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A change of subject for anyone that wants to help me, but I have heard it mentioned by different folks that Rudy Guede was an informer for the police. Does anyone know more?
I think Bruce Fisher mentioned previously that he has some info.
I think RoseMontague was even asking about that the other day also...
Anyone?
Thanks, RWVBWL

Yes,
I have tried to get information on how solid the "source" of this information was, primarily from Dr. Waterbury. He has not answered me to this point. I have also gotten a good bit of feedback that it is pure unsupported rumor started by the PR machine or others involved on the innocent or FOA side.

Both Bruce and Dr. Waterbury indicated more information would be forthcoming.
 
Can anyone point me to a forum where there is evidence of the door and doorknob? I hate to rehash this subject if it has been discussed thoroughly before on this thread, however, I have a few questions:

1. Do we have a photo of the Meredith's doorknob?

2. Could the bedroom door only be locked with a key?

3. Were there separate keys for the bedroom door and front door?

4. Did any of the flatmates' keys fit Meredith's bedroom door?

5. Do we have any information whether Meredith carried both her bedroom key and house key together?

Someone provided a photo here a couple days ago -- Fulcanelli, I think -- although it didn't show the lock, it just showed part of the handle. He also said it was a mortise lock, which you can see diagrams of on the web. The keyhole is drilled into the door below the doorknob -- they aren't connected [see correction to this statement in my next post].

My guess is the key was sitting in the keyhole on the inside of the bedroom door, but Rudy took it out and put it in the keyhole on the outside of the bedroom door to lock Meredith in.
 
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Well, when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...

A change of subject for anyone that wants to help me, but I have heard it mentioned by different folks that Rudy Guede was an informer for the police. Does anyone know more?
I think Bruce Fisher mentioned previously that he has some info.
I think RoseMontague was even asking about that the other day also...
Anyone?
Thanks, RWVBWL


It is speculation at this point:

http://www.sciencespheres.com/
 
Someone provided a photo here a couple days ago -- Fulcanelli, I think -- although it didn't show the lock, it just showed part of the handle. He also said it was a mortise lock, which you can see diagrams of on the web. The keyhole is drilled into the door below the doorknob -- they aren't connected.

My guess is the key was sitting in the keyhole on the inside of the bedroom door, but Rudy took it out and put it in the keyhole on the outside of the bedroom door to lock Meredith in.

Footprints showing a pause at the door? No?

That's because you're lying to support your belief system again ;)
 
Someone provided a photo here a couple days ago -- Fulcanelli, I think -- although it didn't show the lock, it just showed part of the handle. He also said it was a mortise lock, which you can see diagrams of on the web. The keyhole is drilled into the door below the doorknob -- they aren't connected.

My guess is the key was sitting in the keyhole on the inside of the bedroom door, but Rudy took it out and put it in the keyhole on the outside of the bedroom door to lock Meredith in.

Oops, I have to make a correction, after looking at more diagrams of mortise locks. Actually, the lock and door handle can be part of the same apparatus -- the site I was looking at the other night showed how to install a mortise lock in a door that already had a knob. Here are some pictures of mortise locks:

http://www.sargentlock.com/products/products.php?item_id=18
 
Yes,
I have tried to get information on how solid the "source" of this information was, primarily from Dr. Waterbury. He has not answered me to this point. I have also gotten a good bit of feedback that it is pure unsupported rumor started by the PR machine or others involved on the innocent or FOA side.

Both Bruce and Dr. Waterbury indicated more information would be forthcoming.
Thanks RoseMontague,
I recalled that you to were interested the other day in this, but no one seemed to want to discuss it. I ask about Rudy Guede being a police informer because about 10 years ago, in fall/winter 1999/2000, I had an opportunity to "help" an undercover operation involving someone I hated immensely who was moving large quantities of "stuff". As the police did not finish the case too well due to time constraints, when the big bust went down the guy did not to jail for a long time. Eventually, he got word that I was involved, and retaliated, but I don't wanna go into that, for it's personal...

Anyways, the other day, I was reading Frank Sfarzo's latest post, wherein Luciano Aviello had mentioned that two guys, one his brother, were responsible for the death of Miss Kercher. It seems like he has been trying to bring this forward for over a year.
And some of what he says could be true, if you keep an open mind and are flexible in your own theory.
He even mentions that the murder happened while Guede was on the toilet. Guede says that's true, someone stabbed her as he used the john. He has always said this, so maybe it is true. After stabbing Miss Kercher, these 2 guys would have, in my opinion, split fast, and maybe one of them is the person that Alessandra Formica saw that night, who did not want to be seen or heard, as Frank Sfarzo writes. Maybe Guede did try to help Miss Kercher, but panicked and split too. If Guede did not stab Miss kercher, maybe he was not too bloody and did not have to shower before he went out that night clubbing. Maybe it's true Guede saw those guys later while on the town. If either of these 2 guys came back to the residence while Guede was out on the town, maybe they did try to frame Guede, for they might have thought or known that he was a police informant. Or maybe they just knew he had left evidence that he was there, so he would be busted. Heck, maybe they told him that he would die too if he ever said something to the police, and Guede, having seen them stab Miss Kercher, truely believes it.
One thing I find interesting is that Luciano mentions the knife, and also the missing keys. No one ever talks about the keys, but this guy does, interestingly.
The folks known as "Guilters" constantly mention the break-in being staged.
The "Innocents" say that Guede came in thru the window.
I feel that Guede would have left some kind of trail if he did come in the window. Since he did not, I believe that he did not come in the window, even though he most likely could have. I believe that the window was broke in the early morning hours, for there would be less chance of anyone hearing it and then calling the police. Why would you break it though? To see if anyone was home? To make it look like burglary and murder, framing Rudy Guede, the police informer?
It seems that someone possibly moved Miss Kerchers' body later on. This person also might have left a stain, possibly semen, on a pillow case found near Miss Kercher. Though this pillow case has not been tested yet, the lawyers for Raffaele Sollecito plan to ask the appeal court to do so. If the results are not Sollecito or Guede, that bodes well for these 2. The identity of the person who left the stain might revel who killed Miss Kercher. Is it from Sollecito, Guede, or maybe one of the guys that Luciano Aviello says murdered Miss Kercher? Hmmm...Either way, I do not think that it was Amanda Knox carrying around a big ol' knife for protection who stabbed Miss Kercher to her death...
RWVBWL

