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Victims' Family Members,

Titanic's post is as good a recent example as any of the emotion-based exploitation of your losses by those who support the common storyline of 9/11. There are many who completely forget that it was you, Victims Family Members, who were instrumental in calling for a 9/11 investigation when it became apparent that no such investigation was taking place.

Posts like that of Titanic seek to fill in the void created by the absence of a proper investigation by using your losses as a way of placing all emphasis upon emotional concerns, such that we are then consumed by sympathy and therefore unable to say: Wat a minute or Time out let alone I have a few questions I'd like to ask.

All such inquiries are effectively forestalled, stopped, halted and otherwise prevented as soon as these debunker posters go off on their emotion-proganda ploys like the one Compus is currently treating us to.

But, back to Titanic, let us here see for ourselves just how blatant the emotional propaganda ploy really is. Shall we? Let's begin:


Many of the family members still in mourning for their murdered loved ones saw them off at the airport.

Note that to the extent the above claim might have some forensic value, it is neither sourced nor demonstrated. It is simply claimed. Here we are what, 40% through Compus' victims eulogy ploy and there is no indication at all, after reporting on nearly 1/3 of the passengers what their movements or whereabouts were on 9/11.

It is useless to point out that Titanic hasn't proven his claim. Titanic "believes" it and, as we know, the common storyline of 9/11 is, indeed, a matter of faith and of belief. No investigation was ever done or needed as far as the faith-based community is concerned.

That is why their proofs tend to start out with claims like:

"...family members still in mourning..."

It would have been more honest for Titanic to say what was really being accomplished by use of emotionally tugging language like that. Here's the real message:

Do not question the fact that there has not ever been a proper investigation of what happened on 9/11. Instead, feel sorry for the victims.

Titanic then continues down the path inititated by the "mourning" appeal:

Their loved ones have not been seen alive since 9/11. Tell me Truther- where did they go?

That is rich. Here we have someone who is doing all that is possible to deflect attention from the fact there has been no investigation, no proper forensic evaluation of what happened on 9/11 now asking the question of what happened?

The fact is, we do not know what happened because the event has not ever been investigated. Instead, the actual available information confirms 9/11 was a vicious shock&awe psyop that simulated plane hijacking and used pyrotechnics and high energy weaponry in the onslaught, coupled with an appeal to American xenophobia and Islamophobia.

Titanic, your use of rhetoric would be transparent in most contexts. You have not got the least bit of interest in determining what actually happened on 9/11 and your seeming question is just that: an illusionary inquiry; mere rhetoric.

You do not appear in your posting to ever call for an investigation of 9/11 or to even try to point to one that was valid. Instead, and at most, you rely on stupid debunker websites and newspaper accounts, like those being relied on by Compus, to try to support the common storyline of 9/11

Many of those mourning familes recieved body parts of their murdered loved ones that were found at the crash sites. Where did those body parts come from?

Now Titanic has upped the emotional ante to the level of "body parts." It doesn't get more emotional than that, does it?

Yet, there is not one single source, link or confirmation of the claim.

Here's the fact: There is no valid, legitimate, reliable or admissible evidence of the body parts claim made by Titanic and I here and now assert that Titanic either will not try to prove otherwise or will fail if Titanic or some other debunker poster here even tries to do it.

Let's try this on to see if it can give a rise to the emotions on the NO PLANER side of the emotional ledger:

The claim of "body parts" or, putting it more politely, the DNA claims put forth by debunkers are false constructs supported, to the extent they are, by propaganda ploys. Such claims exploit victims family members, pure and simple.

There, debunkers, take that and I here assert you will either not try to prove me wrong; or, if you do you will fail.

When you fail, I will then assert that you need to retract your body parts claims and apologize to victims family members for engaging in ploys of that nature.

Clear?

Why do you care nothing for the people who were murdered, and why do you care even less for the mourning families?

P R O P A G A N D A writ large. Shame on you.

What proof do you have that the passenger lists were fictional? That would mean the airlines were in on your imaginary conspiracy...
Prove it.

I have proven there exist no authenticated passenger lists. As to what it would mean as to who or what was "in on" what, that does not actually follow. I have already shown that "top secrecy" and "compartmented" information could render almost everyone out of the loop.

I'm sure there are many who have qualms and who want to be able to say "wait a minute" or "time out" or "I have a few questions" but the urge to go along in order to get along is too strong and the psyop of 9/11 too firmly implanted to allow that to happen, just yet.

