Mossad Chief: Israel becoming a burden for the USA

[WildCat]

What about Abbas?

Abbas has said he'd be willing to recognize Israel's right to exist?

eta: and not "the right to exist until Muslims destroy it" stuff.

 

[DC]

Abbas has said he'd be willing to recognize Israel's right to exist?

eta: and not "the right to exist until Muslims destroy it" stuff.

http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3707501,00.html

"Name yourself, it's not my business," He said. "All I know is that there is the state of Israel, in the borders of 1967, not one centimeter more, not one centimeter less. Anything else, I don't accept."

 

[NoZed Avenger]

They should . . . sit down with the Palestinians to finalize a peace agreemant . . . .

Alan: "Thanks, Thunder. Great idea. How to play the flute. (picking up a flute) Well here we are. You blow there and you move your fingers up and down here."

Noel: "Great, great, Alan. Well, next week we'll be showing you how black and white people can live together in peace and harmony, and Alan will be over in Moscow showing us how to reconcile the Russians and the Chinese. So, until next week, cheerio."

 

[Thunder]

So......

when is the head of Mossad gonna be bashed as a Judenrat, self-hating, race-traitor?

 

[Zach Aviv]

In other words, they should march themselves into the sea. The Palestinians will accept nothing less. For Hamas it would be unconstitutional to do so, and Fatah isn't much better.

Does he get stundie points for saying something is a straw man, then proposes the exact same solution as the alledged straw man?

McHrozni

You correct. We Jews took land from Palestinians. Of course they accept nothing less. This why we must continue our persecution of Palestinians and continue our land steal off them in West Bank and Jerusalam.

Israel no burden for America. Jews have biggest say in America politic so America safe until Israel become big superpower like America. American Jew would have sense to move to Israel

Mossad Chief talk silly. He know that Israel not burden for America. Israel help America get Resource in Middle East

 

[carlitos]

Is there a rule against doing what "Zach Aviv" is doing?

 

[Zach Aviv]

Is there a rule against doing what "Zach Aviv" is doing?

I only do what you do. I comment on thread. You are hostile by seem to want censor some view. Forum have rules for hostile poster like you. I respond no further on this here.

Thunder ask:

when is the head of Mossad gonna be bashed as a Judenrat, self-hating, race-traitor?

Calling self-hater make Jews looks stupid in these days. Mossad chief probably misguided but sure to mean well for Jews. Otherwise he not get job.

 

[WildCat]

http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3707501,00.html

Really? That's the closest he's come?

 

[a_unique_person]

In other words, they should march themselves into the sea. The Palestinians will accept nothing less. For Hamas it would be unconstitutional to do so, and Fatah isn't much better.

Does he get stundie points for saying something is a straw man, then proposes the exact same solution as the alledged straw man?

McHrozni

Instead of just taking your opinion, I'll check their opinion.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/poll-most-israelis-palestinians-agree-on-terms-of-new-state-1.25929

 

[Thunder]

Instead of just taking your opinion, I'll check their opinion.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/poll-most-israelis-palestinians-agree-on-terms-of-new-state-1.25929

Arabs lie!!!!!!

 

[bit_pattern]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...ael-gradually-becoming-burden-on-u-s-1.293540

wow. it appears some eyes may be opening in the Chosen State.

The Chief of the Mossad is saying that Israel use to be an asset to the USA...but is turning itself into a burden.

Now, lots of folks around the world knew this decades ago, but if a person in such a high level in Israel is starting to acknowledge this, perhaps the lightbulbs are finally turning on over there.

its not too late for Israel to turn this all around, and show the world that it can learn from its mistakes and change it ways.

As soon as America changes it's energy policy then Israel will cease to matter anymore and the billlions in military aid will dry up. It has only ever been a wedge in the heart of pan-Arabism and subsequent control of the oil-fields. It's a useful distraction, people in the region can get outraged with Israel's crimes rather than focussing on the Waahabi extremists that control their lives and are compliant to America's wishes.

 

[bit_pattern]

Do you know of any major Palestinian political players who don't define "a lasting peace" as "the destruction of Israel"?

Haniyeh, for one But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your zealotry and hatred

http://www.haaretz.com/news/haniyeh...-palestinian-state-with-1967-borders-1.256915

 

[WildCat]

lol nothing will please you he?

All he said was that Israel exists now. He didn't say it had a right to, nor has he disavowed his party's vow to destroy it.

But that impressed you, did it DC?

 

[WildCat]

Haniyeh, for one But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your zealotry and hatred

http://www.haaretz.com/news/haniyeh...-palestinian-state-with-1967-borders-1.256915

This is your most embarrassing reading comprehension fail to date bit_pattern. He didn't say he'd recognize Israel's right to exist at all.

He said the Hamas government had agreed to accept a Palestinian state that followed the 1967 borders and to offer Israel a long-term hudna, or truce, if Israel recognized the Palestinians' national rights.

A truce isn't recognition. The only state he favored recognizing was a Palestinian one.

Have you ever read the Hamas covenant bit_pattern?

 

[bit_pattern]

All he said was that Israel exists now. He didn't say it had a right to, nor has he disavowed his party's vow to destroy it.

But that impressed you, did it DC?

This is kind of like worrying that a gnat wants to destroy an elephant

 

[DC]

All he said was that Israel exists now. He didn't say it had a right to, nor has he disavowed his party's vow to destroy it.

But that impressed you, did it DC?

not one centimeter less, does mean what exactly ?

 

[a_unique_person]

This is your most embarrassing reading comprehension fail to date bit_pattern. He didn't say he'd recognize Israel's right to exist at all.

A truce isn't recognition. The only state he favored recognizing was a Palestinian one.

Have you ever read the Hamas covenant bit_pattern?

I found it hard to find in the Likud charter that palestinians have a right to anything.

Settlements
The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.

Where are they supposed to exist in peace?

 

[angrysoba]

Do you know of any major Palestinian political players who don't define "a lasting peace" as "the destruction of Israel"?

Well, it won't involve Hamas if what they promise to their supporters is to be believed:

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with.

http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm

 

[Captain.Sassy]

I found it hard to find in the Likud charter that palestinians have a right to anything.




Where are they supposed to exist in peace?

Interesting. This certainly does seem to suggest that Likud doesn't recognize the rights of the Palestinians to a state.

Interestinger even in that some people on this board have implied that the Gazans' election of Hamas legitimizes the collective punishment of Gaza, given that Hamas ostensibly seeks Israel's destruction.

I wonder if they'd accept the same logic applied to Israel under a Likud government.

 

[Oliver]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...ael-gradually-becoming-burden-on-u-s-1.293540The Chief of the Mossad is saying that Israel use to be an asset to the USA...but is turning itself into a burden.

That almost sounds as if the Chief of the Mossad said that back on December 13, 1949.