Who started both World Wars?

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I'm still a little confused about why the Jews -- whose cultural work-ethic allows them to make out like bandits in the capitalist system -- would want to destroy that system by establishing a regime that does away with individual wealth and divides all the resources equally among the people.

Every society has a pyramidal power structure. The genius of the Jews is that they come up with a program, suitable for that society at a given point in time, that will ensure them a position at the top of that power structure. The content of that program is irrelevant, in one society they promote Bolshevism (Russia), capitalism and neoconservatism in another (USA) and Turkish nationalism in yet another (Turkey). Obviously the intelligence level of the host society will determine how high they will get in that society. That's why they rule(d) the US, the UK and Russia and were kicked out from Germany (initially). The IQ-level in the US, UK and Russia is below 100, that of Germany 108. Jews operate at 115. You will get my point.

The Jews could use the relatively dummer people of the UK and US to destroy the core/pinacle of the white race, Germany. Now every white person, either in Europe and America, is in deep s*** because of this state of affairs. These poor British veterans will never understand by what truck they were hit. The multicultural desaster that befell the British Isles would never have happened under Hitler (or a British variant of him). Under present conditions and trends Britain is finished as a British society and will descend into chaos, civil war and genocide. It will become one big Iraq, Yugoslavia, Ruanda. Rivers of blood.

Oh, and can you name some of the Jews who led the coup d'état, and if so, explain why it is relevant that they were Jewish?

I gave you the IHR links.
 
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Do you think that by constantly repeating the above falsehood it'll somehow become true? It was false before and it's still false. Not only does the claim fail on facts, it fails on logic too.

He responded to me with a quick-and-sloppy google list of nutbags with the same delusion. Doesn't seem to care for my reply, however.
 
He responded to me with a quick-and-sloppy google list of nutbags with the same delusion. Doesn't seem to care for my reply, however.

You really think I am going to read 20,000 pages from 1946, written by the party that committed the treacherous act itself?

Get real.
 
As is the North of England. We were a Viking Kingdom you know, up until 1066 when Harold defeated the Vikings at the Battle of Stamford bridge. We were later colonised by the Normans. they get their name becuase they are also Norsemen.

So I would think Norway would feel more affinity with England then germany.

Scotland surely? The king of Scotland used to be the king of Norway too,and vice versa.
 
You really think I am going to read 20,000 pages from 1946, written by the party that committed the treacherous act itself?

Get real.

Thanks, I thought you'd fall for that. The material I listed is largely from 1941, original documents related to the events leading up to the attack. The bulk of the remainder is testimony before Congress during their investigation of the attack. And if you think testifying before Congress is a walk in the park, remember that the Republicans wanted to hang the blame on FDR as badly as you did (though without the obvious psychiatric issues.)

You just proved you are pathetic at even exploring a link, leave alone learning from the information provided. AGAIN.
 
Every society has a pyramidal power structure. The genius of the Jews is that they come up with a program, suitable for that society at a given point in time, that will ensure them a position at the top of that power structure.

I really hate to keep harping on this, but can you define what you mean when you say "the Jews"? All Jews, everywhere? A Jewish cabal? A few individuals who happen to be Jewish?

The content of that program is irrelevant, in one society they promote Bolshevism (Russia), capitalism and neoconservatism in another (USA) and Turkish nationalism in yet another (Turkey).

Evidence?

Obviously the intelligence level of the host society will determine how high they will get in that society. That's why they rule(d) the US, the UK and Russia and were kicked out from Germany (initially). The IQ-level in the US, UK and Russia is below 100, that of Germany 108. Jews operate at 115. You will get my point.

That isn't obvious to me at all. People who are smart enough to run things are too smart to get mixed up in politics.

The Jews could use the relatively dummer people of the UK and US to destroy the core/pinacle of the white race, Germany. Now every white person, either in Europe and America, is in deep s*** because of this state of affairs.

I'm white. I'm a person. I'm in America. I'm doing fine.

These poor British veterans will never understand by what truck they were hit. The multicultural desaster that befell the British Isles would never have happened under Hitler (or a British variant of him). Under present conditions and trends Britain is finished as a British society and will descend into chaos, civil war and genocide. It will become one big Iraq, Yugoslavia, Ruanda.

