Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

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Bruce Fisher said:
Bringing up nonsense again. I just stopped talking to you also. You have no interest in having a conversation.
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I don't think it is nonsense, Bruce. You have presented what you call your information as if it had authority. It was natural to assume you had access to the court transcripts because more than once you asserted that this or that was never presented in court. I think it is perfectly legitimate to explore the basis for your confidence and I assumed you had the supporting evidence in some shape or form. You don't.

That affects the weight we have to give to your assertions and I think it is useful to know that. I am in fact very interested in pursuing that conversation. I think you are not, though.
 
Bruce: At least I can name my source. When you go there, it will give you the source. This was determined at the trial of Rudi, in court. Everything is verified.
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Bringing up nonsense again. I just stopped talking to you also. You have no interest in having a conversation.
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If you don't want to talk to anybody why did you sign up here and post in this thread?

ETA: Looks like you've never posted anywhere but this thread.
 
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Bruce Fisher said:
You called him a "great big oaf"
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He's not the Jolly Green Giant, but he's a full grown man isn't he?

Bruce Fisher said:
If you look at the measurements like I said, putting Guede on his toes on the top row of the bars, he can reach the latch with his hand. He opened the window and he dragged himself in.
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I disagree. You don't understand how the window works, their latches are not like ours. And as an aside, what's he holding himself up with...he's on his toes (in your scenario), but he's no's not just balancing there...he has to be holding onto something with his other hand...what, the ledge?
 
Bruce Fisher said:
I know plenty about the Kercher lawyer. I know that he was sitting with his buddy Mignini when Mignini was convicted. I have no reason to discuss him further. He has no bearing on this case. I was informing Dan that he was directing his anger at the wrong people.
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You never answered my question. Were you in court Bruce?
 
tsig said:
If you don't want to talk to anybody why did you sign up here and post in this thread?

ETA: Looks like you've never posted anywhere but this thread.
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I talk to a lot of people. I just can't talk to Fiona anymore. I ran out of Tylenol.
We were having a great conversation about the window then it once again digressed into a useless argument.

Where else would you like me to post? I have a blog, post there occasionally. I wrote a website expressing my opinion.
 
Fulcanelli said:
How...the shutters were closed?
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I believe the shutters were open. Even if they were closed, they didn't latch. Guede could have climbed up the bars and opened them and jumped right back down to the ground. This would have taken him 10 seconds.
 
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Fulcanelli said:
Not on the JREF she hasn't, but she has elsewhere (long enough to know better)...and she is rather active on Bruce's site...she's one of those kinds of people Bruce and his site attracts.
Hi, just popping in for a sec (I know how you like me to keep you apprised of my current status, Fulcanelli). Just to clarify, I have never posted on Bruce's site, although I do admire it. You are more likely to find me on the West Seattle Herald and the examiner.

"Long enough to know better" about what?
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I don't need you to keep me appraised, I just need to flick up any Examiner or Beast comment section and I know exactly where you're spamming at any given moment.

The poster Mary on Bruce's isn't You then? How unfortunate his site and readers are being denied your charming presence.
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Bruce Fisher said:
The appeal will highlight the complete incompetence of the investigators. The DNA will be challenged.

There is a new witness, and there is more to come about Rudy. I do not know the details of this new information. We will have to wait for the appeal.
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If there was such incompetence, why was it not highlighted in the trial, why wait for the appeal to do so?

Jam tomorrow?
 
capealadin said:
Bruce: Will you please explain to me how, considering Amanda lived in the cottage, ONLY ONE FINGERPRINT of hers was found on a glass in the kitchen, and NOT one fingerprint of hers anywhere else??? Not even her bedroom?
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On the TV crime shows, people always seem to leave good, identifiable fingerprints. In the real world, it takes the right combination of surface material, oils or other substances on the fingers, and touching an object so the print is not smeared. Only then do you get a print that can be matched to a person.

Also, crime scene technicians only look for fingerprints in places that may have been related to the crime. For example, in the room where the victim was found, in places where blood was found, objects such as a glass on the counter likely to have been used by recent visitors. The surfaces in Amanda's bedroom were probably not tested.
 
Fulcanelli said:
He's not the Jolly Green Giant, but he's a full grown man isn't he?



I disagree. You don't understand how the window works, their latches are not like ours. And as an aside, what's he holding himself up with...he's on his toes (in your scenario), but he's no's not just balancing there...he has to be holding onto something with his other hand...what, the ledge?
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I have many close up photographs of the latch. I know how it works.

His body weight would have been pressed up against the wall. This would hardly require a balancing act.

A slight majority of the ledge was free from glass, even if he did put his hand on the ledge, he most likely would not have moved any glass. We are not talking about large piles of glass on the ledge.
 
Fiona said:
So you do not have any practical access to the transcripts any more than I do? I wonder who does? No matter. You are being fed your information by a mysterious stranger. It does not seem to be very good information, from what we have seen so far. Since you cannot make the evidence availble, there is no reason to accept that it is better than what we can all share, with all its limitations. I do wonder why you are allowing yourself to be used in this way: but that is of course your choice.

Of course I fully accept that you do not care about your credibility with me (or with anyone else IMO).
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Chris Mellas is in Italy at the moment ;)
 
Bruce Fisher said:
I believe the shutters were open. Even if they were closed, they didn't latch. Guede could have climbed up the bars and opened them and jumped right back down to the ground. This would have taken him 10 seconds.
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Opened them how? They were wedged shut with nothing on the outside to grip. This is why Massei writes in his report a tool was required.

And your 'belief' they were open means nothing. Some people believe in the tooth fairy. It's been established, in court, they were shut. Witness testimony and the physical evidence makes it so. I'll take that over your 'belief'.

Why would someone bother climbing up all that way to try and open outer shutters in any case, when they'd have no idea if the inner shutters would be open or not? If closed, the whole operation would be futile and one would have just taken a huge risk of injury or being caught for nothing.
 
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