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Help me out - Are the " WTC2 was struck by a disguised cruise missile" avocates labeled " planers " or " no-planers " ?
Are cruise missiles classified as planes?
Help me out - Are the " WTC2 was struck by a disguised cruise missile" avocates labeled " planers " or " no-planers " ?
See the above, and add;Video segment # 20 from the ALL43 video should be very challenging for debunkers. The now well-documented factor that the supposed jetliner does not emit the sound of one; and, the fact that the explosions occur in the wrong places, resulting in no discernible crash debris are all factors that are fully re-confirmed in video segment # 20.
The above is a total and inexcusable lie.Small wonder posters seem intent on changing the subject. I here assert that posters here cannot and will not even try to show that the video, the actual images that were spammed all over teevee, can be said to show a real Boeing 767 involved in a crash into the South Tower.
The video segments, one by one, separately, grouped, and in the aggregate serve to confirm no big Boeing hit the South Tower.
Seeing is believing.
Seeing and hearing are reconfirming, one of the other.
Posters, no Boeing 767 hit the South Tower. The videos prove it.
Why do you keep asking for the “lurkers” on this forum to come to your rescue? Haven’t you realized yet that there are NONE? How long will it take for you to see that you are alone in your thoughts?Lurkers, please take a look, form your own conclusions and post up what you think. Movies and teevee drama require that we suspend the capacity for disbelief in order to assume what we see is true. This does not mean that one is being asked to assume the ALL43 videos are false. Rather, it is more a coming into the middle ground; namely:
They reveal the truth, something you to not seem to care about or understand.Do the video segments reveal conditions that are true or false as they pertain to a Boeing 767@800ft@550mph, crashing into the South Tower, as is supposed?
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Do the video segments reveal conditions that are true or false as they pertain to a Boeing 767@800ft@550mph, crashing into the South Tower, as is supposed?
They reveal the truth, something you to not seem to care about or understand.
fess,
In your post #782, you offer up something I can respond to; namely:
Would you please kindly say what segment of the ALL 43 video you find most convincing that a Boeing 767@800ft@550mph is depicted?
If you don't want to you don't have to; and, I don't expect you to do much, for you cannot.
I have already plainly said:
I here assert that posters here cannot and will not even try to show that the video, the actual images that were spammed all over teevee, can be said to show a real Boeing 767 involved in a crash into the South Tower.
In words you might understand, I dare you to try to prove me wrong on the basis of actual references to what is seen and heard in the videos.
You won't
In words that might be easier still for you to understand, the chip that had been on your shoulder is now on the ground and hit your foot on the way down causing you pain, embarassment and loss of face in the entire thread, including lurkers.
On top of that direct challenge to get you to post up something of substance, your avatar looks stupid![]()
Jammi, real question. What do you think I can see in your pictures that isn't happening in the Mythbusters video that I linked to?
Out of consideration for those of us who have this freak on ignore, It'd be great if you guys didn't paste in lengthy quotes like this one. I know, I know, nobody's forcing me to read what's there...but nobody forces me to look at roadkill when I drive by either. Very, very difficult to turn away, period.
The fact that this imbecile has brainwashed his young children, something he crows about on his own disturbing website, should give anyone pause before engaging him. He is quite clearly suffering from acute mental illness, and has no compunction about loosing his children on the world in a similar mindset. It's terrible to consider what these kids will be like by the time they reach the age of emancipation.
If any other relatives happen to be reading this, please consider stepping in in some fashion. Grievous harm is being done to young, innocent, developing minds.
Jammi, real question. What do you think I can see in your pictures that isn't happening in the Mythbusters video that I linked to?

