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Limbaugh gets sick of Beck getting all the attention, so...

I find Rush distasteful myself, however, I don't suspect that he intends this comment literally or that he intends his audience to take it literally.

It's more of a comment along the lines of "haha, it's cold today, where's that global warming" which he and his audience both know doesn't actually prove anything, but they can still chuckle over it. He doesn't really go for the "hey maybe God's angry" thing as an actual argument... He doesn't talk about God much in his monologues. That's Glenn Beck's thing. Rush's standard line is just "this is stupid and won't work because liberals thought of it." or "liberals are stupid because they keep proposing things that won't work".
 
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It's more of a comment along the lines of "haha, it's cold today, where's that global warming" which he and his audience both know doesn't actually prove anything
It's anecdotal, but I can guarantee that there is at least one of his audience who doesn't know that doesn't actually prove anything. There are several members of this board who don't know that.
 
Gotcha. So when the death panels come into effect, you'll let us know, right?

Nice to see you took the effort to completely miss the point. I'm sure that took a lot of work.

And the next time there are actual changes in the world the instant the president puts his pen down from signing a bill, you'll let us know, right?
 
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I happened to catch a few minutes of Limbaugh, in a couple of segments today, and I concluded that the man is genuinely, truly, literally, crazy.

I've never thought that way about Limbaugh before. When he was first on I liked him and found him entertaining, but I have concluded that he has quite literally gone nuts. Here are the things he said today that made me conclude that.

First, I caught him talking about President Obama as a "Chicago style thug", which is ok. Nothing nuts so far. He was talking about how Obama and his gang of thugs had done all sorts of mean nasty things, like leaking his senate opponent's divorce papers. I don't know if that, or some of the related allegations are in the least bit true. They could be, although I doubt that it's quite the way it was presented. So far, nothing nuts. Then, however, he went into wackoland.

Among the things that Obama and his cronies had done was engineered the collapse of the US economy in the fall of 2008 so that he could get elected. Rush was serious, or at least he sounded serious to me. The economic collapse was a Democratic Party conspiracy, aimed at getting Barack Obama into the White House.

I was amazed. It got me to thinking, too. Why would anyone bother with such a conspiracy? Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that such a conspiracy existed. It's aim was to bring their guy to the White House. However, the current occupant of the White House (George W. Bush) was powerless to get in their way. So, let's examine the premise. The conspirators desperately want the White House. They are willing to sink the US economy in order to get it. They have the ability to make that happen. However, the actual occupant of the White House doesn't have the power to stop it.

Why bother with a highly destructive conspiracy to gain power, when apparently, there isn't a whole lot of power involved, since there wasn't enough power to prevent the conspiracy from succeeding. It's classic conspiracy theory stuff, and every bit as nutty.

Even that I could brush off because, although nutty, you could just say that it's plain old knee jerk blame the other side for everything talk. It's not so much nutty as mindless. However, later in the show, a caller called in an asked, since GM was controlled by Obama (and the unions, which were all Obama people), would buying a car from GM be equivalent to a campaign contribution to Obama, and therefore would it be wise to avoid buying GM cars?

To my astonishment, Limbaugh said yes, and said that the same thing was true about Chrysler.

So, here's uber-patriot Rush Limbaugh encouraging his audience to buy foreign cars, sinking American industry. (Fords were apparently ok, since they hadn't taken the money.) That's crazy talk.

Lately, Mark Steyn has been guest hosting a lot. I've been liking Steyn a lot. He's witty, and not too crazy. He does a good job of bashing leftist excess, while not sounding like a wing nut. Frankly, he reminds me of the Rush from two decades ago. Sure, he's predictably conservative, and I disagree with him on many topics, but he isn't so loony about it. I think Rush should step away from the microphone, and go into a very long, and much needed, vacation. Thanks, Rush, for the memories, but it really is time to move on.
 
How much you want to bet he never said that?
I mean, Limbaugh.

So far all the loopy quotes I have read from him dissolve when I track down the source and the context.

Update:

He said "God may have replied". And if you listen to the whole bit, he is clearly goofing on Obama and the healthcare bill in a tounge-in-cheek manner. He sais "I hope that... and "perhaps...." He never says he is sure God is angry about the health care.