It will become three completely dissimilar nations?
 
Every society has a pyramidal power structure. The genius of the Jews is that they come up with a program, suitable for that society at a given point in time, that will ensure them a position at the top of that power structure. The content of that program is irrelevant, in one society they promote Bolshevism (Russia), capitalism and neoconservatism in another (USA) and Turkish nationalism in yet another (Turkey).

Kemal Ataturk was Jewish?!
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...Rivers of Blood link...

Considering the UK (and London in particular, as a microcosm if you like) has been a cultural melting pot for over 2 centuries, and Enoch was predicting this disaster in the 60s and we still haven't had it, forgive me in...well...not believing a word of it.
 
- The Jews were responsible for the US entry of WW1, leading to the defeat of Germany; the sinking of the Lusitania/Zimmermann telegram were merely a pretext, Balfour/Palestine was the real reason for US war entry.

Name the Jews responsible, or admit you're making it up.

- The Versailles Treaty was a 'Carthaginian Peace' instigated mainly by France and provoked the rise of a Hitler, just as Lloyd George predicted.

Well, duh.

- WW2 as 'The Good War' is a myth invented by the victors of that war. The holocaust needs an urgent review just to make sure that it was not an invention of the Allies to make themselves look good and to draw the attention away from the many crimes the Allies committed themselves.

If you apply the same standards of evidence to the holocaust as you do to your "evil Jewish puppet-masters" fantasy, I think you'll find that the reality of the holocaust has been pretty well established.

Historians from every nation, including the former Allies, show no aversion to revealing horrendous moral lapses made by the Allies during the war. If you want to learn about these lapses, then open a history book. It's right there for everyone to see.

Do you know what the good thing about that is? You tend not to repeat history. After the 9/11 attacks, when there was a strong anti-Muslim sentiment percolating just beneath the surface of American society, we were all reminded of our despicable treatment of Japanese-Americans after Pearl Harbor. Reprisal against Muslims was, except for the actions of a few nutjobs, nipped in the bud.

- Britain blundered it's way into the war by giving a war garantee to the Poles. It lost it’s empire as a consequence. Nobody wanted that, not even Berlin. Britain could have ruled the world (as in ’being the dominant force’) together with Germany, instead the British decided to commit suicide and hand over the world to the extra-European powers USA and USSR without any necessity.

What's so great about ruling the world? It's more trouble than it's worth.

- Intensive negotiations were going on between Berlin and London using the Swede Dahlerus as a mediator in August 1939 to prevent an outbreak of war, clearly showing that the invasion of Poland was not a done deal for the Germans. They wanted Danzig back, a corridor and protection for the German minority and that was it.

They why did the Germans find it necessary to deceive Dahlerus?

- One week before the invasion in Poland, Roosevelt knew about the secret annex to the Molotov-Ribbentrop accord and the very real possibility of the immanent division of Poland between Russia and Germany. He did nothing to inform and hence moderate the Poles. Roosevelt and his Jewish clique saw their chance to destroy the core of Europe that had managed to dethrone the Jews by helping (not preventing) a war in Europe.

Define "the Jews", please.

- On October 6, 1939, Hitler again offered peace in all directions. Versailles Poland was gone, but the restauration of an ethnic rump Poland was still in the cards.

You're right...Poland was just...gone. It wasn't anyone's fault. It just happened. Yeah, that's the ticket.

- Hitler never sought war with western Europe, it was forced upon him by the actions of Churchill, March 1940, by preparing for an invasion of Norway.

Sounds like Germany should have stayed the hell out of Poland.

- Britain started the bombing of civilian targets in Germany as soon as Churchill became PM; the so-called 'Blitz' constituted not more than 5% of what the Allies dropped on Germany.

Sounds like Germany should have stayed the hell out of Poland.

By the way...the "Blitz" was a stupid strategy that showed how Hitler let his emotions get the better of him. While the Germans were dropping bombs on women, children, and old men, it gave the RAF the crucial break they needed to come back from the edge of defeat.

- The flight by Rudolf Hess to Britain was a last and desperate attempt by Germany to establish a peace and alliance with Britain. Hess was murdered in Spandau by British agents to prevent that Hess would be able to tell this to the world upon his immanent release as proposed by Gorbachov. Typical British perfidy in action.

