I love Dr. Nancy Snyderman of NBC

[TSR]

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I note that, instead of evidence, you offer more bald assertion and personal attacks.

Is the problem that you do not understand what "evidence" is?
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Wrong.
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No.. YOU ARE WRONG! water is NOT a toxic substance! PERIOD!

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The link you quote but apparently did not read demonstrates your ignorance.
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how can water be a toxin? we're MADE of it! ignoramous!

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While it is a major component of our make up, we are hardly "made of" water.
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its not the water that kills you, its the lack of being able to breathe if you drink too much water, you end up swallowing into your lungs.. don't you get it?

the molecule of water is not harmful.. its the use of any material clogging your lungs, is deadly, not the actual water itself, if you drink water like how you're supposed to.. not drown yourself.

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Water intoxication (also known as hyper-hydration or water poisoning) is a potentially fatal disturbance in brain functions that results when the normal balance of electrolytes in the body is pushed outside of safe limits by over-consumption of water. Normal, healthy (physically, nutritionally and mentally) individuals have little reason to worry about accidentally consuming too much water. Nearly all deaths related to water intoxication in normal individuals have resulted either from water drinking contests, in which individuals attempt to consume high amounts of water, or long bouts of intensive exercise during which electrolytes are not properly replenished, yet excessive amounts of fluid are still consumed.[1]


Water can be considered a poison when over-consumed just like any other substance. The recommendation from the medical field is to drink about 1.2 liters per day[2] depending upon body mass. Water intoxication would only occur at levels far higher than that.

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Where in this quote do you find the word "lungs?"
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[Safe-Keeper]

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wrong again

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At least I learned something from this thread. I thought 100% of organic food had residue, and that there was no effect on switching from conventional foods, other than that perhaps your health got worse.

 

[TSR]

At least I learned something from this thread. I thought 100% of organic food had residue, and that there was no effect on switching from conventional foods, other than that perhaps your health got worse.

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il n'y a pas de quoi, n'est pas <sic>
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[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

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Okay, so you don't know that there's a difference. Why don't you learn what that difference is?

How about some *evidence* about your claim regarding pre-vaccine polio infection rates?

How some "evidence" about any time during recorded history (most of which excludes the use of vaccine) when the expected lifespan was 120 years?

How about some "evidence" about what is significantly physiologically different between "man" and, say "chimp"?
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Easy.

1) the polio virus decline started before the vaccination programs, it wasn't until a soldier died, that this scare campaign began, back then. the Chart I showed shows a decline before the vaccines were invented. Do I have to remind people the same scandal of H1N1 this last year, was the same type of bull crap they gave us back in the 1950s and 60s? Cause I can find the corruption pretty fast.. lets see here..

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"Even tho Dr. Bernice Eddy told congress in 72 there would be millions of cancer deaths if they didnt stop using the vaccine,congress didnt listen and penalised her for knowing and telling about it. Now millions have died and the vaccine IS STILL GIVEN to cause deaths, part of the NWO depopulation programme. = wiki = "Polio vaccine contamination"

Soon after its discovery, SV40 was identified in the injected form of the polio vaccine produced between 1955 and 1961. This is believed to be due to kidney cells from infected monkeys being used to amplify the vaccine virus during production. Both the Sabin vaccine (oral, live virus) and the Salk vaccine (injectable, killed virus) were affected; the technique used to inactivate the polio virus in the Salk vaccine, by means of formaldehyde, did not reliably kill SV40."
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2) Just recently it was in a study that supported that we have the ability to live to 120-140, I can't find it at the moment, but they found that out through our DNA. It's been written in the bible also, I'm not sure why you even asked this question, cause it is quite common knowledge.

(Herald Sun - ABIX via COMTEX) -- Scientists in the US believe that research into the lifespan of an earthworm may provide an insight into increasing the longevity of humans. The research involved the caenorhabditis elegans earthworm. Scientists exposed the worms to stress in order to predict their lifespan. Shane Rea, of the University of Colorado, believes that the research has yielded a "biomarker of ageing" which may ultimately allow scientists to modify an individual's stress-response system in order to extend their life. Rea says this may allow all humans to achieve the current maximum lifespan of around 120 years.

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3) for one, less hair, for two, more intelligence (for you not so much) for three, stronger immune system, better senses, advanced critical thinking skills (still may have skills, if you've not been vaccinated a lot)

The human DNA has at least 3,000,000,000 nucleotides in sequence. A proper comparison has not been made. Chimp DNA has not been fully sequenced.

