Merged Israel Attacks Palestinian Aid Flotilla, According To Reports

[fallout]

Is this already exposed as fake , i think it is:

http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2010/05/turkish-sources-israeli-targeted.html

 

[WildCat]

Activists would be a fine neutral term, don't you think? You can't really be a peace activist if you intend to start a fight when the soldiers come to stop your blockade running.

In Palestine, peace is what happens when Israel is destroyed. See Article 22 of the PLO Charter.

Palestinian militants, you see, are really peace activists.

Why do you hate peace qc?

 

[Pardalis]

whats wrong with a "Free Palestine" banner?

If by "Palestine" you mean the entire region that includes both the territories and Israel.

 

[fallout]

Color me skeptical. I stopped giving Amnesty International my hard-earned money long ago, when I realized that they had gone off the deep end. And "an additional" $5 million? Big freaking deal. That's a rounding error for the billions of dollars that goes to Gaza. If these "activists" had spent 1/2 the effort in actually going through proper channels, they wouldn't need a stupid symbolic blockade, and 10 of them would still be alive. Maybe they picked up the martyrdom complex from their Palestinian hosts.

Holly cow, "symbolic blockade"?

 

[DC]

If by "Palestine" you mean the entire region that includes both the territories and Israel.

and is it what the group in question means?

 

[WildCat]

Nelson Mandela disagrees with you and supports the aid workers, by the way. OH MY GOD WHAT A HORRIBLE TERRORIST!!!!

Mandela has an opinion? Presumably he has an anal orifice as well...

Is Mandela some sort of expert on the Israel-Gaza issue? Maritime Law? Something else relevant?

 

[Pardalis]

and is it what the group in question means?

I'm guessing the whole region.

When they say "occupation", they also mean Israel itself.

 

[DC]

I'm guessing the whole region.

When they say "occupation", they also mean Israel itself.

cite?

 

[Pardalis]

cite?

Troll?

 

[WildCat]

ETA - Thunder, do the italics mean that you are posting as someone else or what?

That's Thunder's straw man talking. And his straw man does a lot of talking...

 

[fallout]

In Palestine, peace is what happens when Israel is destroyed. See Article 22 of the PLO Charter.

Palestinian militants, you see, are really peace activists.

Why do you hate peace qc?

Are you really simulating false understanding about this, or you can't see that they say Zionism and not the State of Israel?

 

[DC]

Troll?

what?

you said when they say this they mean that, how do you know?
i wonder how you concluded that, you actually read statements of that group that led to the conclusion or did you conclude it based on your prejudices?
ETA: or is it really because one or two in that friendliest indeed support Hamas?

 

[carlitos]

Holly cow, "symbolic blockade"?

Oops. I meant that their running the blockade was symbolic. The blockade is real.

 

[Taarkin]

Oops. I meant that their running the blockade was symbolic. The blockade is real.

It is symbolic mostly because Israel chose to attack it.

 

[WildCat]

As a side note the reason that this is being done is because putting the food and aid through the 'regular channels' basically ensures it almost never gets to anyone and stays in bureaucratic stasis. Getting it there directly is being attempted as a last resort because this is a huge crisis and people are dying.

And your evidence for this claim is...?

 

[Safe-Keeper]

So what has the UN said about Egypt's closed border with Gaza?

Since the Egyptians are not Jews, I don't think anyone cares.

Funny since israel is billing this as that they will respond to future attempts to run the blockade with even more escalating deadly force.

Given how well the current level of force worked, I can't blame them.

 

[JihadJane]

Apparently attacking Israeli soldiers and getting 10+ people killed when they fight back isn't enough to deter blockade runners.

Indeed. Of course since only one side actively instigated violence and the other side did it's best to show restraint until faced with lethal force, it's easy to guess which side you'll support.

This is untrue. The soldiers boarded the boat as they did with all the other in order to pilot it to the appropriate port and route the aid correctly, as the activists weren't interested in because that wouldn't server their politics. However, in this boat, the soldiers were attacked with pipes etc. and fought back.

How do you know whether any of this is true, quixotecoyote?

Has your skepticism really evaporated so completely that you haven't noticed that all narratives except the one the Israeli government wants to establish have been blacked out?

 

[WildCat]

Do you have any inkling of what life is like for the average Palestinians at the hands of Israel, and do you think it was any better for them before Hamas took power?

I note you then posted the following, all of which took place after Hamas attained power in Gaza:

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-...eli-blockades-effects-palestinians-2010-06-01

So in your opinion life is worse for them under Hamas, correct?

 

[bobdroege7]

Are you really simulating false understanding about this, or you can't see that they say Zionism and not the State of Israel?

Did you miss the part where it says that Israel is the instrument of Zionism?

 

[WildCat]

there are voices that claim the IDF shot first.
its claims vs claims.

That voice was below deck inside a bathroom, correct?