If you think you know why Hess went to Britain, then you are seriously deluded. NO ONE knows why he did it. It made absolutely no sense from any reasonable point of view.

- Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbor was about to happen but let it happen anyway.

Wrong. The US wasn't even focused on Japan. Roosevelt and the military had a "Germany First" policy in place. If they wanted a "false flag" to give them a pretext to enter the war, then it would have involved Germany, not Japan. Germany might not have been involved -- at least, not right away -- if Hitler hadn't stupidly declared war.

- WW2 was in the deepest sense a war about who should control European Civilization; Jews won, Europeans lost.

Really...? Then why did so many of them have to leave Europe and go to either Palestine or refugee camps?

(Not to mention this question: If the Jews controlled Britain, then how and why did the British try to stop them from immigrating to Palestine?)

Yet to be investigated: Barbarossa (probably another Allied lie). Possibility that that war was also forced upon Hitler (Icebreaker theory).

Right. Hitler was FORCED to attack a completely ineffectual army that was ordered to stand down by Stalin in order to prevent even the perception that they were provoking the Germans. He was FORCED to blockade Leningrad for 900 days, resulting in the starvation of up to a million civilians...a MUCH greater disaster than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined, and on a target with virtually no military significance.

He was FORCED to occupy lands whose people saw the Wehrmacht as liberators from Stalin, only to begin a campaign of terror against the very people who could have been invaluable in the fight against Russia.

I get it.
 
Almost there. What remains to be investigated is why Hitler invaded Russia and what exactly happened around Pearl Harbor. Then you're rid of me as far as this thread is concerned.

He was an evil bastard.

The Japanese attacked.

Thread over.

Every society has a pyramidal power structure. The genius of the Jews is that they come up with a program, suitable for that society at a given point in time, that will ensure them a position at the top of that power structure.

Maybe they deserve to rule, then, if they're so smart.
 
the so-called 'Blitz' constituted not more than 5% of what the Allies dropped on Germany.


I have already explained why that is so; need I do it again? Moreover, so what? What is the point of you quoting this 5% statistic?


By the way...the "Blitz" was a stupid strategy that showed how Hitler let his emotions get the better of him. While the Germans were dropping bombs on women, children, and old men, it gave the RAF the crucial break they needed to come back from the edge of defeat.


In regards to the bolded, sorry, but the RAF was never close to defeat during the Battle of Britain. It's a popular myth that it was on the verge of collapse when the Luftwaffe shifted from airfield attacks to hitting London, but it isn't true. While certainly Fighter Command faced some issues at various times, notably a shortage of pilots (which in reality has as much to do with administrative inefficiency as combat losses), it was never on the edge of defeat. Indeed, Fighter Command emerged from the Battle stronger than it had entered it, in spite of the losses it endured.

Most analysis these days shows the Luftwaffe actually stood relatively little chance of ever winning the Battle given the limitations of the aircraft it possessed and the tactics and strategies it chose to pursue.
 
Most analysis these days shows the Luftwaffe actually stood relatively little chance of ever winning the Battle given the limitations of the aircraft it possessed and the tactics and strategies it chose to pursue.

I stand corrected. That'll teach me to get my facts from the History Channel.
 
One of the advantages was fighting over home soil. If a pilot was shot down he could sometimes be backk in the air again the same day. If a German pilot was shot down he usualy became a prisoner.
Some of the airfileds in the South East did get a pasting and pulling back to more northerly fields was considered. Some of the Radar stations were bombed but only one was put out of action, the gap in its coverage was plugged by a Mobile unit until it was up and running again.
Radar Pages Good description and history of RAF Radar.
 
Kemal Ataturk was Jewish?!
:jaw-dropp



Considering the UK (and London in particular, as a microcosm if you like) has been a cultural melting pot for over 2 centuries, and Enoch was predicting this disaster in the 60s and we still haven't had it, forgive me in...well...not believing a word of it.

The theory that the Young Turks were Jews is old,old,old. It was created circa 1913 by a attache at the British embassy in Constantinople who was a violent Anti Semite and saw Jewish conspiracies everywhere. Sadly, he was beleived by a great many people at the British Foreign Office, and might have had a role in the break between Britain and Turkey in 1914.
 