Further, if you take a look at the actions of the airlines, it is clear they do not endorse the common storyline of 9/11; rather they merely, you guessed it, go along and get along.

This assertion has been proven by the following means:

1--No insurance payouts.
2--Governmental slush fund for airlines (hush money).
3--No authenicated passenger lists.
4--No actual statement of plane crashes.

I have elsewhere confirmed all of the above with the proper links and sources.

I can imagine that there are those who didn't see the links and sources when they were first posted; and, I might be willing to post them all again. However, I am going to here first point out that the post to which this replies contained not one single solitary link or source for any claim it made.

As such, this rebuttal is perfectly consonant with the post to which it replies.

You post your sources and I will then re-post the ones I rely on.
 
The crew and passengers of United Airlines Flight 175

On the morning of September 11 2001, United Airlines Flight 175 was flying to Los Angeles from Boston, and was hijacked by Islamic terrorists. Shortly after taking off it was deliberately flown into the South Tower of the World Trade Centre, New York.

There were no survivors.

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 PASSENGERS

Douglas A. Gowell, 52, was from Methuen, Massachusetts. He left behind his wife, Barbara, a son, Michael and daughter, Jessica.

Douglas worked as Director of New Market Development at Avid Technologies in Tewksbury, MA. David Krall, president and chief executive officer of Avid said, "Words simply cannot describe the grief we feel for Doug's family and all those who were close to him as a professional colleague—and a personal friend. Many of us think of Avid as a second family, and the thought of losing one of our own is extremely difficult. Our thoughts and prayers are with Doug's family and all who knew him well—as well as anyone who may have been affected by this tragedy."

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Two-and-half-year-old Marshall Gowell, grandson of Douglas, plays near the 9/11 memorial in the Garden of Remembrance in the Boston Public Garden. The name of his grandfather, is engraved on the stone.


Source:- HERE HERE HERE

Immutable facts. Unassailable reason.

Compus
 
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Passengers:
Hanson's seated in 19C,D,E 3/51 Ages: 21/2, ____, _____
Avraham, 22G 4/51 Age: 30
Bailey, 6F 5/51 Age: 54
Bavis, 19F 6/51 Age: 31
Berkeley, 6B 7/51 Age: 37
Bolourchi, 15C 8/51 Age: 69
Brandhurst, Gamboa, Gamboa-Brandhurst 8A,B,C 11/51 Ages: 41, 33, 3
Cahill, 6E 12/51 Age: 57
Carstanjen, 20A 13/51 Age: 33
Corcoran, 21G 14/51 Age: 43
Dorothy Alma deAraujo, 17C 15/51 Age: 80
Lisa Frost, 22A 16/51 Age: 22
Lynn Catherine Goodchild, 23F 17/51 Age: 25
Peter Morgan Goodrich, 23B 18/51 Age: 33
Douglas A. Gowell, 22B 19/51 Age: 52


Crew:
Saracini-pilot 1/9 Age: 51
Horrocks-first officer 2/9 Age: 38
Fangman-flight attendant 3/9 Age: 33
Jarret-flight attendant 4/9 Age: 28
King-flight attendant 5/9 Age: 29
Tarrou-flight attendant 6/9 Age: 38
Laborie-flight attendant 7/9 Age 44
Marchand-flight attendant 8/9 Age: 44
Titus-flight attendant 9/9 Age: 28

Average age of crew = 37
 
Average time I want to violat the MA and tell jamm where to go, and what to do with this disgusting vile bull**** he keps posting.

Every single time.

Tell me, did you drink lead based paint as a child?
 
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Passengers:
Hanson's seated in 19C,D,E 3/51 Ages: 21/2, ____, _____
Avraham, 22G 4/51 Age: 30
Bailey, 6F 5/51 Age: 54
Bavis, 19F 6/51 Age: 31
Berkeley, 6B 7/51 Age: 37
Bolourchi, 15C 8/51 Age: 69
Brandhurst, Gamboa, Gamboa-Brandhurst 8A,B,C 11/51 Ages: 41, 33, 3
Cahill, 6E 12/51 Age: 57
Carstanjen, 20A 13/51 Age: 33
Corcoran, 21G 14/51 Age: 43
Dorothy Alma deAraujo, 17C 15/51 Age: 80
Lisa Frost, 22A 16/51 Age: 22
Lynn Catherine Goodchild, 23F 17/51 Age: 25
Peter Morgan Goodrich, 23B 18/51 Age: 33
Douglas A. Gowell, 22B 19/51 Age: 52


Crew:
Saracini-pilot 1/9 Age: 51
Horrocks-first officer 2/9 Age: 38
Fangman-flight attendant 3/9 Age: 33
Jarret-flight attendant 4/9 Age: 28
King-flight attendant 5/9 Age: 29
Tarrou-flight attendant 6/9 Age: 38
Laborie-flight attendant 7/9 Age 44
Marchand-flight attendant 8/9 Age: 44
Titus-flight attendant 9/9 Age: 28

Average age of crew = 37

I don't understand the significance of posting the average age of passengers you don't believe exist.
 