Let me double check for accuracy of understanding. In the above you not only ASK, but SAY you are asking "a real question" correct?
You then pose the following as a question:
What do you think I can see in your pictures that isn't happening in the Mythbusters video that I linked to?
Scott, are you asking me to tell you what you can see with your eyes and related apparatus of perception; if so, I think you misapprehend what one person can do for another person?
Would you please clarify.
Note, too, that the absolute necessity that some posters have for engaging in gotcha rhetoric whereby they put someone else in the position of always having to answer questions that they, the questioner, then get to assess as 'right' or as 'wrong' or as requiring the answer to yet another question has its limitations.
When you pose a question that asks someone to answer what only you can experience, you expose the weakness of the rhetorical ploy that you might have been engaging in.
So, once again, did you actually ask what you intended to ask?
So, once again, did you actually ask what you intended to ask?
I can tell you that despite his indoctrination of the child, Once she matures she will come to the same conclusions that we do. That hijacked planes impacted the world trade center. You cannot MAKE someone mentally ill by indoctrinating fantasies that defy evidence and physics upon them. As a child she may believe those fantasies but there comes a time when we all agree there is no twoof fairy
Oh, I see, you are trying to enter me into that game you don’t play… what was it again, twenty questions?fess,
In your post #782, you offer up something I can respond to; namely:
Would you please kindly say what segment of the ALL 43 video you find most convincing that a Boeing 767@800ft@550mph is depicted?
If you don't want to you don't have to; and, I don't expect you to do much, for you cannot.
The only way I seem to be able to answer this question is by making the statement; on your way to the mental health specialist, stop by your eye doctor’s office.I have already plainly said:
I here assert that posters here cannot and will not even try to show that the video, the actual images that were spammed all over teevee, can be said to show a real Boeing 767 involved in a crash into the South Tower.
In words you might understand, I dare you to try to prove me wrong on the basis of actual references to what is seen and heard in the videos.
You won't
What a mess of asinine garbage, is that the best you can do?In words that might be easier still for you to understand, the chip that had been on your shoulder is now on the ground and hit your foot on the way down causing you pain, embarassment and loss of face in the entire thread, including lurkers.
On top of that direct challenge to get you to post up something of substance, your avatar looks stupid![]()
jammonius said:causing you pain, embarassment and loss of face in the entire thread, including lurkers

Oh, I see, you are trying to enter me into that game you don’t play… what was it again, twenty questions?
Well, I would say that there were a number of the videos that clearly show a 767/200 series aircraft slamming into the south tower. Although some of the videos appear to be “cherry picked” in order to prove whatever point it is that you are trying to make, others are unmistakably clear. Here are few other videos for your viewing pleasure, one of which is not a MSM version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJXfIOEQB8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RpNSF-er88&feature=related
BTW, what altitude was this aircraft at? So far you have stated, 1000’, 800’, and 700’.
The only way I seem to be able to answer this question is by making the statement; on your way to the mental health specialist, stop by your eye doctor’s office.
What a mess of asinine garbage, is that the best you can do?
We could ask, say, a group of 4 posters to each post up 10 title page stills, for instance.
You got you linky wrong, Jam...here I corrected it for you.
As if you haven't posted it enough.
The above is an example of what I have said all along, you haven’t the slightest clue as to how a video camera works. And, who are all of these “lurkers” you keep talking to, and where are they? So far, there have been no lurkers or anyone else that has joined you in your insane thoughts.Please note for comparison purposes the following segments:
0:00 Shadow thingy approaches right to left, straight on and moves quickly.
0:18 Shadow thingy approaches at a very flat, straight line angle.
0:58 Shadow thingy approaches on a steeply descending angle.
1:14 Shadow thingy is not even shadowy and is, instead, a blurry blob and approaches rather quickly on a descending angle.
7:04 Shadow thingy is likewise a blurry blob here, approaching on a steep angle, but is slow as molasses.
7:16 This is a continuation of the 7:04 blob noting that it takes 12 seconds for the slow as molasses blurry blob to create the explosion in the wrong place.
8:03 Supposed engine is actually a firecracker that burns out in mid-air. See sequence 8:03 - 8:05
8:08 Shadow thingy has wings that slope downwards, and then proceeds to rise so as to create the explosion higher than it was to start with, thus contradicting the striaght line approach and the descending approach videos (see explosion at 8:13).
8:51 Shadow thingy makes a long straight line approach before exploding in the wrong place.
The above is an example of the kind of analysis that is possible here, lurkers.
Ok, by using your numbers, Flight 175 impacted the south tower at the 65th floor, and the north tower was impacted at the 81st floor. That is about as vague as the speeds you quote. If, you are going to keep going on with your “no plane” theory, please get your numbers right.That depends on which version of shadow thingy you rely on. It could be the one, the other, or any other variation one wants.
By the way, however, I generally give 800ft for Shadow thingy and 1000ft for the blob thingy at the North Tower. So, South Tower = 800ft; North Tower = 1000ft in my posting.
Earth to Fess,

By the way, what do you think of the very first sentence of NCSTAR 1-5A Ch 9 in terms of how stupid the NIST report actually is:
"This chapter describes the fire behaviors observed in World Trade Center (WTC)2 during the period following the impact of United airlines Flight 175 at 9:02:59 a.m. until the tower collapsed at 9:58:59 a.m. The fires had very different behaviors than those observed for WTC 1. In general, there was much less fire spread, and the total area of the outer facade where fires were observed was much smaller. For this reason, the discussion will focus on general characteristics and major changes in fire distribution instead of the details of the fire spread as in Chapter 8 describing the fires in WTC 1."