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It's not going to work, BP

Tricky said:
Probably. I have a southern accent. I'm from Alabama. Every summer when I was a child we'd go to my grandfather's cabin in Gulf Shores and play on the beautiful white sand beaches. I am heartbroken that those beaches are now dirty. I hope we will be able to make them recover. I'm sure going to try.
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I wish I didn't know about your accent. Now, whenever I read a post of yours, I'll have to add the accent. And, if I'm ever admonished by you, in an official capacity, I'll be forced to add the Southern State Trouper attitude.

Back on topic,

I have complete trust that all forces are working at maximum effort. Its completely to their advantage to do so.

The blame game, if their is one, should be worked on a bit later so that it doesn't suck-up too much of B.P.'s resources, or the Government's brain power. I feel for Tricky in this, and not just as a suck-up.
I also love those waters, and have a southern hillbilly accent; though I can do new England college professor if I have to.

I ask this general question:
Has there ever been a peace-time effort of this scale to stop an environmental problem? I don't know, but I can't think of one off-hand.

And one specific question: The relief wells that are being drilled seem to be for the purpose of plugging up the hole. Why can't they be used to keep that pool on line; gather it in the usual way; relieve that pressure, etc.?
Seems like there's a lot of oil down there.
 
quarky said:
I wish I didn't know about your accent. Now, whenever I read a post of yours, I'll have to add the accent. And, if I'm ever admonished by you, in an official capacity, I'll be forced to add the Southern State Trouper attitude.
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Well, it's not pure southern. It's been modified by working for BP for thirty years. Think Andy Griffith doing the dead parrot sketch.

quarky said:
And one specific question: The relief wells that are being drilled seem to be for the purpose of plugging up the hole. Why can't they be used to keep that pool on line; gather it in the usual way; relieve that pressure, etc.?
Seems like there's a lot of oil down there.
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That is indeed likely. The first thing, though, is to get the oil stopped and evaluate the damage as well as possible. One thing to note is that this was a field that was not yet being produced. Even had the well been completed, it would have been tested and shut-in (probably). Producing the field is a very complex science that requires that you tap certain parts first and others later in order to maintain formation pressure.

But in all liklihood, this well will never be used for production. There is probably a great amount of formation damage from the unrestricted flow. You see, oil flow in completed wells is restricted or "choked" for any number of reasons to optimize flow, or to keep the reservoir from collapsing from differential pressure between sections. It's a lot more complex than that, but I'm not qualified to give you a better description. However, if it looks like this well can be used, then it will. Shutting a well in is a temporary step and allows it to be re-entered.
 
Cain said:
Buuuuuuuull****. By the sound of it I can not only tell he's a phony, but where he's really from. I backtraced it.
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Right, Professor Higgins. You are familiar with every form of southern accent and you are certain that a person's accent cannot be modified by factors other than their place of birth. :rolleyes:
 
Tricky said:
Right, Professor Higgins. You are familiar with every form of southern accent and you are certain that a person's accent cannot be modified by factors other than their place of birth. :rolleyes:
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My sister, born and raised in Kansas City, has lived in Louisiana for 30 years. She's picked up a bit of a Cajun accent over that time. Don't know if it's just an affect on her part, but it's there.
 
Elizabeth I said:
Actually, that was me, and I stand by what I said. To me that commercial smacks of W in a flight suit on a carrier deck proclaiming "mission accomplished."

And my original post was something in the sense of a "last straw" thing - BP screwed around with the safety of people and the environment, repeatedly, and now that the thing has finally, inevitably blown up in their faces, they think that sending some guy out on a boat to cruise around and talk in a Southern accent should make us forgive and trust them and quit screaming for Tony Hayward's head on a platter.
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Oh, so YOU'RE the one, not him. I blame you for confusing me.

Anyway; where was I? Oh yes:

Most reasonable people, I believe, would allow that some kind of PR announcement is warranted or at least permissible given the circumstances. You, however, seem to think of it as evidence of how truly diabolical BP is. Your posts come off as if your finger is this close to the Caps Lock key.