 

[TSR]

Easy.

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And yet, no evidence -- at least nothing relevant to *humans*

Are we earthworms, SAFN?
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[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

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And yet, no evidence -- at least nothing relevant to *humans*

Are we earthworms, SAFN?
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are you flipping kidding me?

you can not find any evidence that humans can live up to 120 years?

where on earth have you been at? I've known about this a LONG time ago.

get with the times, use the internets lol

 

[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

At least I learned something from this thread. I thought 100% of organic food had residue, and that there was no effect on switching from conventional foods, other than that perhaps your health got worse.

no.. you're wrong again

 

[TSR]

are you flipping kidding me?

you can not find any evidence that humans can live up to 120 years?

where on earth have you been at? I've known about this a LONG time ago.

get with the times, use the internets lol

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Then why do you find it so hard to actually *cite* this evidence?
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[Chris Haynes]

whats the harm in chemicals in our foods? a lot that you don't even know about yet... but maybe in time you'll learn.

What is bad, is ALUMINUM being injected into newborns arms

that is MUCH DIFFERENT than EATING it.. through the gut.

The aluminum that occurs naturally in food gets into the bloodstream faster from the intestines. That is how digestion works.

Vaccines (and only a few contain aluminum) are given in muscle tissue to slow down entry to bloodstream, so that the immune system as time to learn about the antigen. If you are going to claim that the vaccine is bad, you need to provide actual proof. That means real scientific evidence, something a bit other than just "because I said so, so there!".

What is the harm of chemicals in food, you ask while going on about eating organice food? Ha, ha! You are a funny guy!

Which is kind of interesting because around here there have been folks poisoned by eating hemlock, including one death:
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2010/05/10/1421715/bellingham-man-warns-others-after.html

By the way, since you have all the answers, I have a table of measles incidence data from http://www.census.gov/prod/99pubs/99statab/sec31.pdf . Can you please tell us what happened between 1960 and 1970? Thank you.

Year.... Rate per 100000 of measles
1912 . . . 310.0
1920 . . . 480.5
1925 . . . 194.3
1930 . . . 340.8
1935 . . . 584.6
1940 . . . 220.7
1945 . . . 110.2
1950 . . . 210.1
1955 . . . 337.9
1960 . . . 245.4
1965 . . . 135.1
1970 . . . . 23.2
1975 . . . . 11.3
1980 . . . . . 5.9
1985 . . . . . 1.2
1990 . . . . .11.2
1991 . . . . . .3.8
1992 . . . . . .0.9
1993 . . . . . .0.1
1994 . . . . . .0.4
1995 . . . . . .0.1
1996 . . . . . .0.2

Edit to add a couple of websites that are relevant to a couple of comments you made:

1) comments on a page of website that Tenpenny is part of:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=5025

2) about snake bites:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=5134

Enjoy.

 

[Rolfe]

At least I learned something from this thread. I thought 100% of organic food had residue, and that there was no effect on switching from conventional foods, other than that perhaps your health got worse.

No. There's no real difference in the amount of residues on "organic" food, but they tend to use different pesticides. Someone already posted the sort of pesticides allowed by the organic movement. They are still pretty toxic, but tend to be a lot less effective.

The most toxic chemicals known to man are "natural", such as puffer-fish toxin and botulinum toxin. Plants and animals can be extraordinarily creative when manufacturing chemicals to combat predators. So because a pesticide is "natural" doesn't mean it isn't toxic.

The thing is, compounds that are of real use as pesticides tend to be tested for safety and efficacy, and licensed. This makes them "chemicals" in the eyes of the organic movement, so they are banned. However the less useful compounds may not have been so tested, and these are the things that are seized on as "natural" and "organic". Natural, OK. But still potentially viciously toxic. Just not tested and licensed.

It's Catch 22.

Of yes, and some organic producers ignore the rules and bank on not being caught.

Rolfe.

 

[Kwalish Kid]

so you're saying the same practices that the vaccine study used are the very same that ALL doctors use?

give me a break!

The procedures that you listed are supposed to be used by medical practitioners when giving vaccines. Not everybody gets a vaccine who wants to get a vaccine because some people cannot get vaccines. These poor people are at the mercy of crazy people who deny all evidence and refuse to get vaccines.

