Ziggurat
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Ok. Your claim is that density doesnt matter.
My claim is that density is more important than path length even though it might seem like the same thing.
No, brantc. Density determines optical depth, but opacity is determined by the ratio of optical depth to physical depth.
Or conversely thermalization with a short path (in a solid/water) produces blackbody where as "thermalization" in a thin(Atm or less density) plasma does not produce blackbody.
What the hell are you talking about? What do you think "thermalization" means? If scattering doesn't produce a black body spectrum, then the photons are not thermalized.
You can call Dr Ott at NIST and talk to him about arc discharges in high pressure gas. He was a pioneer in this field. He would be happy to talk to you.
About what?
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You're saying they did not realize that "JET is physically much smaller than the optical depth of the plasma inside it."
Uh, no. I'm saying nothing of the sort. I'm quite sure they knew that. I provided that information to YOU because YOU seem unaware of that.
From the Jet website. You must have missed this.
I didn't miss it, I just understood what was implicit that you did not. They did not expect that the plasma would be opaque, but that it would give off a spectrum proportional to a blackbody spectrum (though less intense because it's NOT opaque). What they observed was additional radiation, due to unexpected radiation mechanisms.
I would take "were not consistent with this expectation" as saying that had theoretical expectations that were not met.
Yes, but you don't understand either the expectations OR what it means that they were not met.
Since you seem to know alot about this subject, Zig, where did they go wrong??
They didn't "go wrong". They discovered a new mechanism for producing radiation for their particular plasma under particular conditions. None of it has any bearing on the concept of optical depth, and its relationship to blackbody radiation.
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at the core.