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The Laverty PGF track photos.

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Okay, we have these photos taken by Lyle Laverty the day after Patty walked in front of Roger and Bob.

Here is a sample of those photos, although I can't remember where it's from.

It just occurred to me that the left 2 pics are actually of the same track, taken at different times of day. We can see a long shadow on one, and little shadow on the other. There are shadows in both, though.

I suppose it's possible that Laverty used a flash on the one and not the other, but it really doesn't look like it.

The vertically oriented shot appears to show casting remains. Some whitish material near the top of the shot and around the edges.

The track appears to be quite old to me. It doesn't look like it was made just the day before with the broken up soil in the middle of it. it doesn't look like Patty just made the track the day before at all.

Also, it looks to me like the toe area is much better defined in the vertical shot than the horizontal shot. The toe area looks well worn in the horizontal shot to me.

It's pretty obvious that the tracks are one and the same, yet there are interesting differences in the photos.

The toes are also completely different than the right track photo, imo.

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LTC8K6 said:
The vertically oriented shot appears to show casting remains. Some whitish material near the top of the shot and around the edges.
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If that is old plaster residue then my theory is supported. Weeks before Oct. 20th Patterson filmed BH, then did some work on the trackway and made some plaster casts. Then on (or just before) Oct. 20th he goes back and does more work on the trackway in preparation for the announcement and inevitable public viewing at the sandbar. This particular image may show a fake track placed on top of a previous fake track (that was cast).

These Laverty images were supposed to be taken in color.
 
When P&G say the tracks were so many inches deep could they be talking about just the big toe and the heel, or do they mean the entire track was that deep?
 
Okay, I have cleared up the big shadow problem. In a clearer version of the pic, oriented as though it's a left foot, I can see that the shadow is a pipe, placed there for scale.

However we still have longer shadows in one than the other.

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William Parcher said:
If that is old plaster residue then my theory is supported. Weeks before Oct. 20th Patterson filmed BH, then did some work on the trackway and made some plaster casts. Then on (or just before) Oct. 20th he goes back and does more work on the trackway in preparation for the announcement and inevitable public viewing at the sandbar. This particular image may show a fake track placed on top of a previous fake track (that was cast).

These Laverty images were supposed to be taken in color.
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Explain how this supports your theory. How does it show that they made the tracks weeks before. I am not following
 
The faint white runoff surrounding the track is 2-week old plaster residue that has been rained on multiple times.
 
How can you tell how old the plaster is? Didn't it rain the night after the alleged filming?
 
The white stain appears on the outside of the track, not the interior. A new track punched into the same location as an older casted one.
 
William Parcher said:
The white stain appears on the outside of the track, not the interior. A new track punched into the same location as an older casted one.
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I was thinking the plaster in the track filled with water, and ran over the edge and left the plaster residue as it dried.
 
Drewbot said:
I was thinking the plaster in the track filled with water, and ran over the edge and left the plaster residue as it dried.
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But there's no way the track was cast by Patterson that evening. All that broken up soil would have been ruined by the casting. It would have been lifted up by the plaster.

We can see that it was when Titmus cast it.

If what we are seeing is casting remains and residue, it's very hard to explain, imo.

I don't know what's going on. It's just that the 2 images look odd to me.
 
That doesn't actually say Laverty confirmed anything to Knights. Knights says he knows it was the 23rd because Meldrum says so in a Bigfoot Times article.

(I now know that Laverty actually photographed the tracks on Monday Oct. 23–the next workday–based on his statement to that effect to Jeff Meldrum, quoted in Bigfoot Times, June/July 2005, p. 4, col. 2.)
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Sorry, I got ahead of myself. Meldrum interviewed Laverty and it was published in Bigfoot Times. Knights did have some exchange with Laverty...

Roger Knights on BFF said:
Laverty failed to respond to two sets of follow-up questions, so (fearing that he shunned contact with Bigfooters) I handed them over to Michael Dennett and sic'd him on Lyle. He tracked down Lyle's phone number and interviewed him by phone, and then mailed him a typed-up, numbered transcript of their interview and asked him to initial each item to indicate his agreement. Laverty did so. Michael then sent copies to me and Dan Perez, but asked me not to post the material except in response to questions such as yours. (He's now sent a second set of questions to Lyle's old address in Denver, which hopefully will follow him to DC.)

Unfortunately I haven't been able to put my hand on it, although I know it'll turn up in one of my loose piles the next time I refile everything. But from memory I can tell you that there were four people in his crew (this may have been something he told Dennett orally only, though), and that he and his crew read about Patterson's filming over the weekend and made the decision to go looking for them on Monday. (The next work-day.)

He stated in response to one of the follow-up questions that he and his crew had gone up and down Bluff Creek regularly that summer. (IOW, if the tracks had been laid down weeks before the filming, as BH alleged, it's unlikely they'd have been missed multiple times.)
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You really have to wonder how Laverty and crew didn't run into Roger and Bob.

Also, you have to wonder if Laverty saw the tracks that supposedly drew Roger to the area? Three set of tracks according to Roger. The ones that Bob said were ruined when they found them. These tracks were widely reported as well.
 
Those tracks were on the logging road. Patty's tracks were on a sandbar way off to the side of the road. They were probably not visible if you just glanced out the side of the crew truck. Laverty may have driven past the sandbar multiple times and never saw the tracks way out there in the distance. It looks like the creek berm might hide the whole scene unless you happen to actually walk right up to it.

These are among other questions I want KKZ to ask Laverty.
 
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