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From where did Cheney get his command authority?

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According to the official conspiracy theory, Vice President Cheney should have ordered the shoot down of Flight 93, and gave other orders, too.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- As horrified Americans watched the terror attacks of September 11, 2001, unfold on their television sets, Vice President Dick Cheney directed the U.S. government's response from an emergency bunker.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/11/ar911.king.cheney/

wikipedia:
John Adams, the first Vice President, described it as "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived."

The chain of command goes from the president, to the secretary of defense down to the military commanders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Command_Authority

Even if really Cheney got the orders directly from Bush by a telephone call, was it rightfully to change the chain of command?
 
The answer is in the very link you posted.
Try clicking on Continuity of Operations Plans and lo and behold...

Other provisions of the plans included executive orders that designated certain government officials to assume Cabinet and other executive branch positions and carry out the responsibilities of the position if the primary office holders are killed. There has been a formal line of succession to the presidency since 1792 (currently found in the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, 3 U.S.C. § 19). This runs from the Vice President to the Speaker of the House of Representatives, President pro tempore of the Senate, and then through the Cabinet secretaries in a sequence specified by Congress.
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bio said:
According to the official conspiracy theory, Vice President Cheney should have ordered the shoot down of Flight 93....
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And that is right where I stopped reading.

I assume that the next words were "on Planet X" because that freaking opening is ten pounds of bull **** in a five pound sack.

Thanks for the worthless thread BIO!
 
16.5 said:
And that is right where I stopped reading.

I assume that the next words were "on Planet X" because that freaking opening is ten pounds of bull **** in a five pound sack.

Thanks for the worthless thread BIO!
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are you a truther? ;)
 
bio said:
According to the official conspiracy theory, Vice President Cheney should have ordered the shoot down of Flight 93, and gave other orders, too.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- As horrified Americans watched the terror attacks of September 11, 2001, unfold on their television sets, Vice President Dick Cheney directed the U.S. government's response from an emergency bunker.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/11/ar911.king.cheney/

wikipedia:
John Adams, the first Vice President, described it as "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived."

The chain of command goes from the president, to the secretary of defense down to the military commanders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Command_Authority

Even if really Cheney got the orders directly from Bush by a telephone call, was it rightfully to change the chain of command?
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What exactly did he direct? You are quoting a news story, in reality he wasn't doing squat. The point your making is moot, the opportunity was never there to shoot down any of the aircraft. This is all hindsight.
 
bio said:
Is your point, that Cheney was secretary of defense during 911?
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Nope.
Where did you get that idea?
Your issue apparently according to your op, is that Cheney assumed control ahead of the secretary of defense, not whether Bush was alive or not.
 
You are kidding...right? I hope so. Just in case:

The National Command Authority, if you would read your own linked wiki articles instead of dreaming about conspiracies, involves the "ultimate lawful source of military orders." That doesn't mean that other people in the government cannot give lawful military orders. Do you think that Barack Obama is sitting in the oval office dictating ground troop movements on a hourly basis in Afganistan?

Did it occur to you that government institutions change and evolve since John Adams? I can find lots of quote from famous "founding fathers" talking about how the Supreme Court has no power too. Then came judicial review. Things change.
 
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scissorhands said:
Nope.
Where did you get that idea?
Your issue apparently according to your op, is that Cheney assumed control ahead of the secretary of defense, not whether Bush was alive or not.
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Cheney was not authorized to give any orders.
 
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