Attention Everyone!

Everyone listen,

Jam just wants all of our attention, like a typical troll it wants to shill at the expense of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Although it's efforts aren't worth a pot to **** in, we have to understand that Jam is suffering from a mental breakdown. Perhaps Jam's a kid whose just passing the time until school starts. How else would it be a persistant little anal fairy? It's a kid, of course! And like ALL kids, it craves attention. The more we pay attention to it the more it'll feed off of us.

I'm calling Jam "it" because it doesn't want to feel any emotions towards the 9/11 Victims, Families & to those who lost their lives on 9/11.
 
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Passengers:
Hanson's seated in 19C,D,E 3/51 Ages: 21/2, ____, _____
Avraham, 22G 4/51 Age: 30
Bailey, 6F 5/51 Age: 54
Bavis, 19F 6/51 Age: 31
Berkeley, 6B 7/51 Age: 37
Bolourchi, 15C 8/51 Age: 69
Brandhurst, Gamboa, Gamboa-Brandhurst 8A,B,C 11/51 Ages: 41, 33, 3
Cahill, 6E 12/51 Age: 57
Carstanjen, 20A 13/51 Age: 33
Corcoran, 21G 14/51 Age: 43
Dorothy Alma deAraujo, 17C 15/51 Age: 80
Lisa Frost, 22A 16/51 Age: 22
Lynn Catherine Goodchild, 23F 17/51 Age: 25
Peter Morgan Goodrich, 23B 18/51 Age: 33
Douglas A. Gowell, 22B 19/51 Age: 52


Crew:
Saracini-pilot 1/9 Age: 51
Horrocks-first officer 2/9 Age: 38
Fangman-flight attendant 3/9 Age: 33
Jarret-flight attendant 4/9 Age: 28
King-flight attendant 5/9 Age: 29
Tarrou-flight attendant 6/9 Age: 38
Laborie-flight attendant 7/9 Age 44
Marchand-flight attendant 8/9 Age: 44
Titus-flight attendant 9/9 Age: 28

Average age of crew = 37

Just like most of the posts presented by Jammonius, this post is utter nonsense. The post doesn’t even touch the outer fringes of the original topic and has no bearing at all on the subject at hand. It does however; debunk most of the claims made by Jammonious.
This is a no-planer presenting the average age of the crew of the no-plane, now that is rich… and reported.
 
Just like most of the posts presented by Jammonius, this post is utter nonsense. The post doesn’t even touch the outer fringes of the original topic and has no bearing at all on the subject at hand. It does however; debunk most of the claims made by Jammonious.
This is a no-planer presenting the average age of the crew of the no-plane, now that is rich… and reported.

Don't ya just love when Jam sticks it's foot in it's mouth each & every time? :D
 
Victims' Family Members,

Titanic's post is as good a recent example as any of the emotion-based exploitation of your losses by those who support the common storyline of 9/11. There are many who completely forget that it was you, Victims Family Members, who were instrumental in calling for a 9/11 investigation when it became apparent that no such investigation was taking place..


I'll say it again- the people who were killed on 9/11 when their planes were deliberatly crashed mean nothing to you. There was an official 9/11 Investigation, but you choose to reject the findings because it doesn't validate your ridiculous 'no-plane' delusion. Have you noticed even most Truthers concider your theory insane?





Posts like that of Titanic seek to fill in the void created by the absence of a proper investigation by using your losses as a way of placing all emphasis upon emotional concerns, such that we are then consumed by sympathy and therefore unable to say: Wat a minute or Time out let alone I have a few questions I'd like to ask..

All such inquiries are effectively forestalled, stopped, halted and otherwise prevented as soon as these debunker posters go off on their emotion-proganda ploys like the one Compus is currently treating us to.

But, back to Titanic, let us here see for ourselves just how blatant the emotional propaganda ploy really is. Shall we? Let's begin:.



Notice the distain Jam has towards those who feel emotion over the 9/11 tragedy. This contempt would obviously extend to the 9/11 families, who had loved ones on the planes.





