Who started both World Wars?

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Thunder said:
I have thus far seen NO evidence the Zimmerman Telegram, offering Mexico much of the American Southwest in exchange for joining the side of Germany, was part of any "Zionist" conspiracy to get the USA into the war.

I have thus far seen NO evidence that the sinking of the SS Lusitania was part of any "Zionist" conspiracy to get the USA into the war. Nevermind the fact that the German U-boats sank 2 more American ships after that, and THEN the USA jumped into WW1.

Got any evidence.....9-11 "Investigator"??

oh, and btw, the baseless and unsourced allegations of self-hating Jew, Benjamin Freedman, does not count as evidence.

I await...your "evidence".

But as usual, I expect nothing from you. Nada. Zippo.
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What evidence do you have Benjamin Freedman was a self-hating Jew? It seems to me with you recent criticisms of Israel lately you could fall into that category.
 
9/11-investigator said:
OMG, BaaBaa opines that it were the Nazis who sank the Lusitania.
Well I have got news for you: they sank The Maine as well.
And now that we are at it, it was Heinrich Pilatus who nailed Jesus as part of a millenia old German extermination program.
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"Did we quit when the Nazis sank the Lusitania?"
 
Dave Rogers said:
Ah, all it needed was an oblique reference to James Bacque for the perfect storm of incompetent historiography. The August 1945 Report of the Military Governor states that the column "Other Losses" refers to boys and old men of the Volkssturm released without documentation after the war. Bacque, for reasons best known to himself, chose instead to believe that this number represented deaths in captivity, and then made up some additional numbers to bring the total from about two-thirds of a million to the ropund million. Buchanan appears to have chosen to believe Bacque's long-discredited canard, again for reasons best known to himself; Roberts, who wouldn't know sound reasoning from a hole in the ground, appears to have been nicely fooled. And, of course, many millions are known to have been deliberately killed by the Nazi regime, by everyone except neo-Nazi liars.

Dave
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The Germans held in the open pens after the was suffered the same fate as the Union soldiers at Andersonville.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Yep, that's him. The representative of America's Old Right, now completely dead and replaced by neo-trotskyite neo-'conservatism'. He still believes that muslims carried out 911. And against better knowledge hopes that The West (under Anglo ledership) is not dead. I in contrast cannot wait to destroy (meaning dissolve) the West as soon as possible and let Anglosphere do the dying all by itself. I am completely uninterested in Duke's phantasy that America can be saved, I will dance on it's grave and wish the NWO croud here success in bringing it's demise about. It's disintegration is inevitable after the Euro's will constitute 10% of the population at the end of this century. I am interested though in 10% of the best of the current Euro-population and help them escape to Europe (Euro-Siberia rather).

But be honest SanityGap.... you will call everybody a 'right wing anti-seminite' (sic) who is not willing to hand over his civilization to Islam on a silver platter, won't you.

Happy that I am not in your club.
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Is it you position the neocon Jews carried out 911?
 
9/11-investigator said:
Yep, that's him. The representative of America's Old Right, now completely dead and replaced by neo-trotskyite neo-'conservatism'. He still believes that muslims carried out 911. And against better knowledge hopes that The West (under Anglo ledership) is not dead. I in contrast cannot wait to destroy (meaning dissolve) the West as soon as possible and let Anglosphere do the dying all by itself. I am completely uninterested in Duke's phantasy that America can be saved, I will dance on it's grave and wish the NWO croud here success in bringing it's demise about. It's disintegration is inevitable after the Euro's will constitute 10% of the population at the end of this century. I am interested though in 10% of the best of the current Euro-population and help them escape to Europe (Euro-Siberia rather).But be honest SanityGap.... you will call everybody a 'right wing anti-seminite' (sic) who is not willing to hand over his civilization to Islam on a silver platter, won't you.

Happy that I am not in your club.
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You must have read some Yockey.
 
Thunder said:
funny.

btw, are you aware that your sig. is from a BS newspaper, founded by a Korean Evangelical, who created the Washington Times to preach the "good news" that he was the literal Son of God?
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The CIA created the Washington Times. Rev. Moon just supplied the money.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Amazon reviews overwelmingly in favor of Barque's thesis.

Here an attack on Barque from Eisenhower apologist Stephen Ambrose. No surprise that Nizkor hosts this attack, keen as it is to demonize the Germans to the hilt and keep the myth of Anglo sainthood alive. Barque + bishop Williamson + Suvurov/Icebreaker (if true) of course are enough to reverse this picture.

Here a recent defense of Barque against Ambrose. I have yet to look into this matter but from a propagandistic point of view Barque obviously is a treasure trove.

http://www.jamesbacque.com/
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I suspect Nizkor is just a front for the ADL. They seem to have all their files.
 
Belz... said:
This is an entire universe of straw of your own making.

No one is saying that the GERMANS are evil. The Nazi leaders were evil, and many people severaly erred in their judgment to follow their example.

No one is saying that "anglos", whatever the hell that means, are saints.

You are simply arguing against a void, here.
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So what made the "Nazi leaders" evil, opposing the Jews and Bolshevism?
 
MaGZ said:
"Did we quit when the Nazis sank the Lusitania?"
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you do realize you are mocking Saggy with these posts, not any debunker, right?

MaGZ said:
The Germans held in the open pens after the was suffered the same fate as the Union soldiers at Andersonville.
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my great grandfather was a german POW held by the americans, he was treated very well and saus he would have stayed in the US had he not had a wife and daughter back in germany (he later worked for the US air force in germany)

MaGZ said:
How come no one is answering any of my posts?
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sorry, my pager thats supposed to alert me whenever you post must be on the blink
 
I haven't read much of this thread, 'cos when Saggy, MaGZ and 9/11-investigator are posting, you can pretty accurately guess what'll be said beforehand. I just wanted to say that every time I see the thread title, the Stonecutters song goes through my head.
 
MaGZ said:
How come no one is answering any of my posts?
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Because most of us have more important things to do than to adress the insane ramblings of yet another Nazi worshipper.
 
defaultdotxbe said:
my great grandfather was a german POW held by the americans, he was treated very well and saus he would have stayed in the US had he not had a wife and daughter back in germany (he later worked for the US air force in germany)
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I was referring to German prisoners held in Europe after the fall of Berlin.
 
A lot of German and Italian prisoners stayed in the UK at the end of the war. Some that were reptatriated returned to the UK later.
 
defaultdotxbe said:
my great grandfather was a german POW held by the americans, he was treated very well and saus he would have stayed in the US had he not had a wife and daughter back in germany (he later worked for the US air force in germany)
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Bacque claims that the "other losses" occurred in Europe, not among the POWs who were held in Britain and North America.

I discussed some of the huge holes in Bacque's so-called theory in this post three years ago. Unfortunately I was unable to write my intended follow-up to this post, as my mother's friend had become rather senile by then :(
 
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