9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Cuddles]

Pleases stay on topic. For those who may have forgotten, the topic is the holocaust, not the US, Israel, Russia or Jews in general.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Cuddles

 

[Uzzy]

So, 9/11 guy, SS-Unterscharfuehrer Pery Broad was, infact, lying when he testified as to the nature of Auschwitz?

 

[dudalb]

Argument from Churchill seems to be a common play from neo-nachos and coconut deniers. Must be a reaction of "wtf, pwnd?!" when it comes to Churchill. Strange obsession that.
Still a derail and not relevant to the topic of the thread.

They think they are being clever by using their enemies own words (alleged own words, that is, since they are very good are distorting and misquoting)
against them.

 

[Skeptic]

It's funny that these folks all talk about how "multi-racial states cannot survive".

Well, they're correct in the technical sense that ALL states eventually fail ("where is your glory now, Babylon?" and all that). But Babylon and Rome and Egypt and the USA and Greece and the rest of those weak, pathetic, doomed to destruction mix-raced countries survived a few hundreds or thousands of years, after all. And they did something for human culture, such as -- oh, I dunno -- the invention of literacy, medicine, science, philosophy, and a few other unimportant trifles.

Now, how long did that racially pure Third Reich last, again? And, except for mass murder on a scale and a method previously literally unimaginable, what cultural and scientific and other achievements did it have, exactly?

What makes us so horrified of Nazism is not only the mass murder, but that Nazism stood for war and mass murder and NOTHING ELSE. If Russia gave us Stalin, it also gave us Dostoevsky and Mendeleev; if China had mass-murdering Mao, it also had Confucius. With the Nazis, we have, on the one hand, Dachau and Auschwitz, but on the other hand...

... well, nothing, come to think of it.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Now, how long did that racially pure Third Reich last, again? And, except for mass murder on a scale and a method previously literally unimaginable, what cultural and scientific and other achievements did it have, exactly?

None.

The two most well known technologies the nazis are commonly mistakenly believed to have invented, the liquid fueled rocket and the jet engine, were both invented outside the Third Reich before the war even started.

 

[Nonpareil]

Now, how long did that racially pure Third Reich last, again? And, except for mass murder on a scale and a method previously literally unimaginable, what cultural and scientific and other achievements did it have, exactly?

The Panzer.

 

[VonKleist]

The Panzer.

Kugelpanzer?

 

[Toke]

Methadone?

 

[Think_Tank]

Herbie

 

[9/11-investigator]

http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/AkteSobibor.pdf

For future reference, brand new revisionist book on Sobibor by Mattogno and Graf.
Paper version will arrive later this year.

Have not read it yet.

Conclusion: no gas chambers, 10,000 dead instead of the official 170,000 death toll.

In German, so you can go back to your television sets. Nothing to be seen here.

 

[VonKleist]

http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/AkteSobibor.pdf

For future reference, brand new revisionist book on Sobibor by Mattogno and Graf.
Paper version will arrive later this year.

Have not read it yet.
Conclusion: no gas chambers, 10,000 dead instead of the official 170,000 death toll.

In German, so you can go back to your television sets. Nothing to be seen here.

Watership Down.

Have not read it yet.

Conclusion: Woundwort loses.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Could not resist the temptation and look for interesting new facts. Here it is: Parky was always asking: 'what happened to the Juden?'.

Go to page 109/chapter 20 'The fate of the Jews who were transported to the East'.

Use google translator.

There we have the Canadian demographer Eugene M. Kulischer who in [drumroll] 1943 conducted research on displacement of people in Europe. His findings regarding the displacement of Jews match almost entirely with the German Korherr report: 274,000 from German speaking territories. He describes in detail what happened to them. Not a word about extermination. But what we do read is this:

"Viele der Deportierten wurden in die Arbeitslager an der russischen Front geschickt, andere zur Arbeit in den Sümpfen von Pinsk, oder in die Ghettos der Baltenstaaten, Weissrusslands und der Ukraine."

So they did not end up in the 6 so-called extermination camps in Poland but they were send further to the East according to this Canadian researcher in 1943!