Question for 9/11: Why, if Hitler didn't want to invade the West, did Gen. Halder think he was crazy for ordering the Heer to get ready for this in SUMMER 1939? (BS about "just in case" can be inserted here, btw, but only if you have Halder's (and the other German generals who felt the same way) words available to support that.
 
The theory that the Young Turks were Jews is old,old,old. It was created circa 1913 by a attache at the British embassy in Constantinople who was a violent Anti Semite and saw Jewish conspiracies everywhere. Sadly, he was beleived by a great many people at the British Foreign Office, and might have had a role in the break between Britain and Turkey in 1914.

'a attachee'... names please?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2176239/Crypto-Jews-The-Young-Turks-Who-Were-They-2

The Jewish Component

The Donmè ("convert" in Turkish), was a Hebrew heresy whose followers converted [?] to Islam in the 18th century. They were most heavily concentrated in Thessaloniki. According to the Great Hellenic Encyclopedia[Megali Elliniki Enkiklopethia]: "It is generally accepted that the Donmè secretly continue to adhere to the Hebrew religion and don't allow their kind to intermarry with the Muslims."

The disproportionate power and influence (in light of their number) that theDonmè had on both the Ottoman Empire and on the Young Turk movement has been the subject of a great deal of commentary by many observers and researchers. The eminent British historian, R. Seton Watson, in his book, The Rise of Nationality in the Balkans. London, 1917 (H Gennisi tou Ethnikismou sta Valkania), wrote the following: "The real brains behind the [Itihàt] movement were Jews or Islamic-Jews. The wealthy Donmè and Jews of Thessaloniki supported [the Young Turks] economically, and their fellow Jewish capitalists in Vienna and Berlin -- as well as in Budapest and possibly Paris and London -- supported them financially as well.

Any revolutionary situation is an opportunity for the Jews to catapult themselves into positions of power. Likewise the Kemalistic revolution.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/Overthrow-of-Ottoman.html

Of course, Ataturk himself was born in Salonica and was from a Donme(h) family of Jews. His embracing of Freemasonry occurred in 1909 and even the wikipedia acknowledges under its “list of Freemasons” that Ataturk was a member of the Rissorta Lodge (Number 80) of Salonica.

Again the Armenians were the only serious competitors to take over the dying Ottoman empire. These 'Young Turks' (compare with Bolshevists in Russia or Neocons in the US, as you remember those that organized 9/11) organized a little genocide (just like 'they' did with the Ukrainian during the Holomodor) against these competitors and Turkey is the only 'Islamic' friend Israel ever had. Not really a coincidence.
 
Question for 9/11: Why, if Hitler didn't want to invade the West, did Gen. Halder think he was crazy for ordering the Heer to get ready for this in SUMMER 1939? (BS about "just in case" can be inserted here, btw, but only if you have Halder's (and the other German generals who felt the same way) words available to support that.

Don't know about Halder, but Hitler was determined to get Danzig back with whatever means. We have already seen that Hitler went almost beserk during the last days of the Dahlerus mediation when he saw happenening what he feared that would happen all along: that no agreement with Britain would be achieved and that war with Britain was possible on the very day that he would invade Poland. And that indeed happened, albeit Britain waited for 7-8 months to start a real invasion (in Norway). And Germany was prepared for that eventuality, as the events have shown. The key consideration here was not to let a British expedition army enter mainland Europe. That had been the beginning of the end of Germany during WW1.

P.S. currently working on Pearl Harbor
 
Don't know about Halder, but Hitler was determined to get Danzig back with whatever means. We have already seen that Hitler went almost beserk during the last days of the Dahlerus mediation when he saw happenening what he feared that would happen all along: that no agreement with Britain would be achieved and that war with Britain was possible on the very day that he would invade Poland. And that indeed happened, albeit Britain waited for 7-8 months to start a real invasion (in Norway). And Germany was prepared for that eventuality, as the events have shown. The key consideration here was not to let a British expedition army enter mainland Europe. That had been the beginning of the end of Germany during WW1.
Diversions don't count as answers.
P.S. currently working on Pearl Harbor
Good luck, I started my research in 1964.
 
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