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Why does God hate sex?

Radrook said:
And the mandate to Adam was fill the earth=not overflow-just fill. But in the frenzied heat and copious sweat of the sex act, seems the instructions were misunderstood. LOL
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Guys n' Gals, either take birth control or lay off the sex! This "Fruitful Multiplication" was vital back in the day when babies often died, but especially in Old World & First World Nations, kiddos have a 99% chance to survive, so lets concentrate on quality, not quantity kids.:rolleyes:

This planet be full to bursting now. Six, nearly seven billion is enough "fruitful & multiplyin'" for one God or many Gods.:eye-poppi We gotta leave some room for Earth's other earthlings.
 
Radrook said:
So everyone becomes virtuous with old age! Sure way to sainthood? LOL Look at the bright side, no more huffing, puffing and sweating like a stuck sow, begging, crawling while sprawling, gyrating while ululating, keening while screaming, ovulating, impregnating while insinuating, sticking while kicking and an infinity of annoying and exhausting exceteras which plague both young sexes. Free to twiddle your thumbs to kingdom comes. That's the life!
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Hugh Hefner didn't get the memo...:p
 
Originally Posted by Radrook
Churches can say whastever they please. But the thread is about what God thinks--isn't it?

dafydd said:
God doesn't exist.
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

Isn't it funny that god always seem to think the same thing that the man professing his understanding of god, thinks?
 
rorylee said:
Who are u kidding.. in the last 50 years the population on earth has doubled, compared to the last 1950 years with such a thing as 'birth control' available lol.
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Yeah, its doubled in places where birth control is either unavailable or frowned upon.
 
arthwollipot said:
And that is...?
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That is, from a Christian standpoint, what ever the Bible tells us in reference to morality and all other subjects found within its pages.
Aren't we going around in circles a bit here? Can you be more specific?
 
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arthwollipot said:
Is it not interesting that sexual repression seems to be a common thread in many different religions?
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It is. Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism, some pagan religions- they all tell you it is bad, especially for women, hate homosexuality, especially gay men, tell you it is only within marriage and to make babies, tell you not to use birth control, think celibacy is holy and worship virginity, especially for women.

What is interesting is how much of sex religion nevertheless contains. Catholicism bans all sex unless it is to make children- even between married couples who were both virgins at marriage, it is looked down on and treated as a necessary evil- but their holiest site has an enormous naked man smack dab on the ceiling and more naked ladies and naked fellas all over the place than you could shake a stick at.

Hinduism- it's illegal to kiss in public in India. It's illegal for actors to kiss in movies. No, it's not that they can't have sexual scenes, that you could understand- they can't kiss. Boys and girls are sent to separate schools from an early age and are not only not allowed to date but aren't allowed to be friends. There is no sex before marriage there, obviously, and people aren't even allowed to choose their own husbands and wives.

Sacred Hindu art, though? Holy jumping Jesus, Shiva and Vishnu are doing things they should be ashamed of. :D Stuff you never even thought of doing. This tantra and kama sutra stuff could teach veteran porn stars a thing or two.

And it is right in their most sacred temples. Right on the doors. It's decoration.

Go figure.
 
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Eeney, that's all a lot of unsubstantiated baloney. Buddhism "hates homosexuality" and "worships virginity"? Catholicism "bans all sex unless it's to make children"? You don't know what you're talking about.
 
Yes, I do. Buddhist monks and nuns are required to be celibate. One of the goals of "nirvana" is that you no longer have any desire for anything of the flesh. It's considered the ideal to not want it.

In at least one branch, homosexuality is considered "inappropriate":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_topics_and_Buddhism#Tibetan_Buddhism

I spoke too strongly about Catholicism. I meant to say that having children is the first reason and everything else is far secondary (which is why birth control is not allowed, even within marriage, and oral sex is banned, even within marriage.)

This gives you a good idea of what they think about it:

http://www.catholic.com/library/Birth_Control.asp


Basically, they think it is to procreate. Even the fun is linked to children.
 
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Radrook said:
That is, from a Christian standpoint, what ever the Bible tells us in reference to morality and all other subjects found within its pages.
Aren't we going around in circles a bit here? Can you be more specific?
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Well, certainly. You're telling us that God thinks "what the Bible says" without actually telling us what the Bible says.

Would you mind telling us what the Bible says about sex? Given that the Bible is apparently a perfect reflection of the mind of God?
 
If one branch considers homosexuality inappropriate, that in no way supports the dogmatic overstatement that "Buddhism hates homosexuality"; if monks and nuns are expected to be celibate on the path to overcoming material desire, that in no way shores up the absurd contention that "Buddhism worships virginity". This careless use of language and your broad, sweeping and unsupportable contentions are anything but reasoned or evidential criticisms against religious views on sexuality.