Note that to the extent the above claim might have some forensic value, it is neither sourced nor demonstrated. It is simply claimed. Here we are what, 40% through Compus' victims eulogy ploy and there is no indication at all, after reporting on nearly 1/3 of the passengers what their movements or whereabouts were on 9/11..



What is wrong with Compus paying homage to some of those who were murdered? He is recognizing they were real people, who had families and were loved, and whose deaths have not been forgotten. Oh yes, you doubt they existed, and even if you thought they did, they still mean nothing to you.



It is useless to point out that Titanic hasn't proven his claim. Titanic "believes" it and, as we know, the common storyline of 9/11 is, indeed, a matter of faith and of belief. No investigation was ever done or needed as far as the faith-based community is concerned..



The facts are known about what happened on 9/11. 19 hijackers crashed 4 jets killing all those on board. It's your delusional no-planer belief that has no evidence. Again, you reject the official 9/11 investigation because it does not validate your crackpot no-planer delusion.






That is why their proofs tend to start out with claims like:

"...family members still in mourning..."

It would have been more honest for Titanic to say what was really being accomplished by use of emotionally tugging language like that. Here's the real message:

Do not question the fact that there has not ever been a proper investigation of what happened on 9/11. Instead, feel sorry for the victims..





Disgusting. More of Jammy's distain for those who were killed and those mourning their deaths.



Titanic then continues down the path inititated by the "mourning" appeal:.




If you ever meet the family of someone who was on one of the planes that was crashed on 9/11 , do you plan to mock them? Will you laugh at their tears? If you do, I hope they will give you a much deserved thrashing.



That is rich. Here we have someone who is doing all that is possible to deflect attention from the fact there has been no investigation, no proper forensic evaluation of what happened on 9/11 now asking the question of what happened?.



Projection much?
How about producing some evidence to back your no-planer delusion?



The fact is, we do not know what happened because the event has not ever been investigated. Instead, the actual available information confirms 9/11 was a vicious shock&awe psyop that simulated plane hijacking and used pyrotechnics and high energy weaponry in the onslaught, coupled with an appeal to American xenophobia and Islamophobia..



You're like a broken record. There has been an official 9/11 investigation- you just choose to reject it. Prove there was a shock & awe psychop.

Prove the planes were simulated.

Prove there were high energy weapons. Sorry Rain man, this isn't Star Trek- Romulan weapondry doesn't exist.

Thanks for at least admitting you are a shamless apologist for radical Islamic terrorism.



Titanic, your use of rhetoric would be transparent in most contexts. You have not got the least bit of interest in determining what actually happened on 9/11 and your seeming question is just that: an illusionary inquiry; mere rhetoric. .



Clearly the truth means nothing to you since you promote a delusional theory that has no basis in reality.



You do not appear in your posting to ever call for an investigation of 9/11 or to even try to point to one that was valid. Instead, and at most, you rely on stupid debunker websites and newspaper accounts, like those being relied on by Compus, to try to support the common storyline of 9/11.



You're repeating yourself again. There was an official 9/11 investigation.





Now Titanic has upped the emotional ante to the level of "body parts." It doesn't get more emotional than that, does it?

Yet, there is not one single source, link or confirmation of the claim. .



More mockery of the dead. Prove the recovered body parts were fake. They were authenticated with dna analysis. In addition, luggage, Ids, credit cards, etc of people on the planes were found at the crash sites. Prove this was not the case.





Here's the fact: There is no valid, legitimate, reliable or admissible evidence of the body parts claim made by Titanic and I here and now assert that Titanic either will not try to prove otherwise or will fail if Titanic or some other debunker poster here even tries to do it..



A lie, based on ignorance and delusion.



Let's try this on to see if it can give a rise to the emotions on the NO PLANER side of the emotional ledger:

The claim of "body parts" or, putting it more politely, the DNA claims put forth by debunkers are false constructs supported, to the extent they are, by propaganda ploys. Such claims exploit victims family members, pure and simple.
There, debunkers, take that and I here assert you will either not try to prove me wrong; or, if you do you will fail..




All you offer are lies and paranoia. Prove the DNA analysis done on the recovered body parts was inconclusive.




hen you fail, I will then assert that you need to retract your body parts claims and apologize to victims family members for engaging in ploys of that nature.

Clear?.



You need to apologize to the families of the 9/11 murder victims, as you have suggested the people on the planes didn't even die, or never even existed, and you mocked the greif of the families and friends of those who were on the planes.




