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Merged Lockerbie bomber alive after 9 months

Caustic Logic

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If you'll recall, convicted Lockerbie bomber Abdul al Megrahi was released from prison last year on "compassionate grounds." That meant he was likely to die within three months.

Back on May 20 we passed the nine months mark (since release, not the even earlier diagnosis), and he's still alive. Beats the record for convicted killers surviving after release. Suspicions are growing over that diagnosis. BP may as well have written it up.

So what do we do now? Are sporadic boycotts of Scotland sufficient? Should we send in mercenaries? Maybe even into Libya? Was Obama at fault? Can those doctors be jailed? Bomb Libya for good this time? Here are some excellent (if dated) recommendations from Americans from last year, mostly just about Megrahi personally:

maybe we can shoot the plane down and speed the process up a bit.

Cut the bastards throat

He should have been taken apart with a pair of pliars and a blowtorch, slowly.

We should have put him down

This beast deserves no compassion, none. Let him die in prison.

I hope the manhunt is on!

Send Blackwater after him.

May the bastard die a painful death in Libya.

No pain medication. He should suffer as his victims did
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http://world-news.newsvine.com/_new...?threadId=655523&commentId=14487983#c14487983

Anyone with more current ideas, now that the plane has landed and he continues to taunt us with continued breathing? Is it too late for the torture?

Please everyone, refrain from mentioning how this monster might be innocent or this will be sent to the CT forum. Just normal politics as far as this thread is concerned - convicted mass-murdering terrorist Islamist scum set free and what now? Who pays and how?
 
lionking said:
That's the point. He was found guilty and nothing has changed that. Scotland has made a mistake it should be embarrassed about.
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Good. No conter-measures specified, but some natural indignation.

Also, I mant to note that today is a good day for this thread, being Memorial Day, in remembrance of the US military personnell that died on the dark December night. Megrahi was convicted of killing them, so doesn't everyone agree he should pay the full price?
 
Caustic Logic said:
Good. No conter-measures specified, but some natural indignation.

Also, I mant to note that today is a good day for this thread, being Memorial Day, in remembrance of the US military personnell that died on the dark December night. Megrahi was convicted of killing them, so doesn't everyone agree he should pay the full price?
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Nah. That case was a travesty.
 
Shucks you guys........Is it time to rerun your "feelings" that something just isn't right here.


I'd just like to add I really, really really, hate murderers. which is better than someone who really, really hates murderers but not as good as someone who really, really, really, really hates murderers.


May I also add that I support the concepts of rule of law and an independent Judiciarry. Dammit scotland.....what makes you think you can do that in scotland....applying scottish laws and legal practices.....


plus the diagnosis is a fraud....got no evidence but every so often I like to express it as a feeling.
 
I say we invade and liberate them from their monarchic oppressors.

I also have really strong condemnations! Very, very outraged! Why did they listen to some "doctor" about his health?! Morons!
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
I say we invade and liberate them from their monarchic oppressors.

I also have really strong condemnations! Very, very outraged! Why did they listen to some "doctor" about his health?! Morons!
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Awesome! You may not be American, but you're okay. Wait - Neverland, like outside LA? Nevermind... I suppose this thread is a little bit fishing. I remember those good ol days threads from last September where people just vent. Wanted to host one of my own, now that there's another nine months worth of indignation.

So far it's not as fiery as I'd hoped, but ah well
 
quixotecoyote said:
Nah. That case was a travesty.
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Please take your doubts to the CT forum. Convicted is all that should matter here, in a world that must be governed by laws. Convicted murderer of fully 270 people, who were largely alive as they fell six miles.


The Fool said:
Shucks you guys........Is it time to rerun your "feelings" that something just isn't right here.


I'd just like to add I really, really really, hate murderers. which is better than someone who really, really hates murderers but not as good as someone who really, really, really, really hates murderers.


May I also add that I support the concepts of rule of law and an independent Judiciarry. Dammit scotland.....what makes you think you can do that in scotland....applying scottish laws and legal practices.....


plus the diagnosis is a fraud....got no evidence but every so often I like to express it as a feeling.
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I'm likeing the elipses!

American family members WERE led to believe, once by someone (I hear), that Megrahi would definitely die in jail there, hopefully in misery. If those weren't Scotlands rules, shouldn't they have been changed? After all, this is Susan Cohen et al, American, proud, loud, and righteously bereaved. I've heard that around. What does anyone say?
 
well considering only that he is convicted, i say he should die in jail.

but it might be that there is indeed real doubt about that conviction.
 
