Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

[shuttlt]

Anyway, average male height in Italy is 5 ft 9+1⁄2 in (Wikipedia). Rudy is a sliver over average height.

 

[Dan O.]

Don't try and defend him, he had no idea how tall Italian basketball guards are.

I posted an answer for an average guard. If you want to provide evidence that Italians are a diminutive people go ahead.

Finding a published record of Rudy's hight would be a better path to resolving this issue.

 

[Agatha]

It's been shown to you, Dan O, in post 7987. He's 179cm tall according to his ID card.

 

[Jungle Jim]

The main problem I have defending it is lack of the information he has regarding six serious crimes in 33 days. He refers to an article that does not list the details of these crimes, even if there are a couple of crimes that we are already aware of through other sources. I also don't like the headline of that Express article, grammatically confusing to me and indicative of sloppy editing. It is also confusing to me as to the source of the information, whether from Amanda's lawyers or independently verified. Perhaps more information will be coming soon on this or Dr. Waterbury will take up the issue and provide more details.

I would also like to know the source for the statement the opens the article written by Bob Graham in the Express.co.uk article that Waterbury links to:

LAWYERS appealing against the murder conviction of Amanda Knox have been told they can’t use shocking new evidence.

I haven't been able to find any reference to this bit of news. The shocking new evidence is the claim of "six serious crimes over 33 days before the killing."

 

[shuttlt]

I'd like to know what these crimes are. It's not the ones we were aware of previously broken down into seperate offences is it?

 

[Dan O.]

It's been shown to you, Dan O, in post 7987. He's 179cm tall according to his ID card.

Thanks, I've had Kermit on ignore for some time. I will accept 179 (source) unless a better measurement was made in 2007/8. Now, do we have a hight for the lawyer for comparison.

 

[Jungle Jim]

Thanks, I've had Kermit on ignore for some time. I will accept 179 unless a better measurement was made in 2007/8. Now, do we have a hight for the lawyer for comparison.

That's big of you. Normally when people fill out forms for an ID they write in their height and weight. They are not measured. Presumably, Rudy knew his height.

 

[shuttlt]

I would hope whoever aranged for the whole lawyer climbing up to the window thing made a not of his height, otherwise it was just a photo op.

 

[odeed]

I posted an answer for an average guard. If you want to provide evidence that Italians are a diminutive people go ahead.

Finding a published record of Rudy's hight would be a better path to resolving this issue.

Go look for evidence yourself, it might be enlightening.

Thanks, I've had Kermit on ignore for some time. I will accept 179 unless a better measurement was made in 2007/8. Now, do we have a hight for the lawyer for comparison.

You quoted Rudy Guede height in your comment #7992, so you cannot say you did not know what his height was.

 

[Amazer]

I think the point Dr. Waterbury is trying to make is that there were crimes, these crimes were ignored (because he was a police informant), and that is why he got a mitigated sentence (no criminal record). I am willing to concede that he may have information on this that is not public at this point (which was my point). But I don't like being accused of simple mud-slinging. Oh well.

That maybe Dr. Waterbury's point... but he needs evidence to back up his accusations. In the complete article I didn't see a single shred of evidence. That doesn't mean Dr. Waterbury doesn't have evidence. Perhaps he does, but till the time that he actually shows such evidence the only available course of action for me is to assume that such evidence does not exist.

 

[Dan O.]

I don't accept anything Fulcanelli says until it's backed by a source. In the post I quoted, Fulcanelli says he's not sure and since the measurements were in english units it was obviously a second hand source if not a fabrication or guess.

 

[odeed]

I don't accept anything Fulcanelli says until it's backed by a source. In the post I quoted, Fulcanelli says he's not sure and since the measurements were in english units it was obviously a second hand source if not a fabrication or guess.

But you based your answer on that measurement.

 

[Fulcanelli]

I don't accept anything Fulcanelli says until it's backed by a source. In the post I quoted, Fulcanelli says he's not sure and since the measurements were in english units it was obviously a second hand source if not a fabrication or guess.

Oh for crying out loud, Kermit posted his ID card which has his height on it...here!:

If only you exercised the same standard of evidence you demand of others when you make your own unsupported assertions. Hypocrisy much?

 

[Dan O.]

But you based your answer on that measurement.

I based my answer on Agatha's post that I was replying to. After that reply, I did a little more searching and found the source that I added to the reply. I had not even checked at that time to see that Fulcanelli guess was in the same range.

 

[Fulcanelli]

I based my answer on Agatha's post that I was replying to. After that reply, I did a little more searching and found the source that I added to the reply. I had not even checked at that time to see that Fulcanelli guess was in the same range.

Maybe then in future you'll check, before putting big mouth into gear and putting the proverbial foot into it.

Folks, let's keep the tone civil, please. Thank you so much.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady

 

[shuttlt]

This just in from CBS:

Add to that the fact that in the past two years, Mignini has hurled satanic charges against 23 people.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20003238-504083.html?tag=latest

Presumably any charges that Mignini has brought against anyone are a matter of public record in Italy? IF this is anything other than made up, why are we only hearing about this two years in to the case? Is it just some generous counting based on the Monster of Florence business?

 

[Fulcanelli]

CBS is a comic.

 

[Fiona]

It would be nice to see some facts in that article, all in all

 

[Fulcanelli]

It would be nice to see some facts in that article, all in all

You'll never see any facts there, just assertions by Douglas Preston, Mario Spezi and Paul Ciolino, who for some reason are taken by CBS as primary sources who never have to cite any actual evidence to back up their claims. They may as well rename it the 'Preston and Ciolino Express'.

The only new development, is that after the court's decision not to press charges, Mario Spezi appears to have found it safe enough to 'come out' and promote his vendetta in public and put himself on the record, rather then being the invisible puppet master (the one who's had his hand up Preston's backside to move the mouth) he's been these last two years.

 

[stilicho]

IF this is anything other than made up, why are we only hearing about this two years in to the case? Is it just some generous counting based on the Monster of Florence business?

Even if it were true there would be no bearing on AK's appeal.

By the way, if the defendants in the cited case had been impoverished, how could they afford champagne?