What a load of unmitigated rubbish.
Old guys are making the rules. Plain and simple, they aren't getting any any more, so they want to impose their ED on everyone else. Makes them look virtuous somehow. Bottom line is bigotry.
Not really.What a load of unmitigated rubbish.
The first statement can hold true, the second ain't necessarily so. Indeed, numerous societies exist, and have existed, without government. Law, custom, and rule are all elements of a society whether or not government exists.Stable families can exist without marriage, and society is based on law and government, not on families.
This is a question that occurred to me while catching up on the "Love the Christian" thread. God hates sex. You can't have sex unless you are married - it's a sin. You can't have homosexual sex - it's a sin. You can't use birth control - it's a sin. You can't show bare skin in public - it's a sin. You can't masturbate - it's a sin.
In fact, according to God, you can only have sex with a married spouse, and only for the purposes of procreation. Ordained priests aren't supposed to have sex at all! What the hell does God have against sex?? And if it's bad, why the hell did he make it so damn good?
Note: keen readers will notice that I have mixed up sexual taboos from several different sects here and generalised the hell out of the whole argument. Deal with it.
Some churches believe it's even wrong for MARRIED couples to enjoy sex; they can only do it for procreation, but only if they don't enjoy it.
So what does God think?Churches can say whastever they please. But the thread is about what God thinks--isn't it?
So what does God think?
Your implying the same situation to Mary? how can you be assured it is the same? and are you assuming in a time where the belief was heavier than it is in today's society, she would say yes, in fear God would punish her for saying no?So, let me get this straight. I "meet" a girl in a dark alley. I think any girl is lucky to have me. I tell this girl "you are lucky, you will be with me". She looks around, no one there, I'm obviously some whackjob, much stronger than her. She acknowledges defeat instead of crying and stuff. I have my way with her afterwards. Have I not raped her?![]()
I wasn't trying to relate it to Mary, but laws.Seriously trying to equate the president with an omnipotent being? Obama, in all his power over the land, still only has the strength of a mortal man. If he came to me and said I were to carry his child, I would not only tell him to go to hell, I would give him directions.
Your implying the same situation to Mary?
how can you be assured it is the same?
and are you assuming in a time where the belief was heavier than it is in today's society, she would say yes, in fear God would punish her for saying no?
So what does God think?
Yes, I understood that. I was moving on to the next point. What does God think?What God as described in the Bible thinks isn't necessarily what the churches say he thinks. That was my point.
I wasn't trying to relate it to Mary, but laws.
Yes, I understood that. I was moving on to the next point. What does God think?
So everyone becomes virtuous with old age! Sure way to sainthood? LOL Look at the bright side, no more huffing, puffing and sweating like a stuck sow, begging, crawling while sprawling, gyrating while ululating, keening while screaming, ovulating, impregnating while insinuating, sticking while kicking and an infinity of annoying and exhausting exceteras which plague both young sexes. Free to twiddle your thumbs to kingdom comes. That's the life!
Almost true but God doesn't hate sex: he hates ambiguous parentage. Yahweh slowly emerged from an earlier pantheistic religion that apparently had a lot more relaxed attitude about pregnancy. Inheritance was matrilinear in the Middle East prior to 2000 bce. Over the next 1000 years many of these same areas changed to patrilinear inheritance. Old Testament was written beginning about 1800 bce, justifying the new structure. All about who's the daddy, and who inherits the flock.God began hating sex the minute his sex-orgy pantheons collapsed into monotheism.