Yes, it makes me mad at how stupid people are. But it is the liberals who prey on this man like a pack of dogs for any sound byte they can feed on.

Once again, the leftist media takes something out of context from Limbaugh and the faithful liberals get their giggles. I think it is pathetic and low.
 
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He said "God may have replied". And if you listen to the whole bit, he is clearly goofing on Obama and the healthcare bill in a tounge-in-cheek manner. He sais "I hope that... and "perhaps...." He never says he is sure God is angry about the health care.

Yes, it makes me mad at how stupid people are. But it is the liberals who prey on this man like a pack of dogs for any sound byte they can feed on.

Hm... no source and cherry picked quotes. Neat.

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You know, a couple of days after the health care bill had been signed into law Obama ran around all over the country saying, "Hey, you know, I'm looking around. The earth hadn't opened up. There's no Armageddon out there. The birds are still chirping." I think the earth has opened up. God may have replied. This volcano in Iceland has grounded more airplanes -- airspace has more affected -- than even after 9/11 because of this plume, because of this ash cloud over Northern and Western Europe. At the Paris airport they're telling people to head to the train station to catch trains out of France, and when people get to the train station they're telling people, "There aren't any seats until at least April 22nd," basically a week from now. It's got everybody in a shutdown. Earth has opened up. I don't know whether it's a rebirth or Armageddon. Hopefully it's a rebirth, God speaking.
 
I find Rush distasteful myself, however, I don't suspect that he intends this comment literally or that he intends his audience to take it literally.

But here's the problem: it doesn't matter what he intends. Rush is in a no-lose situation.

He can say anything he wants, no matter how outlandish. In that case, there are two outcomes

1) A non-zero fraction of his audience DOES take him literally, at which point, he has scored with them.
2) With those that don't take him literally, it's outlandish enough that he has plausible deniability, so they brush it off as "not serious." Like those who have defended him in this thread.

What's the downside of saying it? None.

He's completely playing off the zealousness of his audience, and no one is calling him on it. It's a game he can't lose.
 
But here's the problem: it doesn't matter what he intends. Rush is in a no-lose situation.

He can say anything he wants, no matter how outlandish. In that case, there are two outcomes

1) A non-zero fraction of his audience DOES take him literally, at which point, he has scored with them.
2) With those that don't take him literally, it's outlandish enough that he has plausible deniability, so they brush it off as "not serious." Like those who have defended him in this thread.

What's the downside of saying it? None.

He's completely playing off the zealousness of his audience, and no one is calling him on it. It's a game he can't lose.
Don't forget the Benjamins ...
 
How much you want to bet he never said that?
I mean, Limbaugh.

So far all the loopy quotes I have read from him dissolve when I track down the source and the context.
Update:

He said "God may have replied". And if you listen to the whole bit, he is clearly goofing on Obama and the healthcare bill in a tounge-in-cheek manner. He sais "I hope that... and "perhaps...." He never says he is sure God is angry about the health care.

Yes, it makes me mad at how stupid people are. But it is the liberals who prey on this man like a pack of dogs for any sound byte they can feed on.

Once again, the leftist media takes something out of context from Limbaugh and the faithful liberals get their giggles. I think it is pathetic and low.
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<SNIP> Over the top rhetoric removed
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Don't take anything I said out of context. It is pathetic and low.
 
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Hm... no source and cherry picked quotes. Neat.

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I don't see how the original is anything but one of his satires... It looks like one of his blunt satires to me, serving pretty much the same thing all of his satires do; playing on his audience base.
 
Gosh, thanks for your unwarranted edits, Locknar, because you've only proven my point: Just because someone uses weasel words like 'may' 'perhaps' 'some say' and 'I hope', it doesn't automatically make a set of statements inoffensive. Do you get it, Bill Thompson?

Because the rightist media would never take something out of context, like comparing the hydrogen-atom-based Nuclear Summit symbol to the flags of Muslim nations, or comparing Obama/Biden to Osama Bin Laden and drawing a connection because they have similar letters, even though Osama doesn't spell his name in English letters, but Arabic ones.

Oh no, they never do that.

But Rush has a history of putting his foot in his mouth, and the media reports it. Speaking of Biden, HE has a history of putting HIS foot in HIS mouth, albeit in a stupid rather than malicious way, but the media reports HIS gaffes just as happily. But you didn't mention anything like that. Speaking of taking something out of context.
 