 

[Arisia]

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"Even tho Dr. Bernice Eddy told congress in 72 there would be millions of cancer deaths if they didnt stop using the vaccine,congress didnt listen and penalised her for knowing and telling about it. Now millions have died and the vaccine IS STILL GIVEN to cause deaths, part of the NWO depopulation programme. = wiki = "Polio vaccine contamination"

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Ah yes, the depopulation campaign... the one that's working so well that we're going to be at a population of 9 billion within 40 years?!?

 

[ShadowSot]

The truth is, they are just increasing the number of us, so when the reptilians finally reveal themselves, they have large crop of cattle to feed on.
S'why the education values are dropping, making debates like this possible, who needs smart cattle.

 

[Travis]

People, I think I have identified the problem in this thread. You see we were all assuming SaveAmericaFightNWO was from this reality. I now believe that an interdimensional rift has allowed him to post from some alternate reality. My proof? Here:

hmm.. how is lifespan growing? when its shrinking....

This clearly flies in the face of our reality where lifespans have been growing steadily since the Little Ice Age but who knows how correct it might be in SaveAmericaFightNWO's reality? Maybe in his dimension a catastrophe has been eroding lifespans for centuries. Also the Rockefellers are horrible robot overlords bent on destroying humanity in that reality while ours are merely the heirs of a Industrialist's fortune that have created a very large philanthropic foundation that benefits humanity.

And who knows, maybe this is still relevant in his reality:

The first indication of iron poisoning by ingestion is a pain in the stomach, as the stomach lining becomes ulcerated. This is accompanied by nausea and vomiting. The pain then abates for 24 hours as the iron passes deeper into the body and damages internal organs, particularly the brain and the liver, and metabolic acidosis develops. The body goes into shock and death from liver failure.​

But this isn't:

Iron deficiency (sideropenia or hypoferremia) is one of the most commonly known forms of nutritional deficiencies. In the human body, iron is present in all cells and has several vital functions—as a carrier of oxygen to the tissues from the lungs in the form of hemoglobin, as a transport medium for electrons within the cells in the form of cytochromes, and as an integral part of enzyme reactions in various tissues. Too little iron can interfere with these vital functions and lead to morbidity and death.​

You know, as opposed to our reality where things that are absolutely essential to life are also harmful if doses are too large or concentrated.

Maybe the words "moderation" and "balance" don't exist in his reality? Maybe in his world they just never let chlorine (used as a poison gas in WW1) and sodium (which explodes if it touches water) into their bodies whereas we will die if we don't get enough salt.

Just something to ponder.

 

[Estellea]

I see we have a live one here. Organic pesticides are actually more toxic to humans than synthetic as they are broad-targeted whereas synthetic pesticides are engineered to target specific pest metabolic processes.

Re: aluminium, oh where do I begin on this one? It is not administered IV (into the bloodstream) but rather IM. It then diffuses so slowly into the lymphatics and subsequently, bloodstream that it is undetectable without labelling. So you need to support your contention that aluminium in vaccines is in toxic doses.

Este

 

[TheDaver]

BAHAHAHAHA!!



Stupid troll is funny.

 

[Chris Haynes]

People, I think I have identified the problem in this thread. You see we were all assuming SaveAmericaFightNWO was from this reality. ....

I see we have a live one here. ...

.Stupid troll is funny.

Just a reminder that this new member has been suspended. He seems to not have read and understood the posted rules.

He also does not understand the problems inherent with using too much internet social networking, especially when one page links his to pseudonym with his real name (and it was a very boring Sunday... though I did make fresh pasta with the pasta maker my brother gave me!). Just to say that his nickname is his real attitude, and I actually sympathise with him on dealing with smokers at work.

While I sincerely doubt we can change his mind, I believe he should be treated gently and patiently. He should be required to provide evidence for his claims, and that evidence shlould be real science. The means no random websites nor news articles. Looking at some of his websites (and there are many), he definitely needs to be introduced to a revised version of Scopie's Law:

In any discussion involving science or medicine, citing Whale.to (or a number of other sites like Natural News, Infowars, and other anti-science sites) as a credible source loses you the argument immediately ...and gets you laughed out of the room.

 

[Travis]

Oh I bet he comes back with much anger and fury.

 

[Capsid]

Don't forget that there are oral vaccines too, so they must be OK right?

 

[JoeB]

Don't forget that there are oral vaccines too, so they must be OK right?

Of course not. SaveAmerica says that the (Oral) Polio vaccine caused more Polio than it prevented.