As to the Catholic institutional "ban" on sex-except-for-procreation, I appreciate your clarification and I agree that mode of thought is outdated and silly. Our opinion is shared by many Catholics, too, who strongly disagree with their Church's official policy on contraception and oral sex. Father James Kavanaugh wrote a controversial book in the 60s which dealt this exact issue, calling on the Church to change its stance both on priestly celibacy and marital contraception -- neither of which is biblically supported.

Historically the rule-makers in the Vatican have been (gradually) open to the will of the people and (slowly) susceptible to the mores of society as a whole; it's probable they'll eventually soften their stance, but in the meantime the Church's views in this regard are sadly entrenched.

BTW, in case you are not aware of this, the Song of Solomon is a book included in the Catholic Bible which extols the beauty and pleasure of sexual intimacy. Its poetic passages appear to contradict the Vatican's view of sex as an exclusive tool of procreation. Make of that what you may.

EeneyMinnieMoe said:
Yes, I do. Buddhist monks and nuns are required to be celibate. One of the goals of "nirvana" is that you no longer have any desire for anything of the flesh. It's considered the ideal to not want it.

In at least one branch, homosexuality is considered "inappropriate":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_topics_and_Buddhism#Tibetan_Buddhism

I spoke too strongly about Catholicism. I meant to say that having children is the first reason and everything else is far secondary (which is why birth control is not allowed, even within marriage, and oral sex is banned, even within marriage.)

This gives you a good idea of what they think about it:

http://www.catholic.com/library/Birth_Control.asp


Basically, they think it is to procreate. Even the fun is linked to children.
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arthwollipot said:
Well, certainly. You're telling us that God thinks "what the Bible says" without actually telling us what the Bible says.

Would you mind telling us what the Bible says about sex? Given that the Bible is apparently a perfect reflection of the mind of God?
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What I said is that from a Christian standpoint the Bible reflects the mind of God. About sex? Well, it condemns fornication, adultery, bestiality, incest and homosexuality and angelic/human copulation or any type of amorous relation between the twain. Although some might take umbrage with that homosexualty category. But since you are asking me and not them that is my understanding. It condemns sex outside of marriage. It also depicts God as permitting concubinage until Christianity appears.
 
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Radrook said:
What I said is that from a Christian standpoint the Bible reflects the mind of God. About sex? Well, it condemns fornication, adultery, bestiality, incest and homosexuality and angelic/human copulation or any type of amorous relation between the twain. Although some might take umbrage with that homosexualty category. But since you are asking me and not them that is my understanding. It condemns sex outside of marriage. It also depicts God as permitting concubinage until Christianity appears.
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Okay, thanks for that. Now may I ask for your own opinion? Just as a comparison.
 
arthwollipot said:
This is a question that occurred to me while catching up on the "Love the Christian" thread. God hates sex. You can't have sex unless you are married - it's a sin. You can't have homosexual sex - it's a sin. You can't use birth control - it's a sin. You can't show bare skin in public - it's a sin. You can't masturbate - it's a sin.

In fact, according to God, you can only have sex with a married spouse, and only for the purposes of procreation. Ordained priests aren't supposed to have sex at all! What the hell does God have against sex?? And if it's bad, why the hell did he make it so damn good?

Note: keen readers will notice that I have mixed up sexual taboos from several different sects here and generalised the hell out of the whole argument. Deal with it.
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I'd like to know how God feels about wet dreaming. When the "spillage of seed" is uncontrolled. I guess God never evaluated the effects of raging hormones. :boggled:
 
arthwollipot said:
Okay, thanks for that. Now may I ask for your own opinion? Just as a comparison.
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My opinion is that many of these prohibitions have social functions which keep society running smoothly. For example, adultery is a form of theft which can lead to a violent reaction from a spouse leading to violent encounters which can result in murder. It weakens the basic social unit of the nuclear family. Children grow up more psychologically stable in a family where both parents are present and have a smooth relationship and not one full of bickerings and suspicions. So the prohibition of adultery is definitely pro social stability. The same with all the other ones mentioned.
 
Radrook said:
My opinion is that many of these prohibitions have social functions which keep society running smoothly. For example, adultery is a form of theft which can lead to a violent reaction from a spouse leading to violent encounters which can result in murder. It weakens the basic social unit of the nuclear family. Children grow up more psychologically stable in a family where both parents are present and have a smooth relationship and not one full of bickerings and suspicions. So the prohibition of adultery is definitely pro social stability. The same with all the other ones mentioned.
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First point: adultery happens all the time, and society is as stable as ever.

Second point - it appears that your opinion pretty well coincides with what you say God's opinion is.
 
arthwollipot said:
This is a question that occurred to me while catching up on the "Love the Christian" thread. God hates sex.
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Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, Universe spanning entity that is deeply and personally concerned with my sex life.
 
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