P R O P A G A N D A writ large. Shame on you..




Shame on you. You're disgusting.




I have proven there exist no authenticated passenger lists. As to what it would mean as to who or what was "in on" what, that does not actually follow. I have already shown that "top secrecy" and "compartmented" information could render almost everyone out of the loop..



Another lie.



I'm sure there are many who have qualms and who want to be able to say "wait a minute" or "time out" or "I have a few questions" but the urge to go along in order to get along is too strong and the psyop of 9/11 too firmly implanted to allow that to happen, just yet..



Prove there was a psyop.



Further, if you take a look at the actions of the airlines, it is clear they do not endorse the common storyline of 9/11; rather they merely, you guessed it, go along and get along.
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All you have is tinfoil hat paranoia.





This assertion has been proven by the following means:

1--No insurance payouts.
2--Governmental slush fund for airlines (hush money).
3--No authenicated passenger lists.
4--No actual statement of plane crashes..




Prove it. More lies.




I have elsewhere confirmed all of the above with the proper links and sources..



Your lies do not count as confirmation of anything.




I can imagine that there are those who didn't see the links and sources when they were first posted; and, I might be willing to post them all again. However, I am going to here first point out that the post to which this replies contained not one single solitary link or source for any claim it made..




I see. To prove people died on the flights, you think I need to provide you with a link...
Do I need to provide you with a link to prove that I exist?




As such, this rebuttal is perfectly consonant with the post to which it replies.

You post your sources and I will then re-post the ones I rely on.




Jam, next time try to find some evidence to prove your ridiculous paranoid theories. Your contempt for the families of the 9/11 murder victims, and indifference to those who were killed is just pathetic.

Are you aware of the fact that even within your Truther cult, WTC no-planers such as yourself are seen as nutcases?
Alex Jones, one of the leaders of your Truther cult holds nothing but distain and ridicule for WTC no planers like you.(Not that his Truther theories are any less ridiculous)
 
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Passengers:
Hanson's seated in 19C,D,E 3/51 Ages: 21/2, ____, _____
Avraham, 22G 4/51 Age: 30
Bailey, 6F 5/51 Age: 54
Bavis, 19F 6/51 Age: 31
Berkeley, 6B 7/51 Age: 37
Bolourchi, 15C 8/51 Age: 69
Brandhurst, Gamboa, Gamboa-Brandhurst 8A,B,C 11/51 Ages: 41, 33, 3
Cahill, 6E 12/51 Age: 57
Carstanjen, 20A 13/51 Age: 33
Corcoran, 21G 14/51 Age: 43
Dorothy Alma deAraujo, 17C 15/51 Age: 80
Lisa Frost, 22A 16/51 Age: 22
Lynn Catherine Goodchild, 23F 17/51 Age: 25
Peter Morgan Goodrich, 23B 18/51 Age: 33
Douglas A. Gowell, 22B 19/51 Age: 52


Crew:
Saracini-pilot 1/9 Age: 51
Horrocks-first officer 2/9 Age: 38
Fangman-flight attendant 3/9 Age: 33
Jarret-flight attendant 4/9 Age: 28
King-flight attendant 5/9 Age: 29
Tarrou-flight attendant 6/9 Age: 38
Laborie-flight attendant 7/9 Age 44
Marchand-flight attendant 8/9 Age: 44
Titus-flight attendant 9/9 Age: 28

Average age of crew = 37


And your point being? Are you finally admitting that these people existed, and were murdered on 9/11 , or are you playing some lunatic numerology game with their ages?
 
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Everyone listen,

Jam just wants all of our attention, like a typical troll it wants to shill at the expense of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Although it's efforts aren't worth a pot to **** in, we have to understand that Jam is suffering from a mental breakdown. Perhaps Jam's a kid whose just passing the time until school starts. How else would it be a persistant little anal fairy? It's a kid, of course! And like ALL kids, it craves attention. The more we pay attention to it the more it'll feed off of us.

I'm calling Jam "it" because it doesn't want to feel any emotions towards the 9/11 Victims, Families & to those who lost their lives on 9/11.


I'm not sure Jam is a troll. Trolls tend to be people who are start threads out of boredom (that they know full well are pure BS) just to agitate others.
I think Jam truly holds these fantasies of holograms, space age weapons and mole people as being reality.
There is no doubt he feels *nothing* for those murdered on 9/11.
 
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There is no doubt he feels *nothing* for those murdered on 9/11.

And that is really at the center of this whole discussion.
Emotions are what ultimately motivate people.
Compassion is what makes human societies a good place to live.

jammo is clearly lacking these intimately human characteristics.
 