Well I never had any problems believing the diagnosis and prognosis estimate were kosher, but I hate that one of the main docs involved seems to be so dodgy... The dodginess doesn't seem to be in the arena of faking a diagnosis but it does make it harder for me to put faith in him.
 
A patient in that condition in the UK would be on palliative care only for the primary condition. There are reports - hard to confirm - that he's been receiving active treatment on the cancer, including chemotherapy. If true this might have slowed down its progress.

In the end such diagnoses aren't a precise science.
 
DC: That doubt was just general enough, but it is OT to go further.

On death for killers I'm not real strong either way. I don't personally think it helps anything, but if someone who's really hurting from a murder thinks it'll help THEM, I won't stand in the way.

That was always out with Megrahi, if I'm not mistaken. Life was the harshest option, and as I gather in Europe that usually means 20ish years usually, or until you're olld, or about to die. Generally, one isn't to actually die in jail. So ...

Professor Yaffle said:
Well I never had any problems believing the diagnosis and prognosis estimate were kosher, but I hate that one of the main docs involved seems to be so dodgy... The dodginess doesn't seem to be in the arena of faking a diagnosis but it does make it harder for me to put faith in him.
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I have not studies the details of that prognosis (or wasn't it plural?). But from a distance, the things i hear, I'm not really trusting. It seems less like good science and more like some kind of deal. To discuss what I suspect was traded for this early ticket home would take us off topic. But I suspect a deal. That said...
GlennB said:
A patient in that condition in the UK would be on palliative care only for the primary condition. There are reports - hard to confirm - that he's been receiving active treatment on the cancer, including chemotherapy. If true this might have slowed down its progress.

In the end such diagnoses aren't a precise science.
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Exactly as well. When three months passed, people were being silly to get mad that he was still alive. You do have to admit that gets less silly each month, but the principle still holds. For all we know that was a good prognosis and he's just defied it with unexpected changes. Being home and in better spirits is miracle medicine.

But does Megrahi deserve better spirits when he was convicted of plotting the deaths of hundreds?

I was liking the Buddha's idea above. To the shores of tripoli again?
 
The Fool said:
Shucks you guys........Is it time to rerun your "feelings" that something just isn't right here.


I'd just like to add I really, really really, hate murderers. which is better than someone who really, really hates murderers but not as good as someone who really, really, really, really hates murderers.


May I also add that I support the concepts of rule of law and an independent Judiciarry. Dammit scotland.....what makes you think you can do that in scotland....applying scottish laws and legal practices.....


plus the diagnosis is a fraud....got no evidence but every so often I like to express it as a feeling.
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This was mocked at the time, that they were dupes. IIRC, I even posted something wondering what the dupes (many of you here) would say when, not if, he doesn't die on schedule.

Science. Theory. Prediction. Results in accordance with prediction. Umm, yey. QED: Scottland was a bunch of dupes.
 
Beerina said:
This was mocked at the time, that they were dupes. IIRC, I even posted something wondering what the dupes (many of you here) would say when, not if, he doesn't die on schedule.

Science. Theory. Prediction. Results in accordance with prediction. Umm, yey. QED: Scottland was a bunch of dupes.
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Nonsense they just have incompetent doctors. Look at the put up job Steven Hawking has been doing for years. Like anyone with ALS lives that long.

Also, how is this an issue for American politics?
 
Ronnie Biggs, released at about the same time, also still alive. He only thumbed his nose at the law, rather than taking his punishment like a man though, so there's no real fuss made about him.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Nonsense they just have incompetent doctors. Look at the put up job Steven Hawking has been doing for years. Like anyone with ALS lives that long.

Also, how is this an issue for American politics?
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It's showing off the dangers of socialized health care.
 
Beerina said:
This was mocked at the time, that they were dupes. IIRC, I even posted something wondering what the dupes (many of you here) would say when, not if, he doesn't die on schedule.
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Yes, how telling that medical science is inaccurate on that point. :rolleyes:

Science. Theory. Prediction. Results in accordance with prediction. Umm, yey. QED: Scottland was a bunch of dupes.
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Explain this to me. Which doctor, exactly was duping them? All of them?
 
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