A rational case for anarchism

[JihadJane]

JihadJane also thinks that the US government did the 9/11 attacks, and planted bombs in all the towers and the Pentagon.

Bollocks.

 

[dafydd]

Bollocks.

A change of heart?

 

[Naddig74]

Has this thread not choked it's last yet?

 

[rbairos]

The discussion about heart surgeons brings up a question: how do you even know a heart surgeon is a real qualified heart surgeon?

What's to prevent me, someone who never went to medical school, from just putting out a sign that I do heart surgeries for 2,000,000 Doritos (I'm assuming there is no traditional money with government being gone) and throw in some brain surgery for a crate of Hot Pockets? Oh I demand payment up front with no refunds and if anyone objects I use the hired security I have protecting me to "disappear them."

Heck, why would there even be medical schools in this type of world? Why actually study to be an engineer when anyone can just claim to be one?

..Sorry for jumping in late, but just worked through the entire thread and noticed this line of questioning was never answered, though the answer should be obvious to most whatever your view.

To be brief: there would always be a market demand for certification and a market demand for compatibility (in reference to your medical and currency questions). Arguably these markets would be much more evolved as there would be no tax funded state service to compete with. And unlike a state driven certification service, they *would* be economically vulnerable to charges of fraud.

Also many arguments have been made elsewhere that there would be a greater supply of medical practitioners. Its painfully obvious in my country that supply is nowhere close to demand for example.

Cheers

 

[caniswalensis]

..Sorry for jumping in late, but just worked through the entire thread and noticed this line of questioning was never answered, though the answer should be obvious to most whatever your view.

To be brief: there would always be a market demand for certification and a market demand for compatibility (in reference to your medical and currency questions). Arguably these markets would be much more evolved as there would be no tax funded state service to compete with. And unlike a state driven certification service, they *would* be economically vulnerable to charges of fraud.

Also many arguments have been made elsewhere that there would be a greater supply of medical practitioners. Its painfully obvious in my country that supply is nowhere close to demand for example.

Cheers

If you don't mind going a little deeper into it, who would charges of fraud be filed with? Who would decide if they had merit? If I understand what you are saying, the only repercussion to fraud would be a loss of business. Is that correct?

What about lone practitioners that do not belong to a professional association, and can not therefore be penalized for malpractice by their peers? They can always claim whatever cewdwntials they wish to. What is their motivation to stop butchering people?

Regards, Canis

 

[rbairos]

But the free market is in command there! If you need unpredictable carnage and professional lip-removers, that's the place to shop.

You could make the same case to support communism given Polands economic chaos immediately after communism fell...

Or you could consider, that even having survived a vicious civil war and under immense fundamentalist pressure to form a theocratic state, the Somalians have actually *increased* access to education, air travel, communication, and health access *in the absence* of any state whatsoever, even outperforming neighboring nations in some cases.

They're an excellent case study regardless of one's political disposition.

 

[rbairos]

If you don't mind going a little deeper into it, who would charges of fraud be filed with? Who would decide if they had merit? If I understand what you are saying, the only repercussion to fraud would be a loss of business. Is that correct?

What about lone practitioners that do not belong to a professional association, and can not therefore be penalized for malpractice by their peers? They can always claim whatever cewdwntials they wish to. What is their motivation to stop butchering people?

Regards, Canis

This is the part I share some of the same questions too, to be honest.
This is about how justice is delivered (or even more simply how violent individuals are dealt with) in purely market driven society without a state?
I suspect by interacting with the community, individuals agree to enter some type of contract which would leave them vulnerable to the court system, though this is sounding more state-like to me.

Can someone more knowledgeable in the topic respond?

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

A change of heart?

No, just embarrassment and an attempt at cover-up.

Like Ron Paul when that racist crap that appeared in his newsletter in the early 90's resurfaced back in 2008.

 

[Virus]

I don't trust this libertarian stuff. They seem to make up about half of the Truther movement.

 

[rbairos]

Lets try to keep this discussion on topic.
It seems the last two pages are just strawmen and ad hominems.
Even though its a skeptic society, the standard of discussion isn't
as high as I would expect.
Back on topic: Does anyone know how justice + courts work on an open
market? Googling provides lots of articles and essays,
but hoping someone could summarize..

Edit: This seems to be a comprehensive perspective to start:

"Anarchy and Efficient Law"
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Anarchy_and_Eff_Law/Anarchy_and_Eff_Law.html