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WTC Steel

switchpoint

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This really doesn't have much to do with the conspiracy angle, however, it does serve to answer some of those that insist that all the steel from the WTC towers was shipped off the China the next day.

But I am sure someone is going to claim its all fake unless I can show the serial numbers.

Anyway, these are photos taken in the area I am from when the steel was being moved to an Industrial Museum. Thought people would like to see them.

http://www.mcall.com/photos/all-5steel-041410-pictures,0,149513.photogallery
 
I'm sure they scrubbed the Mountain DEW off all those pieces. And the explosives dust. And the dustified other steel.
 
Yeah, I'm sure they also scraped off all the "place thermite here" paint marks.

I sure wish We Are Clowns had shown up with all those former steelworkers saluting the steel as it went by. That would have been fun to watch.
 
This really doesn't have much to do with the conspiracy angle, however, it does serve to answer some of those that insist that all the steel from the WTC towers was shipped off the China the next day.

But I am sure someone is going to claim its all fake unless I can show the serial numbers.

Anyway, these are photos taken in the area I am from when the steel was being moved to an Industrial Museum. Thought people would like to see them.

http://www.mcall.com/photos/all-5steel-041410-pictures,0,149513.photogallery

the problem is, that only 5 or 6 pieces of the core columns of 1, 2, which stood in the impact and fire floors above, were recovered. NIST found no evidence, that these columns became hotter than 600 C.

the problem is, that NIST had not a single piece of steel from the WTC-7 and had to spin a scenario, which is even for Dr. Greening not consistent which videos and photo-evidences.
 
the problem is, that only 5 or 6 pieces of the core columns of 1, 2, which stood in the impact and fire floors above, were recovered. NIST found no evidence, that these columns became hotter than 600 C.

the problem is, that NIST had not a single piece of steel from the WTC-7 and had to spin a scenario, which is even for Dr. Greening not consistent which videos and photo-evidences.
And not one shred of evidence has even been produced that shows the collapses were anything other then fire induced. Yet you believe in CD, why?
 
the problem is, that only 5 or 6 pieces of the core columns of 1, 2, which stood in the impact and fire floors above, were recovered. NIST found no evidence, that these columns became hotter than 600 C.

Thats all they chose because it is all they could identify. Read NISTNCSTAR1-3chaps. Then come back.

the problem is, that NIST had not a single piece of steel from the WTC-7 and had to spin a scenario, which is even for Dr. Greening not consistent which videos and photo-evidences.

Appeal to authority noted.
 
the problem is, that only 5 or 6 pieces of the core columns of 1, 2, which stood in the impact and fire floors above, were recovered. NIST found no evidence, that these columns became hotter than 600 C.

the problem is, that NIST had not a single piece of steel from the WTC-7 and had to spin a scenario, which is even for Dr. Greening not consistent which videos and photo-evidences.

Actually, as far as core columns go, NIST found none that reached temps above 250C. They worked off of assumption after that, which is exactly what they did for the steel they didn't have when coming up with their preposterous WTC 7 hypothesis.
 
I think I see a subway grating in one of those pictures.....so that proves that those trucks are really jet powered.:)

And for Jam's benefit here's a rare picture of a NYC subway car that got sucked up in the recovery steel from the pile and on it's way to China.

 
Actually, as far as core columns go, NIST found none that reached temps above 250C. They worked off of assumption after that, which is exactly what they did for the steel they didn't have when coming up with their preposterous WTC 7 hypothesis.

Yeah, that preposterous notion that if you let a building burn for 5 or 6 or 7 hours that it may fall down. Totally off the wall. What were people thinking?

Of course the only "reasonable" explanation is that super secret black ops government ninja agents snuck into the building, planted noiseless explosives, remote controlled two passenger planes into the adjacent buildings, which were also planted with explosives, blew up those buildings with half the people in them killing thousands, but then waited until building 7 was completely evacuated, then had the fire chief call the building owner who then gave the order to "pull it", which, as we all know, is super secret black ops government ninja agents language for "blow it up", and then just to make sure that this all remained top secret, hush-hush, the building owner told everyone in a TV interview that he ordered the building "pulled".

Yeah, that's a lot less preposterous. ;)
 
Yeah, that preposterous notion that if you let a building burn for 5 or 6 or 7 hours that it may fall down. Totally off the wall. What were people thinking?

Good question since:

The collapse of WTC 7 is the first known instance of a tall building brought down primarily by uncontrolled fires.
 
Actually, as far as core columns go, NIST found none that reached temps above 250C. They worked off of assumption after that, which is exactly what they did for the steel they didn't have when coming up with their preposterous WTC 7 hypothesis.

I suggest you read the material I mentioned, but this time read it for comprehension. They assumed nothing.
 
do you think, that was a grave problem?

If there were no identifying marks on it how were they supposed to identify it? They only used what they could positively identify, anything else was worthless for this part.

There is no way you read those chapters in that time. You are a waste of time.
 
Good question since:

So if a not so tall building collapsed, in less time, while being fought, that would mean a tall building could in fact collapse in a longer fire which was unfought?

Or does fire not affect steel?
 
The collapse of WTC 7 is the first known instance of a tall building brought down primarily by uncontrolled fires.

Just a little logic test here. Lets take out one word and see what happens:

"The collapse of WTC 7 is the first know instance of a building brought down by uncontrolled fires".

Well, we know that's not true. So it must have something then to do with the height. What, in particular, makes "tall" buildings impervious to damage from fire? Is it something to do with gravity?
 
Anybody else thinking the towers may have been felled by an orbital kryptonite weapon?
 
Actually, as far as core columns go, NIST found none that reached temps above 250C.
Did you forget this part?

"It must be recognized that the examined locations represent less than one percent of the core columns located in the fire-exposed region, and thus these temperatures cannot be considered representative of general conditions in the core."
NIST NCSTAR 1-3 6.8.6
 

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