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Ten Years Ago In Bigfootery

On the trail with Bigfoot believers

San Francisco Chronicle from August 6, 2000.


Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization. In a hobby filled with strange characters, the BFRO stands out: Members investigate sightings in a thorough, scientific manner, distancing themselves from hoaxes and profiteers.

There's nothing the BFRO hates more than a hoax.

Now, with the Internet, researchers can catalog and analyze sightings as never before.

John Freitas says BFRO gets more than 10 reports a day.

It may seem surprising that Scott Herriot, 41, is the skeptic. A former stand-up comedian who works as a host for San Francisco-based ZDTV's "Internet Tonight" show, he is one of the few who claims to have had a close encounter.

It was eight years ago, when he was following up a sighting by a few kids at the mouth of the Klamath River. Herriot says he saw a 6-foot creature in the woods, 30 or 40 feet away.

He found what he thinks was a nest and a few Bigfoot hairs.

"Can I say for absolutely sure (I saw a Bigfoot)?" Herriot says. "No." --

"It's a great mystery, it's really cool," Herriot says. "(And) it can become a very obsessive thing."


Ten sightings reported to BFRO per day is a hell of a lot! Herriott now says that he is more than 99% sure that he saw a Bigfoot.
 
Play dead and cover your neck if it's a grizzly bear...


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On the trail with Bigfoot believers

San Francisco Chronicle from August 6, 2000.

Ten sightings reported to BFRO per day is a hell of a lot!


SF Chronicle said:
There's nothing the BFRO hates more than a hoax.

Bigfoot sightings have been recorded in the United States for nearly 200 years.

(John) Freitas says BFRO gets more than 10 reports a day.

"You can pretty much tell when somebody is feeding you a line," Freitas says. "It'll be something like, "Yeah, I was down with my girlfriend, and we were doing the wild thing, and here comes Bigfoot. Pretty soon he joined in.'."

Most reports to BFRO are considered credible, but Johnson's brought investigators running.

A majority of BFRO reports are years or decades old.

Of course, the significance of 10 reports per day is two-fold. First, you end up with about 3,650 reports per year. Secondly, you can now use some figures to begin to address the common pro-Bigfooter argument of "they can't all be liars or mistaken."

This story says that most reports are considered credible but I've read that about 80% of reports to BFRO are discarded because they are obvious lies. The true numbers and percentages are not published by BFRO and this probably works to their biased advantage. We are unable to know the degree to which people are enthusiastic about fabricating a Bigfoot sighting and that they are commonly not afraid of ridicule (at least in this context). These various factors could give more confidence and substance when countering with "indeed those few thousand published Bigfoot sighting reports can be all hoaxes and misidentifications... every last one of them."
 
But when you deal with the media, they get facts wrong, you can get quoted wrong or they simply make something up to sell papers. Or to get their stories published by their editors. Lately it has happened in all of the interviews someone from our organization has given. We even had one reporter sneaking around on one of our research areas, who was given the location by ANOTHER reporter who had been there. He was tossed off the land because it is private property and posted as such. As a result, we will no longer invite the press to a research area. All interviews are given off site now. In fact we have been declining most press requests lately.
 
I have heard Scott mention that on radio interviews, that quote is correct.
 
One thing Bigfooters do, is tell people where they are going. This is a big problem with Bigfoot research.

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What Drew mentions here is absolutely on the nose. We need to keep our mouths shut better during a ongoing investigation.
 
About BFRO report submissions

Of course, the significance of 10 reports per day is two-fold. First, you end up with about 3,650 reports per year. Secondly, you can now use some figures to begin to address the common pro-Bigfooter argument of "they can't all be liars or mistaken."

This story says that most reports are considered credible but I've read that about 80% of reports to BFRO are discarded because they are obvious lies. The true numbers and percentages are not published by BFRO and this probably works to their biased advantage. We are unable to know the degree to which people are enthusiastic about fabricating a Bigfoot sighting and that they are commonly not afraid of ridicule (at least in this context). These various factors could give more confidence and substance when countering with "indeed those few thousand published Bigfoot sighting reports can be all hoaxes and misidentifications... every last one of them."

It's Judaculla Day. Popping in to see what's going on. I think I saw my shadow.