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Passengers:
Hanson's seated in 19C,D,E 3/51 Ages: 21/2, ____, _____
Avraham, 22G 4/51 Age: 30
Bailey, 6F 5/51 Age: 54
Bavis, 19F 6/51 Age: 31
Berkeley, 6B 7/51 Age: 37
Bolourchi, 15C 8/51 Age: 69
Brandhurst, Gamboa, Gamboa-Brandhurst 8A,B,C 11/51 Ages: 41, 33, 3
Cahill, 6E 12/51 Age: 57
Carstanjen, 20A 13/51 Age: 33
Corcoran, 21G 14/51 Age: 43
Dorothy Alma deAraujo, 17C 15/51 Age: 80
Lisa Frost, 22A 16/51 Age: 22
Lynn Catherine Goodchild, 23F 17/51 Age: 25
Peter Morgan Goodrich, 23B 18/51 Age: 33
Douglas A. Gowell, 22B 19/51 Age: 52


Crew:
Saracini-pilot 1/9 Age: 51
Horrocks-first officer 2/9 Age: 38
Fangman-flight attendant 3/9 Age: 33
Jarret-flight attendant 4/9 Age: 28
King-flight attendant 5/9 Age: 29
Tarrou-flight attendant 6/9 Age: 38
Laborie-flight attendant 7/9 Age 44
Marchand-flight attendant 8/9 Age: 44
Titus-flight attendant 9/9 Age: 28

Average age of crew = 37

proof of no planes on 9/11 - 0
proof of DEW - 0
proof of holograms - 0

average proof Jammonious has posted in his thread regarding all of the above -0

See what you fail to realize Jammy is that YOU need to account for every single one of the passengers, they bought tickets, got rides to the airport from their loved ones said good-bye, and boarded a plane, that in fact was hijacked by terrorists, and used as a weapon and flown into the world trade center, the same was later repeated at the pentagon as well as a thwarted attempt the crash landed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. You have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt you are a moral coward, discounting the violent deaths each and every one of the victims suffered that day. Call it propaganda, call it what you want I could care less, it really does not change the fact that it is true, mountains of evidence prove this, you on the other habd tryb to hand wave the evidence away. Your approach to the witness statements and TRIAL EVIDENCE is childish at best. Rants of hearsay, rhetoric, propaganda, is your only ploy. Take heed, I see you for what you are, a coward. plain and simple. You dodge questions, because they are inconvenient to your load of bullcrap, you might not play gotcha games, or 20 questions, good for you, that in its self show how much of a coward you are.
You spit on the memories of family members, friends, and loved ones. This isn't emotionally driven, its pure unadulterated fact.
 
Your approach to the witness statements and TRIAL EVIDENCE is childish at best. Rants of hearsay, rhetoric, propaganda, is your only ploy. Take heed, I see you for what you are, a coward. plain and simple. You dodge questions, because they are inconvenient to your load of bullcrap, you might not play gotcha games, or 20 questions, good for you, that in its self show how much of a coward you are.
You spit on the memories of family members, friends, and loved ones. This isn't emotionally driven, its pure unadulterated fact.


This sums up all Truthers who are apologists for the terrorists- but the 'no planers' (Be them WTC, Pentagon or Shanksville no planers) are the most heartless bottom feeders of all.
 
At 08:52, Peter Hanson called his father, Lee Hanson in Easton, Connecticut, telling him of the hijacking. The family was originally seated in Row 19, in seats C, D, and E, however Peter placed the call to his father from seat 30E. Hanson was traveling with his wife, Sue, and 2½ year old daughter, Christine. Speaking softly, Hanson said that the hijackers had commandeered the cockpit, that a flight attendant had been stabbed, and possibly someone else in the front of the aircraft had been killed. He also said that the plane was flying erratically. Hanson asked his father to contact United Airlines, but Lee could not get through and instead called the police.

Peter Hanson made a second phone call to his father at 09:00:
It's getting bad, Dad. A stewardess was stabbed. They seem to have knives and Mace. They said they have a bomb. It's getting very bad on the plane. Passengers are throwing up and getting sick. The plane is making jerky movements. I don't think the pilot is flying the plane. I think we are going down. I think they intend to go to Chicago or someplace and fly into a building. Don't worry, Dad. If it happens, it'll be very fast....Oh my God... oh my God, oh my God."
As the call abruptly ended, Hanson's father heard a woman screaming.

Source: Wikipedia
 
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