Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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If nothing else, Bigfoot would probably be the most likely big-time cryptozoological creature to exist. It would surprise scientists but it isn't out of the realm of possibility.. .or at least it is not illogical.
 
Copernic, bigfoot's existence is thoroughly illogical, and is so far outside the realm of possibility as to become astronomically improbable.

The reasons for this are many, and more complex than one might imagine at first blush. A little over a year ago, and for most of my life, I believed or accepted that bigfoot might be real, because on the surface the idea of an undiscovered primate inhabiting the vast stretches of pristine wildernesses of North America does not seem so implausible.

However, on close inspection and extensive examination of the facts, sightings, putative evidence, etc., the idea collapses of its own absurdity. I don't expect you to take my word for it, of course; by all means look into the matter for yourself. What I and many others have found is that a huge (7'-10' tall) bipedal primate which must obtain 8000+ calories a day, in winter, and yet which leaves no verifiable and non-hoaxable trace of itself in the form of scat, hair, blood, mortal remains, fossils, tool use, tracks or other signs of passage, nor any kind of photographic record, and has never been documented, filmed nor even seen by wildlife biologists, park rangers, scientists or biological experts of any kind is so close to impossible that the adjective "impossible" may now be reasonably asserted without the qualifying adverbial phrase "close to".

I think you'll agree once you've sifted through all the data.
 
Copernic said:
If nothing else, Bigfoot would probably be the most likely big-time cryptozoological creature to exist. It would surprise scientists but it isn't out of the realm of possibility.. .or at least it is not illogical.
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It's not out of the realm of possibility (almost nothing is), but it is certainly illogical, improbable, and nearly impossible.

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Darn, Vort beat me to it.
 
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WGBH said:
What Drew mentions here is absolutely on the nose. We need to keep our mouths shut better during a ongoing investigation.
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It's even better to keep the mouth shut after the investigations.
 
tsig said:
It's even better to keep the mouth shut after the investigations.
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:D I'd bet money WGBH would agree with that assertion too.

And since I'm already talkin' about WGBH, I had a humorous realization the other day about his participation in the hunt for Bigfoot. He's the guy on the commercial who's trying to buy a used car and right before signing on the bottom line asks the salesman for the CARFAX™. You know, the vehicle history report that 'proves' (mostly) what has or hasn't happened to the car in the past. The salesman then proceeds to offer him all manner of things that kinda sound or seem like CARFAX™, but don't have anything at all to do with it. I think JC's relationship with Bigfoot Hunting™ has been very similar. The Bigfoot Illuminati™ have offered him plenty of 'hope', 'wait' and maybe even some 'almost', but I'll bet not even a smidgen of 'reality'. Funny, seems that's about all he gets here. ;)
 
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tsig said:
It's even better to keep the mouth shut after the investigations.
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Not really. If the investigation is complete there is no harm in sharing the information with other groups or investigators. You can still keep the witness (if there is one) anonymous. It's the press we have had to worry about lately.
 
Vortigern99 said:
What I and many others have found is that a huge (7'-10' tall) bipedal primate which must obtain 8000+ calories a day, in winter, and yet which leaves no verifiable and non-hoaxable trace of itself in the form of scat, hair, blood, mortal remains, fossils, tool use, tracks or other signs of passage
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Yes, this is the kind of thing that immediately springs to mind. Is this ever addressed by bigfooters? For example, for Nessie, this stuff can be hand-waved away because it all takes place underwater; aliens can hide anything they want because they have advanced (magical) technology (same with witches, fairies, and angels); ghosts are incorporeal and aren't expected to leave traces. But bigfoot is supposed to be real in the context of the same (er, real) reality we live in. There must be traces, but where are they?
 
WGBH said:
Why? There is no Bigfoot, right Harry? :D
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Right! :p


eerok said:
Yes, this is the kind of thing that immediately springs to mind. Is this ever addressed by bigfooters? For example, for Nessie, this stuff can be hand-waved away because it all takes place underwater; aliens can hide anything they want because they have advanced (magical) technology (same with witches, fairies, and angels); ghosts are incorporeal and aren't expected to leave traces. But bigfoot is supposed to be real in the context of the same (er, real) reality we live in. There must be traces, but where are they?
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That's one of the biggest 'no brainer' points the skeptics here argue with proponents about. To quasi-answer your question, in my memory there's never been even one intelligent argument (by a serious Bigfoot proponent) that attempts to answer that vital question.

Even that mental midget Jeff Meldrum has never offered up any serious explanations for the deficiency. He apparently believes Bigfoot is a serious conservationist and abides by the 'take only memories, leave only footprints' code.
 
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Some of them claim that if there is enough food for bears then there is enough for bigfoots. And most of those folks don't understand, or pretend to not understand, the point that the descriptions of bigfoot never include the large stomachs required for an animal that is mainly a vegetarian. And of course some argue that bigfoot isn't a vegetarian but instead runs down deer, breaks their necks, and eats them.

The beauty of being a bigfooter is that none of them agree about anything so everything is accepted.
 
HarryHenderson said:
Even that mental midget Jeff Meldrum has never offered up any serious explanations for the deficiency. He apparently believes Bigfoot is a serious conservationist and abides by the 'take only memories, leave only footprints' code.
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And apparently Bigfoot has been clever enough so far to leave only fake ones.
 
eerok said:
What passes for bigfoot evidence is some of the fakest-looking crap I've ever seen. (I've seen some ghost and alien stuff that's as bad or worse, but that's not a recommendation.)

The videos are a joke -- bad acting in bad monkey suits -- and the footprint casts are more darkly humorous than anything. Have any of these fakers even observed how a foot works during the physical act of walking? Or seen what a foot really looks like? (Pro tip: this would require removing at least one boot while more or less sober.)

Who on earth could buy into this stuff? It doesn't even make sense. What a pathetic, goofy fantasy. What a fraud.
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I object. Jimmy Dean sausages are not darkly humorous. They are more goofball/jackass humorous. As for people who buy into this stuff...

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GT/CS said:
Some of them claim that if there is enough food for bears then there is enough for bigfoots.
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They're right. There's nothing about the habitat in which bigfoots are believed to reside that precludes their reality. There is ample food out there in the North American forests (east, west, north, and south) to sustain a low density population of large omnivores. The low density is the key.

The problem is that it's untenable to have that dispersed population existing under our noses uncatalogued for the (generously) 300 years of exploring, collecting, surveying, hunting, protecting crops, driving on highways, etc. that's occurred in North America since European colonization.
 
The theory that makes me laugh out loud is that bigfoot are everywhere because they migrate all across the country. Crossing interstate highways doesn't seem to be a problem for bigfoot.
 
GT/CS said:
The theory that makes me laugh out loud is that bigfoot are everywhere because they migrate all across the country. Crossing interstate highways doesn't seem to be a problem for bigfoot.
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I agree.
 
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