The Official UK Election Thread! 6th May it is!

[Delscottio]

Looks to me the Lib Dems are damned if they jump* either way, so it looks like a minority Tory government.

Surely they can't go with the Tories, their support would hate that. They can't go with Labour due to the Gordon Brown effect (Time for Milliband to step forward?)

Pretty much a disaster for all parties, how the Tories couldn't secure a majority after Browns car crash leadership, the Lib Dems stayed around the same, so much for the debates effect, and Labour still have Brown.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Best speech of the night by Jim Fitzpatrick, who defeated Galloway:

“I have recently been the subject of a number of smears, being accused of Islamaphobia, of trying to ban traditional Muslim weddings, and of trying to close the East London Mosque. These would be laughable if they were not peddled to try and poison the minds of the Muslim community. Happily that community refused to be conned.

“The Dis-Respect party has clearly suffered a huge defeat. I am confident we can build better community relations without their polarising effect. Thankfully we don't have to hear that dreadful open-top bus anymore. I could claim that as my first achievement as MP of Poplar and Limehouse – reducing noise pollution.”

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Obviously a major guess, but could it be that in between getting his mug onto and in various media his constituents thought he was ignoring them?

Apparently so.

What a stupid tosser.

 

[jimbob]

My wife (who has been rather sad "despairing of her fellow countrymen") has just burst out laughing:

"William Hague has just used the word 'embryonic'..." (on the BBC live feed)

 

[Mojo]

Looks to me the Lib Dems are damned if they jump* either way, so it looks like a minority Tory government.

Surely they can't go with the Tories, there support would hate that. They can't go with Labour due to the Gordon Brown effect (Time for Milliband to step forward?)

Regardless of who is leader, Labour and the Lib Dems will have less than 326 seats between them, so would still need to get some of the "others" on side.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Regardless of who is leader, Labour and the Lib Dems will have less than 326 seats between them, so would still need to get some of the "others" on side.

That's easy though, the SNP and PC will side with that alliance for a start, plus the Lib Dems have an ally in the Alliance party, and there's no way the Greens will go with the Tories.

 

[Debaser]

Just reflecting on the coverage (BBC in particular) and I though I was back watching Chris Morris on The Day Today and his goading of 'politicians' resulting in his 'It's War!' declaration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3BO6GP9NMY

I think even the thickest MP wouldn't commit to forming a government on live TV, even if broadcasters had committed themselves to fourteen or fifteen hours to fill.


Also, I can never tell if the presenters are actually serious when they think we should be overwhemed by their gimmicks and graphics. Has no-one at the Beeb who's involved in producing this stuff actually seen a movie or played a video game in the last ten years? Oooohhh...he touched a screen and dragged and dropped an icon...[faints]...

 

[Giggywig]

So out of the "Others" who is likely to be in a coalition with Labour + LibDems? And what concessions would have to be made for that to happen?

 

[Ashles]

Also, I can never tell if the presenters are actually serious when they think we should be overwhemed by their gimmicks and graphics. Has no-one at the Beeb who's involved in producing this stuff actually seen a movie or played a video game in the last ten years? Oooohhh...he touched a screen and dragged and dropped an icon...[faints]...

They seem so technological backward.

They still seem to get all excited whenever a story involves a Facebook group!

 

[Debaser]

That's easy though, the SNP and PC will side with that alliance for a start, plus the Lib Dems have an ally in the Alliance party, and there's no way the Greens will go with the Tories.

Looks like a Lab-Lib pact still needs 8 others to join them, Cons needs 18 (assuming 5 sinn fein MPs stay away).

 

[MarkCorrigan]

So out of the "Others" who is likely to be in a coalition with Labour + LibDems? And what concessions would have to be made for that to happen?

People likely from the others camp to go with the Tories = the DUP (8 seats)

Those likely to ignore everyone = Sinn Fein (5 seats)

Those likely to go with Labour and/or Lib Dem:

Alliance (1 seat)
SNP (6 seats)
PC (3 seats)
SDLP (3 seats)
Greens (1 seat)


Not a sodding clue = Independent (1 seat)

ETA: Having looked up the Northern Irish Independent, it seems she used to be UUP, so maybe she would go with Labour?

 

[funk de fino]

Looks to me the Lib Dems are damned if they jump* either way, so it looks like a minority Tory government.

Surely they can't go with the Tories, there support would hate that. They can't go with Labour due to the Gordon Brown effect (Time for Milliband to step forward?)

Pretty much a disaster for all parties, how the Tories couldn't secure a majority after Browns car crash leadership, the Lib Dems stayed around the same, so much for the debates effect, and Labour still have Brown.

Maybe a rerun vote after legal actions by people who did not get to vote and Brown is dumped by Labour before that.

 

[Giggywig]

People likely from the others camp to go with the Tories = the DUP (8 seats)

Those likely to ignore everyone = Sinn Fein (5 seats)

Those likely to go with Labour and/or Lib Dem:

Alliance (1 seat)
SNP (6 seats)
PC (3 seats)
SDLP (3 seats)
Greens (1 seat)


Not a sodding clue = Independent (1 seat)

Does getting the SNP on board mean giving in on matters related to Rolfe's pet project?

 

[jimbob]

ETA: Having looked up the Northern Irish Independent, it seems she used to be UUP, so maybe she would go with Labour?

That would be Tory wouldn't it?

 

[Delscottio]

Maybe a rerun vote after legal actions by people who did not get to vote and Brown is dumped by Labour before that.

I know this is propably slightly tongue in cheek, but I would assume that only the seats affected would be re-ran?

 

[Debaser]

That would be Tory wouldn't it?

No. She jumped ship specifically because the UUP got into bed with the Tories.

 

[Delscottio]

That would be Tory wouldn't it?

I think she has previously refused to work with Tories in the past.

 

[Debaser]

Does getting the SNP on board mean giving in on matters related to Rolfe's pet project?

Well the cost of getting Plaid on-board appears to be 300 million UK pounds (isn't that what the NIrish unionists also want?).

 

[funk de fino]

he he. It's getting tasty

It is clear that Labour is not the party for English people but only Immigrants , people on benefits and Scottish , Welsh and Northern Irish.

This is after he says that the only people who vote for Labour are people who hate the English. I guess he hasnt looked at the London constituencies.

 

[mbp]

Wouldn't it be in the long-term best interest of all the small parties to actively support any government which promised a referendum on PR? And would that not make a Lab/Lib coalition which made that promise unlikely to be toppled at least until the referendum had been held?