Ps-Here's another "informant" story:
This past Sat. evening, I saw and video'd the tail end of a car crash near my work. One of the cops who showed up is a surfer and longtime bro. I told him that the guy who was driving was somewhat staggering afterwards and mentioned he might wanna do a field sobriety test. They did and he went to jail. The next day, my bud dropped me an email saying that in his 28 years of work, with some 2000 DUI arrests under his belt, this guy had the 2nd highest BAC ever. In California, it's .08%. This guy was .317%!
I was STOKED to help get him off the streets before HE killed someone...
 
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If I recall his cleaning lady was quoted as saying she never used bleach. Steve Moore says 2 almost full bottles of bleach were found.

Raffaele's cleaning lady at the time of the murder was Rosa De Calle. You are correct that she didn't use bleach. His previous cleaning lady Marina Chiriboga, did use bleach.

There were two containers of bleach found, one full and one half full. Exactly the amount of bleach left when Marina Chiriboga stopped cleaning his place the prior summer.
 
Kestrel, what do you think glowed in Raffaele's apartment if no bleach was used in his apartment in months?
 
Luminol reacts with everything from the iron in tap water and soil to certain types of plastic residue. Without further testing, it's impossible to say that it was any particular substance.
 
Thanks for the pictures Charlie - Very sad as well, I guess with the blood on the inside door handle, the door must have been shut when the murder happened.
You wouldn't have a picture of Filomena's boyfrien that kicked open that door would you. Just want to compare his physique to that of that kick boxing RS that couldn't kick that door open.
 
This message is for anyone that posts here that is also a member of PMF. You really need to speak out about the ridiculous posts being displayed on the PMF site. Why attack Amanda's family? Why post photographs of Amanda's mother when she was young? What relevance does this have? A couple of weeks ago, comments were made on PMF about Amanda's little sisters. These are kids that are being talked about. Their facebook accounts were being looked at by members of PMF. Why in the hell were you searching for kids on facebook? No one stands up to Michael and Peggy because they don't want to be banned from the precious site. What is the matter with you people?

I understand if you feel that Amanda is guilty but the behavior on PMF that goes unchallenged is an embarrassment to anyone that is currently a member there.
 
This message is for anyone that posts here that is also a member of PMF. You really need to speak out about the ridiculous posts being displayed on the PMF site. Why attack Amanda's family? Why post photographs of Amanda's mother when she was young? What relevance does this have? A couple of weeks ago, comments were made on PMF about Amanda's little sisters. These are kids that are being talked about. Their facebook accounts were being looked at by members of PMF. Why in the hell were you searching for kids on facebook? No one stands up to Michael and Peggy because they don't want to be banned from the precious site. What is the matter with you people?

I understand if you feel that Amanda is guilty but the behavior on PMF that goes unchallenged is an embarrassment to anyone that is currently a member there.

Take it to PMF. That discussion has no place here, tyvm. :)
 
Wow..if thats true, what a bunch of creeps. Surely its only one or two, not the entire site?

Thats going too far isn't it, stalking little kids on the internet is pretty creepy.
 
Wow..if thats true, what a bunch of creeps. Surely its only one or two, not the entire site?

Thats going too far isn't it, stalking little kids on the internet is pretty creepy.

Fulcanneli on this thread moderates that site. Nothing was done to stop the behavior. That type of behavior is well received on PMF.
 
Posted at PMF, Why are you looking at a 14 year old girl's facebook page?


h9A7wa9i1K Post subject: Re: XVI. MAIN DISCUSSION, March 5 -Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:58 pm

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Location: UK This really bothers me, and since I am hoping that Friends of the Knox family read this or maybe even Curt or Cassandra read this.. can someone get the message to them that their youngest child links on her facebook page to this group

http://www.facebook.com/***********...at their youngest daughter is reading. [/I]
 
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Fulcanneli on this thread moderates that site. Nothing was done to stop the behavior. That type of behavior is well received on PMF.

This is not PMF. If you have a problem with PMF, take it up over there.

Please keep this thread on topic - which is the evidence for Amanda and Raffaele's guilt, not the discussion of what is and is not posted on PMF that you don't approve of.
 
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