A Flight 93 : WTC 7 connection

beachnut said:
911 truth fails again, and again, and again...

911 truth talks about a small exercise for disaster preparedness, and fails to tie it to their delusions on 911.

How does this tie to Flight 93 and WTC7?
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from the nist report on wtc 7, "at about 9:45 , a manager from the OEM ordered the evacuation of wtc 7."
fits the timeframe for 93. or could it have been an "inject" placed on the screens during a wargame exercise?
read these quotes again:

from richard zarillo's oral history:
"Maybe five, ten minutes, not even ten minutes
later, a rep from OEM came into the main room and said
we need to evacuate the building; there's a third plane
inbound. That was the only thing I really heard
because I said, Abdo, we've got to go, and we made it
down to the lobby of the building, street level, met up
with Chief Peruggia in the lobby of the building. He
said that there was no third plane but we needed to
re-establish OEM right there so we can coordinate what
was going on."


from the peruggia oral history interview:
I questioned as to what the nature of the
evacuation was. I was told that it was not because of
what was occurring across the street. No one feared
that the building was in any danger as a result of two
airplane attacks and subsequent fires, but that there
were reports of a third plane that had been hijacked.
It was unidentified, the location, and they thought it
may be coming in for an additional strike. Therefore,
they were evacuating the building."
 
It depends upon which report you go by as to the evacuation time from WTC7. FEMA put it at about 9:25 and there were some reports from the OEM staff that there was an evacuation order soon after the second plane hit (I believe that that order was for building tenants in general and some of the OEM staff took it to include themselves).

Then you add in Barry Jennings claims of walking into OEM and finding it empty with cups of steaming hot coffee lying about with his claim of walking out with the towers still standing and it's muddy enough to not know exactly when the evacuation happened.

I lean towards the latest time (NIST) for final evacuation for most of the OEM with the FEMA time and the general building evacuation times being true for some of the OEM staff in the confusion. I completely dismiss Barry Jennings time line because because it only fits in if he got to OEM before the first plane hit (at about 0810 or so provided that he was correct about how long he was in the stairwell) which is obviously not the case.
 
RedIbis said:
My comments were WTC 7 related. Your whining was off topic.
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The topic was the target for Flight 93. Your posts were about technical aspects of the collapse. OT and even more pathetic that you try and defend your childish sniping.
 
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Sam.I.Am said:
It depends upon which report you go by as to the evacuation time from WTC7. FEMA put it at about 9:25 and there were some reports from the OEM staff that there was an evacuation order soon after the second plane hit (I believe that that order was for building tenants in general and some of the OEM staff took it to include themselves).

Then you add in Barry Jennings claims of walking into OEM and finding it empty with cups of steaming hot coffee lying about with his claim of walking out with the towers still standing and it's muddy enough to not know exactly when the evacuation happened.

I lean towards the latest time (NIST) for final evacuation for most of the OEM with the FEMA time and the general building evacuation times being true for some of the OEM staff in the confusion. I completely dismiss Barry Jennings time line because because it only fits in if he got to OEM before the first plane hit (at about 0810 or so provided that he was correct about how long he was in the stairwell) which is obviously not the case.
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Mike Catalano's testimony debunks most of the crap the 911 TM throw out concerning the WTC7 evacuations and timings and size of fires.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Or the Chrysler Building? Or CitiGroup Center?

The Salomon Building (aka 7 World Trade) was merely the 3rd highest within the World Trade Center complex. It's far from being the 3rd highest in New York.
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But... but...

The Justice department stored every document ever generated by Enron and that's why they blew up the building. It was the Texas Joos. :eye-poppi
 
ElMondoHummus said:
The Salomon Building (aka 7 World Trade) was merely the 3rd highest within the World Trade Center complex. It's far from being the 3rd highest in New York.
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Even then WTC7 was barely taller than WFC1+2, for example. Ditto for other buildings in the area. This leaves any plane targetting WTC7 with precious little clearance. But, to tell the truth, it's probably silly nitpicking such a crackpot theory at all ;)
 
Senenmut said:
from the nist report on wtc 7, "at about 9:45 , a manager from the OEM ordered the evacuation of wtc 7."
fits the timeframe for 93. or could it have been an "inject" placed on the screens during a wargame exercise?
read these quotes again:

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The exercise was not a wargame. No way for anyone to know about the exercise at NRO until a reporter digs it up. The exercise does not put stuff on screens, where do you make up these delusions?

Flight 93 was not near NYC at 9:45.

What was everyone in NYC in high rises doing at 9:45? What was everyone one who understood 2 hijacked aircraft were crashed on purpose into large buildings above the 70th floors. Oops, leaves out WTC7.
 
little grey rabbit said:
Has any troother ever suggested a connection between the downed airliner in Shanksville (flight 93???) and the collapse of WTC-7?

Think how tempting the combination is, instead of heading for the White House, Flight 93 (or the drone plane pretending to be Flight 93 or whatever the latest fashion is) was instead heading for WTC7. WTC7 being the 3rd highest building after 1 and 2 would make a logical target.

Then after the "Lets Roll" (TM) heroism (or malfunction of the Flight-93 look-alike drone) this was no longer available for a strike. What to do? The explosives were all in place, with everyone running around the WTC there was no way they could be removed without people noticing.

There was only one thing to do and so Larry Silverstein decided to "pull the building".

Someone must have already come up with this, though. Any names?
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It looks to me like Flt 93 was headed to DC, and to the US Capitol building, an important national building that's a bit easier to spot on the DC skyline than the White House. 'Two hits at the heart of our economy, two hits at the heart of our government' were what they were trying for, in my opinion.

As far as intelligent Truther sites are concerned, considering the material and 'great thinkers' they've placed their faith in, intelligence has very little to do with it.
 
And as I've said before somewhere nearby:

Let's see, the climate stuff didn't catch on, the holocaust denier stuff is still going, and now you've plunged into the 9/11 stuff... what's next on your 'TrollingStudying the JREF Forum' checklist, lgr? And it's amazing you've stuck around so long, since the JREF Forum is apparently full of 'spastics'.
 
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