The Freeman Movement and England

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Way to go especially
I didnt think even you could debunk yourself in one post

You recommend a book by Sir Edward Coke
Sir Edward Coke (pronounced "Cook") (1 February 1552 – 3 September 1634) was a seventeenth-century English jurist and Member of Parliament whose writings on the common law were the definitive legal texts for nearly 150 years. Born into a family of minor Norfolk gentry, Coke traveled to London as a young man to make his living as a barrister.
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So you accept the word of an MP and barrister??
Now Im confused

JB/ASKY
 
I accept the word of any man who defends the Rule of Law. The Common Law. As Coke and many others did. Since it was because of men such as Coke we finally had the Bill of Rights. From a time when men of integrity existed in Parliament. Not found there today.

But do your reading and then come back. Since this is not an argument but a reply to your own request for reading material. I have many other works you might read to increase your education on the law of this land. But start there if you please. I have answered you as a start.

jargon buster said:
Way to go especially
I didnt think even you could debunk yourself in one post

You recommend a book by Sir Edward Coke


So you accept the word of an MP and barrister??
Now Im confused

JB/ASKY
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Especially said:
I waste no energy on frivolous posts.
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I, on the other hand, do, which is why I keep replying to yours. But the very serious point is that your entire argument is an appeal to your own authority, and I am countering this by the argument - ad hominem, to be sure, but in response to an appeal to one's own authority the ad hominem argument becomes informally valid - that your level of ignorance of the most basic common knowledge is so extraordinarily vast that your opinion cannot be considered to be an informed one on any subject.

Dave
 
Your post is irrelevant to the subject of this thread. Unless you post on the topic of this thread I have no energy to discuss further with you. I have already advised on reading material and am prepared to discuss the law of this land with anyone who is willing to discuss it.

- return to sender -

Dave Rogers said:
I, on the other hand, do, which is why I keep replying to yours. But the very serious point is that your entire argument is an appeal to your own authority, and I am countering this by the argument - ad hominem, to be sure, but in response to an appeal to one's own authority the ad hominem argument becomes informally valid - that your level of ignorance of the most basic common knowledge is so extraordinarily vast that your opinion cannot be considered to be an informed one on any subject.

Dave
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The England where Especially writes "checks" for amounts in dollars.
 
Oh, not this again. Got up in the morning for another round of time-wasting once your mum's off to work? Sorry, you're only fun for one day.

Especially, I think we've already quite sufficiently debunked you on this one. You're unemployed, carless, and live with your parents, so you interact with none of the laws you claim to flout. You are unable to provide any evidence that BMOTL does anything other than send its practitioners to jail after getting them fined. And you exacerbate this by avoiding all direct questions in favor of posting more reams of blather about how you think the world _should_ work, while ignoring the simple reality that it works completely opposite to how you feel.

I'm completely in favour of you being an advocate for BMOTL, honestly, because there's no chance that anyone would read any of the rubbish you posted and decide to sign up for it -- and that's my only real concern here. I don't care if I ever convince you; you aren't relevant. It's only whether others reading the thread know the truth, and I think it's pretty obvious right now that the only truth about BMOTL is "how to screw up your own life".
 
Dave Rogers said:
I think it's something to do with the Earth not rotating because airliners go backwards, isn't it?

Dave
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Somehow, I missed that thread. Reading it now with glee. I think we have son of realistice in the making here.

Especially may become legend.
 
D'rok,

I think you have misunderstood the Bill of Rights. And the reason is rather simple. You have not read it, have you ?

If you read it you will discover -

1. The Rights refered to are already ancient in 1689

2. Those Rights already existed in the Law of the Land

3. They were formally recognised in 1689 and had existed (as the text says) for many centuries

4. The Parliament is bound by those Rights

5. Forever

6. That 'deal' exists between all rulers, all parliaments, and the people. As is clearly stated in the Bill of Rights. A document which, as we agree, is a Statute. And is binding on ALL Parliaments and ALL rulers.

I hope this helps. The Laws are one thing (and the Rights which flow from them). And that Statute (1689) is another.

Simple, yes ?



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Especially likes statutes too. Like this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689
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'Especially' in the High Court:

Especially - M'lord have you had the opportunity to watch the DVD of the Matrix I filed as evidence?

Mr Justice Cocklecarrot - I did

Especially - I refer M'lords attention to scene 4 (23.14 seconds from the start) where Morpheus informs Neo the world as he knew it is an 'virtual reality' illusion. M'lord it is my submission that this is prima facie evidence that all that you believe to be the law is a lie & you are a bloodline reptilian.

Mr Justice Cocklecarrot - This man is a maniac. Tipstaff get him out of my sight.

Especially - No, we haven't discussed the John Harris Youtube clips yet......


etc, etc, etc

With apologies to Private Eye
 
- return to sender -


gtm said:
'Especially' in the High Court:

Especially - M'lord have you had the opportunity to watch the DVD of the Matrix I filed as evidence?

Mr Justice Cocklecarrot - I did

Especially - I refer M'lords attention to scene 4 (23.14 seconds from the start) where Morpheus informs Neo the world as he knew it is an 'virtual reality' illusion. M'lord it is my submission that this is prima facie evidence that all that you believe to be the law is a lie & you are a bloodline reptilian.

Mr Justice Cocklecarrot - This man is a maniac. Tipstaff get him out of my sight.

Especially - No, we haven't discussed the John Harris Youtube clips yet......


etc, etc, etc

With apologies to Private Eye
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Once is not a issue...twice is ok...3 times and your out (so to speak); enough with the "return to sender" (and the variations) - see Rule 6.
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Especially said:
D'rok,

I think you have misunderstood the Bill of Rights. And the reason is rather simple. You have not read it, have you ?

If you read it you will discover -

1. The Rights refered to are already ancient in 1689

2. Those Rights already existed in the Law of the Land

3. They were formally recognised in 1689 and had existed (as the text says) for many centuries

4. The Parliament is bound by those Rights

5. Forever

6. That 'deal' exists between all rulers, all parliaments, and the people. As is clearly stated in the Bill of Rights. A document which, as we agree, is a Statute. And is binding on ALL Parliaments and ALL rulers.

I hope this helps. The Laws are one thing (and the Rights which flow from them). And that Statute (1689) is another.

Simple, yes ?
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Parliament enacts statutes. Parliament is not bound by the statutes it enacts, because it can amend them or repeal them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty

As our new friend Lallante so kindly reminded you here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5870219#post5870219
 
Just as a point of information, repeatedly quoting other people's posts and typing "return to sender" or similar instead of addressing the points made therein, is likely to earn you another holiday from the forum.
 
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