We still we don't hear the journalist's question.
Uh?
Acting as in assuming his role as a president, conducting himself exactly as a head of state should, within the boundaries of his authority.
He's doing his job perfectly.
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We still we don't hear the journalist's question.
Acting as in assuming his role as a president, conducting himself exactly as a head of state should, within the boundaries of his authority.
He's doing his job perfectly.
Shalamar
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Freedom of religion: But only for Christianity.
Freedom of Speech: But only if you say what I agree with.
Who is stopping them? We can't even mention the "wisdom" of building it at that location. POTUS Obama found that out the hard way.
The Islamophobes are still trying to fight the denied landmark status.
A Tea-Bagger candidate for Governor wants to seize the site under Emminent Domain.
GOP loser candidate Lazio calls the Immam a "terrorist-supporter" and wants the whole thing investigated.
Clearly, folks are trying to stop this thing not just by appealing to the Cordoba folks, but through govt. action.
A Tea-Bagger candidate for Governor wants to seize the site under Emminent Domain.
GOP loser candidate Lazio calls the Immam a "terrorist-supporter" and wants the whole thing investigated.
Clearly, folks are trying to stop this thing not just by appealing to the Cordoba folks, but through govt. action.
elbe
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Obama was talking out of both sides of his mouth there. He said he wouldn't comment (a good start, it's not an executive issue) on the wisdom of building it (implying that it isn't wise to build it there). Now he could have been playing politics - lipservice to the people who are against it, without sounding islamaphobic, but it just ended up sounding bad.
Not necessarily. He's just acknowledging that some people are questioning the wisdom of the the building's location, because there are. He's not putting any judgement value on the word "wisdom".
And he clearly says "I will not comment".
What was the journalist's question?
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What does "wisdom" have to do with the free market? If there's a market to be found then someone will fill it, if there isn't it will fail. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. The only issues being raised are because they are in a religion america currently has a hate on for - we aren't going to overcome that until we grow the hell up.
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He does, yes. But mentioning the wisdom as he did creates an inferred meaning to many that it is questionable. Maybe it was a slip of the tongue, I say stupid things all the time when my brain gets ahead of my mouth, but he's in a position where he needs to watch what he says or it'll be used against him politically.
Really, it may say nothing about his actual position but it sounds like he questions the wisdom of building it there.
Raheel Raza, a moderate Muslim, is exercising her freedom of speech. Do agree with her opinion?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmmwfqRZYYg&feature=related
Shalamar
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Regardless of what I answer, are you just going to ask another question?
And the reporter asked POTUS Obama "What was your intention...." This is obvious as POTUS Obama's first words out of his mouth are, "My intention was to simply tell people what I thought."
But can you answer whether you agree or disagree with Raheel Raza?
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No. She is ill-informed and not very bright.
I disagree with her on this issue and I disagree with lefty about her being not very bright. I've seen her speak on other issues and she is quite bright and is very involved in interfaith dialogue.
She just happens to be wrong here. I don't know why she thinks this Center is in "bad faith". Nor do I understand why she thinks Rauf -- whom she admits is a very tolerant and moderate Muslim with a solid reputation of speaking out against terrorism -- has sold his soul.
She just happens to be wrong here. I don't know why she thinks this Center is in "bad faith". Nor do I understand why she thinks Rauf -- whom she admits is a very tolerant and moderate Muslim with a solid reputation of speaking out against terrorism -- has sold his soul.
leftysergeant
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She bought the wrongwing radical's blather that it is right up against GZ. She better get her stuff in order before she opens her mouth.
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I have yet to see any of the opponents offer a rational arguement, but I do see some racists getting beligerent. Also, it looks to me as though the numbers of protestors is dismally small compared to the alleged popularity of their cause.
Seems like twoofers can muster these numbers if they know AJ will be in town.
Seems like twoofers can muster these numbers if they know AJ will be in town.
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"Yes we can.... But should we?"
That's actually a very funny comment on Obama's position, and it mirrors his ambiguity brilliantly. Saying that Obama is dubious would be putting it too strongly. Basically, Obama is JAQing in a way that lets lots of people think he agrees with them when he hasn't actually done so.
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I don't agree with her.
I'm surprised you need to ask people on this thread that question, since she doesn't seem to have provided a new opinion. She is merely a new source for an old opinion.