The Official UK Election Thread! 6th May it is!

[Delscottio]

he he. It's getting tasty



This is after he says that the only people who vote for Labour are people who hate the English. I guess he hasnt looked at the London constituencies.

What site are you getting this from?, I would give him 20 minutes if he came up to Newcastle and the surrounding areas and spouted that rubbish. Unfortunatley for him ripping communities apart lingers in the memory.

Its good the open bigotry is coming out though.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Does getting the SNP on board mean giving in on matters related to Rolfe's pet project?

A little, but the SNP and Labour have actually been pretty close for a while, despite what you might hear.

They aren't best buddies or anything, but the SNP would rather burn down Holyrood than side with the Tories.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Do the Lib Dems still have zero BME MP's?

 

[Giggywig]

A little, but the SNP and Labour have actually been pretty close for a while, despite what you might hear.

They aren't best buddies or anything, but the SNP would rather burn down Holyrood than side with the Tories.

What if they side with nobody? What happens if the Labour + LibDem + assorted others doesn't get to a majority and the Tories can't get an alliance either?

 

[Debaser]

What if they side with nobody? What happens if the Labour + LibDem + assorted others doesn't get to a majority and the Tories can't get an alliance either?

We can have a minority government. It just means the governing party has to be more careful with what legislation it puts forward. The beartrap of a vote of no confidence in the government also looms larger.

 

[Giggywig]

We can have a minority government. It just means the governing party has to be more careful with what legislation it puts forward. The beartrap of a vote of no confidence in the government also looms larger.

How sneaky are the LibDems? Could they join Labour in exchange for proportional representation, only to turn around and side with the Tories and issue a vote of no confidence to gain more seats?

 

[andyandy]

So then............

What the ◊◊◊◊ happens now?

Broon likely to offer clegg PR plus his head
cameron likely to stick firm on PR, europe and defence

will clegg really side with the tories?

 

[Debaser]

How sneaky are the LibDems? Could they join Labour in exchange for proportional representation, only to turn around and side with the Tories and issue a vote of no confidence to gain more seats?

Quite possibly. But one of the items that seems to be part of the discussions is the length of time a coalition would work together.

And I don't think the LibDems would be thanked by the electorate for forcing them to vote again within a year or so.

 

[andyandy]

And what on earth happened to the lib dems? The rise and fall of Reggie Perrin Nick Clegg.....

 

[Giggywig]

Quite possibly. But one of the items that seems to be part of the discussions is the length of time a coalition would work together.

And I don't think the LibDems would be thanked by the electorate for forcing them to vote again within a year or so.

Interesting. Thanks

 

[Debaser]

So then............

What the ◊◊◊◊ happens now?

Broon likely to offer clegg PR plus his head
cameron likely to stick firm on PR, europe and defence

will clegg really side with the tories?

Apparently John Major has come out and said the presence of LibDems in a Conservative cabinet would be OK with him. I can't see Clegg abandoning a policy which pretty much defines LibDems simply to have his or Vince's egos stroked.

 

[Debaser]

@giggywig

Look for articles on the Scottish Parliament (or ask Rolfe, Architect and others) for how a minority party can apparently work.

 

[Small Town Jesus]

And what on earth happened to the lib dems? The rise and fall of Reggie Perrin Nick Clegg.....

For me, Clegg blew it when he announced during the campaign that he would team up with the Tories if they got the most seats.
The thought of voting LibDem and getting Cameron was enough to sway me and I'm sure many other wavering anti-Tory voters.
A huge mistake on his part.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Adding on to the good news of Griffin getting crushed in B&D, BNP presence there has been utterly wiped out, with the BNP losing all of their 12 councillors.

 

[dudalb]

I think any Liberal/Labor government would be very unstable. THere would be a lot of resentment that the party that got the most votes, The Tories, like them or not, is pretty much excluded from government.

 

[geni]

For me, Clegg blew it when he announced during the campaign that he would team up with the Tories if they got the most seats.
The thought of voting LibDem and getting Cameron was enough to sway me and I'm sure many other wavering anti-Tory voters.
A huge mistake on his part.

Nope. Lib dem vote held up as well as could be expected against the tories. Their problem was more the failure to make any ground at all against labour.

 

[Small Town Jesus]

Nope. Lib dem vote held up as well as could be expected against the tories. Their problem was more the failure to make any ground at all against labour.

And one of the reasons for that was, as I said, Clegg's comment putting off those tempted to vote tactically for the LibDems and sticking with Labour.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

I think any Liberal/Labor government would be very unstable. THere would be a lot of resentment that the party that got the most votes, The Tories, like them or not, is pretty much excluded from government.

Oi, Yank, who are Labor?!

What's the reporting on this in the States?

 

[geni]

And one of the reasons for that was, as I said, Clegg's comment putting off those tempted to vote tactically for the LibDems and sticking with Labour.

If you are in a lab vs lib dem seat and you want to keep the tories out and are a labour supporter at heart there is no valid reason to tacticaly vote lib dem. Thus your position is not supported by the availible evidence.

If your position were correct the lib dems would have lost a lot more seats.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

For me, Clegg blew it when he announced during the campaign that he would team up with the Tories if they got the most seats.
The thought of voting LibDem and getting Cameron was enough to sway me and I'm sure many other wavering anti-Tory voters.
A huge mistake on his part.

I don't recall him saying that.

I remember him saying that the party with the most votes and seats should have the chance ot form a government, and I remember him saying he was open to talks with whoever came first.

I don't remember him saying that he would absolutely go with the Tories.