Here's a post I made back in January 2009 on Bigfoot Forums about the BFRO report submissions

Just a few observations....

The submission rate to the BFRO can be calculated by anyone on the outside of the organization. I've done it before, but I'll save you the search for my post.

Report 24646 was submitted on 8/31/08.

Report 22890 was submitted on 1/10/08.

24646 - 22890 = 1756 reports

Divde that by 235 days from 1/10 to 8/31 and you get 7.5 reports submitted a day, or about 2,750 per year in 2008.

Most of that is trash ('I saw Bigfoot and he was [insert grotesque and puerile remark here] ROFLMAOOOOO!!!') or has no contact information. Some of it is requests for information that come through the report page.

Assume 15% of the 2,750 has good contact information and is serious at least on the face of it. That's 410 contacts to make each year.

A handful of those will be clearly bogus after just a simple phone interview. Many will be folks reading into experiences--correctly or not--that scared them silly. There's no way to provide an absolute litmus test for these stories, and the resources to thoroughly investigate them are scarce. Volunteer investigators do all of this out of their own pockets. Additionally, it's rare that a report comes in that is hot, meaning that little time has elapsed since the incident. Why go investigate a report in the field if it's 30 years old?

If contact can be made and it's not obviously a hoax, it will be published with a few exceptions. By far, the biggest thing that holds back a "legitimate" report is the request of the witness. If someone says, "Please don't put this on your website," they don't. Sometimes info is deleted to protect identifying the witness. I only recall a dozen or so reports that were held back for anything other than that, and many of the reasons were idiosyncratic to the particular situation (From "This person is insane" to "Hey, we're monitoring this right now, and publishing this will give away the location.")

It has been many years since my BFRO days, but the big thing holding reports back by default was a backlog of thousands of submisssions--again, most of it being trash. The harvest was plenty, but laborers were few... not that membership was lacking... it just wasn't a priority for folks. No one was generating those submissions internally. The backlog was an enormous headache for many of us, but perhaps that problem has been whipped.

I've never seen any evidence of hoaxing on BFRO expeditions. I've seen lots of folks very eager to believe and read into things, both paying participants and BFRO members. There are also a great many who do have their heads on straight, both paying participants and BFRO members.
 
There's something I've always wondered.

Considering all the enthusiasts with presumably high-quality equipment... Why does Bigfoot only let himself get caught on fuzzy, low-quality images of dubious verifiability?
 
There's something I've always wondered.

Considering all the enthusiasts with presumably high-quality equipment... Why does Bigfoot only let himself get caught on fuzzy, low-quality images of dubious verifiability?

Because, a bigfooter's bigfoot film is only as good as how bad his camera skills are (or appear to be).
 
What passes for bigfoot evidence is some of the fakest-looking crap I've ever seen. (I've seen some ghost and alien stuff that's as bad or worse, but that's not a recommendation.)

The videos are a joke -- bad acting in bad monkey suits -- and the footprint casts are more darkly humorous than anything. Have any of these fakers even observed how a foot works during the physical act of walking? Or seen what a foot really looks like? (Pro tip: this would require removing at least one boot while more or less sober.)

Who on earth could buy into this stuff? It doesn't even make sense. What a pathetic, goofy fantasy. What a fraud.
 
What passes for bigfoot evidence is some of the fakest-looking crap I've ever seen. (I've seen some ghost and alien stuff that's as bad or worse, but that's not a recommendation.)

The videos are a joke -- bad acting in bad monkey suits -- and the footprint casts are more darkly humorous than anything. Have any of these fakers even observed how a foot works during the physical act of walking? Or seen what a foot really looks like? (Pro tip: this would require removing at least one boot while more or less sober.)

Who on earth could buy into this stuff? It doesn't even make sense. What a pathetic, goofy fantasy. What a fraud.

Regarding the part I bolded; Super bigfoot foot scientist Jeff Meldrum.
 
Super bigfoot foot scientist Jeff Meldrum.
If science actually came down to an argument from authority, Jeff Meldrum might put a small kink in the observation that bigfoot is pure baloney. But that is not the case. There is no consensus that compelling evidence for bigfoot exists. And there is a long history of crackpot scientists. That's why peer review is so important.

Have you seen those casts I'm talking about, though? They're so poorly done. They look like nothing more than a cartoon conception of feet.
 
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