Well no, you don't really appear to be ranting. But you certainly seem just as prone as I am to hyperbole. Again, the people who live in Louisiana are going to talk like people who live in Louisiana. Are you suggesting that, in order to appear "less smacking of mission accomplished", they should've flown in somebody from Michigan or New Hampshire to do the commercial, rather than the person who's actually in charge of the cleanup?
 
MarkCorrigan said:
I'm British too. ;)

Tricky, I echo some of what has been said. I think that the overall management of the company BP are absolute amoral bastards who really don't care in the slightest. They rack up saftey violations like most people rack up breaths. It's a joke to think that they are in any way as bad as any company with less violations. Sure, they might well do a better job cleaning up the mess they made, but they still make a shocking amount of the total mess.
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The problem is if you actually look at the reports, most of the other companies had more violations and more repeat ones. The reporting of violations is skewed against BP. Funnily enough.
 
From my perspective, I'm not sure that any ads right now are going to go over well. My preferred action plan for BP: Continue busting your ass to stop and clean up the leak. Continue making sure compensation claims are made quickly and fairly to those impacted. Worry about rebuilding your image after the bulk of the clean up efforts are behind us.


Tricky said:
There is nobody in the world who wants this cleaned up more than BP folks.
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Let's not go overboard. We'll never know for sure without a Want-O-Meter, but I suspect that there are people whose livelihoods have been devastated by this disaster who "want" it more than BP folks.

PogoPedant said:
What's a neutral accent?
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The one newscasters typically adopt.
 
ZirconBlue said:
From my perspective, I'm not sure that any ads right now are going to go over well. My preferred action plan for BP: Continue busting your ass to stop and clean up the leak. Continue making sure compensation claims are made quickly and fairly to those impacted. Worry about rebuilding your image after the bulk of the clean up efforts are behind us.
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Do you mean stony silence, or speak only when spoken to? Frankly I think most people appreciate communication.

ZirconBlue said:
Let's not go overboard. We'll never know for sure without a Want-O-Meter, but I suspect that there are people whose livelihoods have been devastated by this disaster who "want" it more than BP folks.
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You think BP employees won't be devastated if the company, because it did a lousy job of cleaning up, is forced out of the US market? I'm sweatin' bullets, man.

ZirconBlue said:
The one newscasters typically adopt.
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They always sound phony to me. Who the hell really talks like that?
 
Tricky said:
Do you mean stony silence, or speak only when spoken to? Frankly I think most people appreciate communication.
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We've been getting plenty of communication that's reported on pretty much daily. I'm just talking about PR-type activities.


You think BP employees won't be devastated if the company, because it did a lousy job of cleaning up, is forced out of the US market? I'm sweatin' bullets, man.
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I'm sure they will, and I'm sure you are. But, some of the Gulf Coast residents have already been devastated.

They always sound phony to me. Who the hell really talks like that?
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I think I do. Not in newspeak, but in a general lack of accent.
 
As far as I'm concerned, you all have American accents. I would struggle to separate you by state or region, but American, that I can recognise.

I recall as a child, a schoolmate saying how glad she was she didn't have a Scottish accent like her granny. In fact her granny was speaking Scots, not English, but at the time it was fashionable to discourage children from speaking their native tongue. I remarked that I rather suspected anyone from England would consider that both of us had Scottish accents.

The closer a particular accent is to your own, the finer you can place it. But everybody has an accent.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
Now I have to say that is delusional. Everybody has an accent.

Rolfe.
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I spent a few years in Caroline County in VA. Not that far south from Wash. DC.
A couple years after moving to the DC area, I had to go back to Caroline for the draft physical for the Cuban Missile Crisis.
I found the local dialect nearly impossible to understand after only a few years away.
That Southern Drawl can be a killer for comprehension.
Didn't hear anything like it in the BP commercial.
 
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