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The Official UK Election Thread! 6th May it is!

jimbob said:
From theyworkforyou

Voting record (from PublicWhip)



You have a problem with that? :boxedin:
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I looked into his records in detail.

You see the bit where it says he voted "Moderately" against transparent government? That means that he missed a large number of the votes. He voted AGAINST the Freedom of Information act applying to MP's. For reference, all Tories did, most of Labour did, and no Lib Dems did.

Also, you see where it says he voted moderately against gay rights? Similar situation.

On the single plus side, he IS pro choice, but he's still a horrible scumbag.
 
Reginald said:
During that last 50 years in which they have supported Labour in 1977 and discussed the possibility of something like it in 1997. That and the fact that the DEM part of Lib/dems were previously Labour?

You think that any of this pre-election rhetoric will matter when the real chance to call some shots is there?

Or do you think that a Lib/tory coalition would be more likely? Because from where I'm sitting they are a lot further from the conservatives than they are from labour by a long, long way.
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Remember the deals (or lack of them) three years ago. The LibDems would have liked to re-form their previous coalition with Labour, but Labour got fewer seats and votes than the SNP, and they recognised they couldn't simply carry on regardless. And yet they also refused to coalesce with the SNP, even though that would have kept their ministerial Daimlers.

Of course, it's arguable they thought a minority SNP government couldn't possibly go the four years. Oops on that one.

Rolfe.
 
funk de fino said:
A Standing UKIP candidate from Dumfries is running his election campaign from his second home in the Loire Valley in France.

How ironinc......
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Not Steven McKeane? He's Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale. He's the one who said he couldn't support porportional representation as that was the electoral system that brought Hitler to power.

He's a complete waste of oxygen and hasn't a clue.

Rolfe.
 
What was Griffin's answer for how long it takes to become an ethnic Brit? Something about 1208 AD??:confused:
 
LibDems allegedly spreading a rumour today that the sitting (Conservative) MP has left his wife and moved in with another man. I have no idea as to the truth of this, it will be interesting to see whether it's more than tittle-tattle.

Pretty strange behaviour during or just before an election, so I'm a bit sceptical.

Rolfe.
 
just curious- in case any of the parties fail to obtain a majority, does Elizabeth Windsor still get to decide who forms a government?
 
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KodeBlue said:
just curious- in case any of the parties fail to obtain a majority, does Elizabeth Windsor still get to decide who forms a government?
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Sort of.

It technically has to be rubber stamped by her but there isn't a chance in hell she would pick anyone other than who gets elected by the vote.

On the other hand, the electoral college voters in the USA somewhat regularly pick people other than who the State they work for voted in. It doesn't ever matter, but still....
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Is the gay demon fighting Tory old news over yonder?
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That woosh you heard, was your question rushing over my head...

Please elaborate (I am not at my best on Sunday mornings).

My favouriteTory was David Ashby who denied being a homosexual, after the revelation that he had shared a double bed with another man in a (French?) hotel.

He claimed that it was simply to save money and they slept "top to tail". (I 69on't know, but guess he might have been partially correct).

The hypocrisy was the amusing bit.

I can understand being afraid of a homophobic reaction; it was the Tory bit that got me.

Cameron, if he wanted to show leadership and mettle, should have expelled Ann Winterton when he took control, of the party, as a second set of racist jokes demonstrated that she was not suitable to represent non-white constituents, whether she apologised after a month or not. Cameron couldn't have stopped her being an MP, but he could have permanently withdrawn the whip.
 
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jimbob said:
That woosh you heard, was your question rushing over my head...

Please elaborate (I am not at my best on Sunday mornings).
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Linky.

A high-flying prospective Conservative MP, credited with shaping many of the party's social policies, founded a church that tried to "cure" homosexuals by driving out their "demons" through prayer.

Philippa Stroud, who is likely to win the Sutton and Cheam seat on Thursday and is head of the Centre for Social Justice, the thinktank set up by the former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith, has heavily influenced David Cameron's beliefs on subjects such as the family. A popular and energetic Tory, she is seen as one of the party's rising stars.

The CSJ reportedly claims to have formulated as many as 70 of the party's policies. Stroud has spoken of how her Christian faith has motivated her to help the poor and of her time spent working with the destitute in Hong Kong. On her return to Britain, in 1989, she founded a church and night shelter in Bedford, the King's Arms Project, that helped drug addicts and alcoholics. It also counselled gay, lesbian and transsexual people.
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Rolfe said:
Yup. Archaic, isn't it?

Rolfe.
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I'm all for bringing this into the 21st century by having a run-off, whereby any party getting 20% or more of the popular vote may nominate a champion to represent them in a 2, 3 or 4-way knife fight for the right to govern the nation. I believe Endemol are brainstorming some formats right now.
 
What, it all comes down to a chibbing? Brilliant! That's Scotland got the PM job sewn up (boom-boom) for the foreseeable future.....
 
So what's the JREF consensus on having a rubbish candidate for the party you want to do well on the national level? Do you go with your principles, or for the bigger picture? I'm tending toward the latter, since the only reason I'm aware of the less desirable aspects of my Lib Dem candidate is that he's the incumbent (and therefore has a voting record and stuff to be found online). For all I know the other candidates could be psychic mediums.
 
Big Les said:
So what's the JREF consensus on having a rubbish candidate for the party you want to do well on the national level? Do you go with your principles, or for the bigger picture? I'm tending toward the latter, since the only reason I'm aware of the less desirable aspects of my Lib Dem candidate is that he's the incumbent (and therefore has a voting record and stuff to be found online). For all I know the other candidates could be psychic mediums.
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No british parliamentary constituency has ever been decided by one vote so it doesn't actualy make any difference.
 
Er, well no. But by that logic there's no point voting at all. But if no-one voted, we wouldn't get very far.
 
Big Les said:
Er, well no. But by that logic there's no point voting at all.
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This is correct.

But if no-one voted, we wouldn't get very far.
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That has no impact on the fact that there isn't much in the way of a logical reason to vote if your aim to to impact the outcome.
 
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