twinstead
Penultimate Amazing
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There's two fat lies, right there. And you have the gall to say he didn't lead Jowenko?
It ain't over 'till the fat lie sings.
Sorry. It had to be said.
There's two fat lies, right there. And you have the gall to say he didn't lead Jowenko?
Jowenko: <indicates 24 core columns on diagram>
Intervwr: This heart? These 12?
Jowenko: "... it was not really clean ..."
Intervwr: "It was very clean ... so clean you can walk around it"
There's two fat lies, right there. And you have the gall to say he didn't lead Jowenko?
W R O N G
Context.
One was a question for clarification.
The other, referring to clean, was showing Danny that a standing wall did not belong to WTC7. That it was an optical illusion.
Apparently it fooled you as well.
MM
Context.
One was a question for clarification.
The other, referring to clean, was showing Danny that a standing wall did not belong to WTC7. That it was an optical illusion.
GlennB said:"Clarifying that there were 12 core columns? Strange definition of "clarification" you have there. Jowenko clearly indicates the entire core column system which the commentator then calls "these 12"."
Miragememories said:"The other, referring to clean, was showing Danny that a standing wall did not belong to WTC7. That it was an optical illusion."
GlennB said:"<commentator pointing away from the disputed wall> "But you can walk around it. So clean you can walk around it" .... "... everywhere you clearly see that only building seven collapsed cleanly with the outside walls going inside"
Hard to tell who is the biggest liar MM, you or that commentator."
In no way was it "Clean". The Verizon Bldg. had serious damage to it, enough so that it was feared that it might collapse if the WTC 7 debris was just pulled away from it without first shoring up the building from the inside.
I notice that you also use an image with a camera angle that minimizes the damage to the roof and SW side of Fitterman Hall (17 stories up) caused by your so called "Clean" collapse.
It's this type of disingenuous representations that distort and outright lie that make you the laughingstocks that you are. You marginalize yourselves and you don't even realize it.
I used the same photo that Danny Jowenko observed.
It would have been disingenuous to have used something else.
Try checking your facts before you make your leaps of faith!
MM
DANNY JOWENKO: "Although I've seen a picture on internet, seen
from above, it was not really clean, at the sides there were walls
13-14 floors high still standing."
INTERVIEWER: "No, it was very clean."
[Interviewer shows Danny a NIST Report photograph of WTC7
heaped ruins]
[qimg]http://a.imageshack.us/img202/7538/wtc7rubble.jpg[/qimg]
INTERVIEWER: "This is the heap. Look, this is what I mean, that's
a lot. [runs his finger up and down the side of the Verizon Building]
But you can walk around it. So clean that you can walk around it."[/i]
DANNY JOWENKO: " But this is still standing, this is what I mean.
You show me exactly the picture that I mean. "
[Danny is indicating the Verizon Building on the west side of the
WTC7 ruins] [on the left in the photograph]
INTERVIEWER: "But this is a different building."
DANNY JOWENKO: "Is that a different building?"
INTERVIEWER: "That is the building next to it."
That was clarifying a misunderstanding.
MM
That about sums up your level of argument.
MM
I have hilited the flat out lies.
[Danny is indicating the Verizon Building on the west side of the WTC7 ruins] [on the left in the photograph]
INTERVIEWER: "But this is a different building."
DANNY JOWENKO: "Is that a different building?"
INTERVIEWER: "That is the building next to it."
That was clarifying a misunderstanding.
Put whatever spin you want on the interviewer's use of "clean".
His main concern was that Danny be corrected in his mistaken belief that the Verizon Building east wall, was the remains of a the west wall of WTC7.
[Danny is indicating the Verizon Building on the west side of the WTC7 ruins] [on the left in the photograph]
INTERVIEWER: "But this is a different building."
DANNY JOWENKO: "Is that a different building?"
INTERVIEWER: "That is the building next to it."
That was clarifying a misunderstanding.
Put whatever spin you want on the interviewer's use of "clean".
His main concern was that Danny be corrected in his mistaken belief that the Verizon Building east wall,
was the remains of a the west wall of WTC7.
MM
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Put whatever spin you want on the interviewer's use of "clean".
His main concern was that Danny be corrected in his mistaken belief that the Verizon Building east wall,
was the remains of a the west wall of WTC7.
MM
INTERVIEWER: ... But you can walk around it. So clean that you can walk around it
False. The interviewer says "No, it was very clean" before the identity of the wall is raised.
Additionally, the disputed wall was not the Verizon building (mis-translated as 'Four-zone') at all, but the US Post Office building, to the left of the photo and to the E of the site. The photo was taken from the N. We can clearly see Fitterman Hall to the left (in the photo) of the Irving Trust building.
Perhaps the interviewer was just plain ignorant, what with 12 core columns and getting buildings' identities entirely wrong. Plus not knowing debris was slammed onto the Verizon and Fitterman Hall making 'walking around it' out of the question.
D'uh![]()