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Holocaust deniers, explain this.

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kageki said:
I don't find your questions to be relevant. That's why I didn't answer them on a point by point basis.

What's even the point you are making now? Just that the Germans committed crimes like virtually anyone during war?

I believe Hitler makes it clear his actions are a response whether right or wrong if you are implying that Hitler just wanted to exterminate all Jews spontaneously for no reason. I don't really see it any different from two countries fighting each other. Jews didn't have a country to make such actions. Well until they made Israel. Hitler's policies were similar to tsarist Russia and for similar reasons.
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◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ wanted to exterminate Jews because he hated them.Nothing spontaneous about it.
 
kageki said:
http://ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/Horrors.jpg

Only the title "unspeakable horrors" makes an assertion that this was a result of malicious intent. It is an unsubstantiated assertion as far as I am concerned. Otherwise it seems to make an accurate description by stating, "disease-ridden captives".

http://ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/Horrors 2.jpg

The title again makes an unsubstantiated claim. It merely states "had been without water" and not witheld intentionally. The British POWs seem rather lively.

Nowhere in either of these pictures contain the word "Jew". Captives, political prisoners, POWS. Not once Jew or Jewish was used.

I can only conclude, based on these pictures, that there did seem to be a large typhus epidemic that hit these camps. Any claims of malicious intent on behalf of the Nazis are unsubstantiated with at most only an editorial opinion to suggest it.
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There is only one possible response to that.Bollocks.Go and polish your jackboots.
 
Gawdzilla said:
"La-la-la-la-la" as expected.

Too many fails, how do you guys even breathe?
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"The idiot wind,it's a wonder that you still know how to breathe....'' Robert Zimmerman.Just one of the wonderful Jewish people.
 
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Gawdzilla said:
It's convenient when they finally drop the facade on impartiality and declare themselves openly to be a denier. The prior lies just look that much more transparent.
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I wonder why kagegi hates Jews? They are very coy about giving their real reason for denying an obvious historical fact.
 
Gawdzilla said:
I didn't say it was the only reason people died, just that the Nasties didn't worry about it when it broke out.
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As usual from Gawdzilla, complete idiocy. The whole purpose of the fumigation rooms, the showers, the haircuts, was to prevent typhus. The Nazis devoted major resources to disease prevention from the start, as can be tracked by the records of Zyklon deliveries to the camps. The fumigation rooms still exist, a whole building of them at Auschwitz. They of course are not part of the visitors tour. The Zionists have perverted these disease prevention measures into a phantasmagoria of mass annihilation.
 
Saggy said:
As usual from Gawdzilla, complete idiocy. The whole purpose of the fumigation rooms, the showers, the haircuts, was to prevent typhus. The Nazis devoted major resources to disease prevention from the start, as can be tracked by the records of Zyklon deliveries to the camps. The fumigation rooms still exist, a whole building of them at Auschwitz. They of course are not part of the visitors tour. The Zionists have perverted these disease prevention measures into a phantasmagoria of mass annihilation.
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More bollocks.Do you have an endless supply?
 
saggy said:
as usual from gawdzilla, complete idiocy. The whole purpose of the fumigation rooms, the showers, the haircuts, was to prevent typhus. The nazis devoted major resources to disease prevention from the start, as can be tracked by the records of zyklon deliveries to the camps. The fumigation rooms still exist, a whole building of them at auschwitz. They of course are not part of the visitors tour. The zionists have perverted these disease prevention measures into a phantasmagoria of mass annihilation.
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Why were they in the camps in the first place? Stop being a coward and answer that question,and why do you hate Jews.What have they ever done to you?
 
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Saggy said:
As usual from Gawdzilla, complete idiocy. The whole purpose of the fumigation rooms, the showers, the haircuts, was to prevent typhus. The Nazis devoted major resources to disease prevention from the start, as can be tracked by the records of Zyklon deliveries to the camps. The fumigation rooms still exist, a whole building of them at Auschwitz. They of course are not part of the visitors tour. The Zionists have perverted these disease prevention measures into a phantasmagoria of mass annihilation.
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Making up stuff is not evidence, Soggy.
 
Saggy said:
As usual from Gawdzilla, complete idiocy. The whole purpose of the fumigation rooms, the showers, the haircuts, was to prevent typhus. The Nazis devoted major resources to disease prevention from the start, as can be tracked by the records of Zyklon deliveries to the camps. The fumigation rooms still exist, a whole building of them at Auschwitz. They of course are not part of the visitors tour. The Zionists have perverted these disease prevention measures into a phantasmagoria of mass annihilation.
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I have this plot of land that needs fertilization. Can't you come over? It seems you have an endless supply of cheap manure.
 
Oystein said:
Maybe true for some of the camps some of the time.
But still, typhus is no explanation, as far as I can see, for the images in the OP. Typhus does not turn people turn into near-skeletons before they die, for example.
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The problem was probably exacerbated by a combination of factors.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/~jamie/policy-of-starvation.shtml

Under these circumstances you probably will not be surprised that the saying now has become true: Before the German people are to experience starvation, the occupied territories and their people shall be exposed to starvation.
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I can conclude that had there not been an issue with the food situation that those prisoners would not have been starving. Had there not been a typhus epidemic in addition then it is most likely you would not have seen such casualties.

While it was certain the Nazis hated the Jews, I don't come to the conclusion that genocide was the intent. They did view their contribution in labor to be valuable. Much of the rhetoric can be viewed as conquering as essentially any country aims to do in war.
 
kageki said:
I can conclude that had there not been an issue with the food situation that those prisoners would not have been starving.
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What issue with the food situation then? The Weimar citizens were well-fed; the Buchenwald inmates starving. The Munich citizens were well-fed; the Dachau inmates starving. The Hamburg citizens were well-fed, the Neuengamme inmates starving. Need I go on?
 
MaGZ said:
So how many Jews did this one gas chamber supposedly kill?
What are the most recent estimates and have they been different in the past?
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I've got a question for you.

Have you noticed when you WANT to believe something is true (such as missiles at Ground Zero), then the merest suggestion that it MIGHT be true is enough to convince you, whereas if you want to believe something is NOT true(such as genocide by your heroes, the Nazis), then the standards of evidence are impossibly high?

You know, in real life, wanting to believe or disbelieve has very little effect on whether something is true or not.
 
Gawdzilla said:
Didn't have much luck with specific persons, so I'm throwing it open. Can any of you Holocaust deniers explain this?

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Unspeakable Horrors of Nazi Prison Camps.
From: The War Illustrated, volume 9, number 206, page 2, published May 11, 1945.

Starvation and Torture Behind Barbed Wire.
From The War Illustrated, volume 9, No. 207, pg. 50, published May 25, 1945.

And some footage for those brave enough to watch it.

Nazi Death Camps.
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The one photo is a montage from Allied liberation of Buchenwald and the other is from Belsen.

Both sites are fairly marginal to the Holocaust narrative that took place primarily at Auschwitz, Chelmno, Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec.

Recently research that two buildings normally referred to as gas chambers at Auschwitz were bakeries and the other two buildings were a weaving mill that largely produced fuses.

Treblinka has been demonstrated to contain no mass earth movements consistent with 800 000 bodies being buried there. Archaeological investigations at Sobibor have been similarly unsuccessful.

In light of this, any discussion as to how much Allied propaganda at Belsen and Buchenwald was based on reality and how much was simply propaganda is really beside the point.
 
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