Again, it should be interesting to conduct research among a few hundred randomly chosen Soviet Jews who emigrated to the US and Israel and start digging where their grand-grand-parents came from... I suspect that a lot of them originated from Europe.

Original Korherr report

Page 9:

4. Transportierung von Juden aus den
Ostprovinzen nach dem russischen
Osten: ............................1 449 692 "


More on Korherr (2nd half article).

 

[Bluespaceoddity]

Not a word about extermination.

Really? Eugene M. Kulischer who in [drumroll] 1943 wrote:
"At the present time, millions of Jews are being murdered by the Germans."

 

[9/11-investigator]

Really? Eugene M. Kulischer who in [drumroll] 1943 wrote:
"At the present time, millions of Jews are being murdered by the Germans."

Source?

 

[Bluespaceoddity]

Source?

Eugene M. Kulischer.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Eugene M. Kulischer.

No kidding!
Obviously I was asking for the source of the 1943 quotation.
Cannot be found back with google.
It is not very likely that the authors of the Sobibor book would have used Kulischer as a source to debunk extermination claims if said Kulischer had opined that the Germans had indeed exterminated in 1943 already.

Maybe your left thumb was the source?

 

[Bluespaceoddity]

No kidding!
Obviously I was asking for the source of the quotation.
Cannot be found back with google.
Maybe your left thumb was the source?

The source of the quotation is Eugene M. Kulischer. I see this as an encouragement for you to get acquainted with all his books/writings, whatever the year of publication. Hint don't just look for the quoted line, you'll find it along the way, and don't stop reading when you do. Don't stop reading until you reach at least 1948.

How are the translations coming, btw? Have you found anything that actually addresses the specific material I directed you to before?

 

[Bluespaceoddity]

No kidding!
Obviously I was asking for the source of the 1943 quotation.
Cannot be found back with google.
It is not very likely that the authors of the Sobibor book would have used Kulischer as a source to debunk extermination claims if said Kulischer had opined that the Germans had indeed exterminated in 1943 already.

Maybe your left thumb was the source?

Response to edit:

Kulischer expressed opinions about nazi policies before 1943 that the three distorters of sources who wrote that PDF also didn't include.

 

[9/11-investigator]

The source of the quotation is Eugene M. Kulischer. I see this as an encouragement for you to get acquainted with all his books/writings, whatever the year of publication. Hint don't just look for the quoted line, you'll find it along the way, and don't stop reading when you do. Don't stop reading until you reach at least 1948.

How are the translations coming, btw? Have you found anything that actually addresses the specific material I directed you to before?

- BSO is playing games, likely because he made the statement up.

- I am fluent in french so I don't need translations. We discussed Natzweiler before.

 

[Bluespaceoddity]

- BSO is playing games, likely because he made the statement up.

- I am fluent in french so I don't need translations. We discussed Natzweiler before.

No, we didn't discuss Natzweiler. You dismissively directed me to links with vague conjecture that offered no rebuttal to the material I referenced.

Was that another one of those links you provided without actually reading what was written there first?

What you posted addressed neither Lang nor Pressac. It was a reply to specific comments made by Williamson in a video you linked and you turned the reply into a carnival of straw man.

For the second comment I made your one line reply directing me back to that message was even less relevant.

So ...

"Le volumineux rapport d'expertise médico-légale de C. Simonin, R. Piedelievre et J. Fourcade décrit méticuleusement l'autopsie de 17 sujets entiers , et de 166 segments de corps appartenant à 64 personnes au moins ; toutes présentant les signes d'une mort par inhalation d'acide cyanhydrique."

Do you have an autopsy for these people that contradicts the cause of death stated above?

Otherwise Menachem Taffel and the connections his murder at Natzweiler provides robs you of the possibility of saying
a. No Jew was ever gassed
b. There are no autopsies for Jews who died of gassing

And no I did really mean to suggest that you should read more books and not trust the sort of material you uncritically cite from such known distorters as the writers of that PDF.

For starters they are already over twenty thousand names short in their accounting because of the death toll among Jews deported from Westerbork alone in their "new" publication's -unsourced- total. For now there is still nothing that a "revisionist" has written to demonstrate their cremated remains are not under Sobibor.