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Yes, it was during one of his at least two attempts at moving to TV.

Since you are making judgements without being informed, let me inform you. The schtick went like this:

Limbaugh: Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?

At which point, he shows a picture of then 13 year-old Chelsea Clinton.

Hell of a guy, that Limbaugh.

Well, I have to challenge you on the authenticity of this one, especially since you keep bringing it up. Please provide a source for your claim. After spending some time researching your claim, it seems you are a victim of left-wing propaganda. It seems clear this is a vicious attempt by Molly Ivins and Al Franken to smear Rush because of an innocent mistake by a technician for which Rush immediately apologized for.

Most sources I've read seem to corroborate this version of events..

http://lyingliar.com/?p=17

I do hope you apologize and stop spreading the vicious left-wingnut propaganda.
 
I happened to catch a few minutes of Limbaugh, in a couple of segments today, and I concluded that the man is genuinely, truly, literally, crazy.

I've never thought that way about Limbaugh before. When he was first on I liked him and found him entertaining, but I have concluded that he has quite literally gone nuts.
You think he believes what he says? I think he's playing his audience for all he can get away with. He's the master.
 
Well, I have to challenge you on the authenticity of this one, especially since you keep bringing it up. Please provide a source for your claim. After spending some time researching your claim, it seems you are a victim of left-wing propaganda. It seems clear this is a vicious attempt by Molly Ivins and Al Franken to smear Rush because of an innocent mistake by a technician for which Rush immediately apologized for.

Most sources I've read seem to corroborate this version of events..

http://lyingliar.com/?p=17

I do hope you apologize and stop spreading the vicious left-wingnut propaganda.

Hey, thanks for setting the record straight. Mr. Limbaugh had intended to say "out: cute dog. In: cute kid." Of course, he did, because Mr. Limbaugh is always talking about things like a cute kid in the White House. It is practically a trademark shtick - the way he says nice things about relatives of Bill Clinton. His audience expects him to comment on how President Bush had a pet dog and that dog was no longer in the White House.
 
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You think he believes what he says? I think he's playing his audience for all he can get away with. He's the master.

Maybe. It's hard to say. I know that when I heard him say don't buy GM or Chrysler cars I was waiting for some indication that he didn't believe it. It was a bit hard to tell.
 
It was on Rush's TV show so it is going back a very long ways. For TV attacks against kids I guess there is no statute of limitations.

I've found it got extended once I had a kid of my own.

Yea, having kids of your own gives you a new perspective on topics such as abortion, especially partial-birth abortion, and other vile left-wing dogma. Such as...want to help protect your kids from a home invasion by having a firearm? Many places where the lefties won't let you.

As a father of 4 kids, my perspective changed from a young starry-eyed liberal to a staunch conservative over a few decades. Older and wiser.
 
It seems clear this is a vicious attempt by Molly Ivins and Al Franken to smear Rush because of an innocent mistake by a technician for which Rush immediately apologized for.

First of all, that claim doesn't even make sense. The show wasn't live. It was pre-recorded. If there had been an innocent mistake during taping, it would have been rectified in editing. Plus, what Limbaugh said, if intended for the dog, would have had absolutely no point.

Second of all, is there anything you would actually accept as proof that it was intentional and not a mistake (assuming the illogical nature of the claim, as I pointed out above, didn't do the trick)?
 
Yea, having kids of your own gives you a new perspective on topics such as abortion, especially partial-birth abortion, and other vile left-wing dogma. Such as...want to help protect your kids from a home invasion by having a firearm? Many places where the lefties won't let you.

As a father of 4 kids, my perspective changed from a young starry-eyed liberal to a staunch conservative over a few decades. Older and wiser.

Oh, I'm sorry. I mistook you for someone who was interested in discussion.
 
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As a father of 4 kids, my perspective changed from a young starry-eyed liberal to a staunch conservative over a few decades. Older and wiser.
Oh, I'm sorry. I mistook you for someone who was interested in discussion.
Upchurch, it could happen to you*.

Consider this: in 1988, Rick Perry was a Democrat. ;)

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*Whether it does or not has too many variables to safely predict, but I'll wager on "it won't" as of this morning.
 
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