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No Obamacare for Obama

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/23/obamacare-for-everyone-but-obama/


President Obama declared that the new health care law "is going to be affecting every American family." Except his own, of course.
The new health care law exempts the president from having to participate in it. Leadership and committee staffers in the House and Senate who wrote the bill are exempted as well. A weasel-worded definition of "staff" includes only the members' personal staff in the new system; the committee staff that drafted the legislation opted themselves out. Because they were more familiar with the contents of the law than anyone in the country, it says a lot that they carved out their own special loophole. Anyway, the law is intended to affect "ordinary Americans," according to Vice President Joe Biden (who - being a heartbeat away from the presidency - also is not covered), not Washington insiders.

Mr. Obama frequently tossed around the talking point that the new law gave people the same type of coverage as Congress enjoyed. In his March 20 health care pep talk to wavering Democrats on Capitol Hill, the president said one of the advantages of the health care legislation was that "people will have choice and competition just like members of Congress have choice and competition." At yesterday's signing ceremony, Mr. Obama said Americans will be "part of a big pool, just like federal employees are part of a big pool. They'll have the same choice of private health insurance that members of Congress get for themselves." But the American people will have a public pool; the executive branch and congressional staffers kept their country-club pool private.

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The special exemptions slipped into the health care law are another example of how those statists who rule consider themselves a privileged class, imposing burdens on the country that they will not accept themselves. Candidates for office in 2010 should pledge to close these and other loopholes in the law that impose unequal burdens and create exclusive privileged classes in America. Meanwhile, we await Mr. Obama's explanation why if his "historic" health care law is so great for America, it's not good enough for him and his family.
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What's with these increasingly stupid arguments?

Wasn't part of Obamacare stating that If you currently have insurance that you like, keep it. Your plan won't change...?

Obviously, Obama has care that he already likes.
 
*Facepalm* This is such an incredibly stupid "argument."

"Obamacare" only applies to people who don't already have health coverage. As Obama is an employee of the federal government, he already has health coverage; of course it won't apply to him, just as it won't apply to Boehner or McCain.
 
To be fair, the Right in Washington used to pull this crap as well...

Politicians are politicians, left and right...
 
Cleon said:
*Facepalm* This is such an incredibly stupid "argument."

"Obamacare" only applies to people who don't already have health coverage. As Obama is an employee of the federal government, he already has health coverage; of course it won't apply to him, just as it won't apply to Boehner or McCain.
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I already have health coverage. Am I exempt as well?
 
thaiboxerken said:
In a sense, yes. I'm not really going to be affected by Obamacare either, since my company has provided me great coverage.
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So, as a single male with BCBS, I won't have to pay for pediatric and maternity services, and I can continue to adjust my co-pays to control my monthly premiums?
 
Kodiak said:
So, as a single male with BCBS, I won't have to pay for pediatric and maternity services, and I can continue to adjust my co-pays to control my monthly premiums?
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As long as it meets the criteria of the mandate, why wouldn't you?
 
Kodiak said:
So, as a single male with BCBS, I won't have to pay for pediatric and maternity services, and I can continue to adjust my co-pays to control my monthly premiums?
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Why don't you read the bill, and see if/how/when it will affect you? For the most art, people who have insurance, are not affected. Its not like they're going to take away your insurance, and force you to buy a different plan.
 
Kodiak said:
So, as a single male with BCBS, I won't have to pay for pediatric and maternity services, and I can continue to adjust my co-pays to control my monthly premiums?
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Where in HR3590 does it say you have to?
 
thaiboxerken said:
Where in HR3590 does it say you have to?
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The debate right now is simply off the charts into crazyville. Everyone who was against the bill wants to believe the worst about it. And the fact that the fix-it bill hasn't been finalized yet, makes that even more fodder for fantasy.


Once all of the smoke is gone, my guess is we will have a less than perfect solution to the current health care system. It will get somethings right, and some things wrong, but it will go a long way towards correcting health care in this country.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Where in HR3590 does it say you have to?
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http://www.nebraskaadvocacyservices.org/includes/downloads/12109senatebillhr3590.pdf

-- Qualified Health Plans that will be offered through each state’s health insurance exchange must include at least the following benefits:
a. Ambulatory Patient Services
b. Emergency Services
c. Hospitalization
d. Maternity and Newborn Care
e. Mental Health and Substance Abuse Disorder Services
f. Prescription Drugs
g. Rehabilitative and Habilitative Services
h. Preventive and Wellness Services
i. Pediatric Services
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As a single male, I have a problem with having to pay for d. and i.
 
Kodiak said:
http://www.nebraskaadvocacyservices.org/includes/downloads/12109senatebillhr3590.pdf





As a single male, I have a problem with having to pay for d. and i.
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As a single male, you also ay for education funding. Does your current insurance plan now cover these? Mine certainly does, and while I am married, my wife has her own insurance plan from her employment.

Its easier to lump in certain procedures, rather than trying to address each person. You may end up getting married, and placing your new wife on your insurance, at which point you'd be happy to have them.
 
Shalamar said:
As a single male, you also ay for education funding. Does your current insurance plan now cover these? Mine certainly does, and while I am married, my wife has her own insurance plan from her employment.

Its easier to lump in certain procedures, rather than trying to address each person. You may end up getting married, and placing your new wife on your insurance, at which point you'd be happy to have them.
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Why don't I just mail my *********** check to DC now and get it over with!?! Levin, Stabenow, and Obama can provide...



serenity now...
serenity now...


SERENITY NOW!!!...

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Removed breach of Rule 10. Do not swear in your posts or partially mask profanities to avoid the auto-censor.
 
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Kodiak said:
Why don't I just mail my *********** check to DC now and get it over with!?! Levin, Stabenow, and Obama can provide...



serenity now...
serenity now...


SERENITY NOW!!!...
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What the hell are you talking about?
 
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Kodiak said:
Why don't I just mail my *********** check to DC now and get it over with!?! Levin, Stabenow, and Obama can provide...



serenity now...
serenity now...


SERENITY NOW!!!...
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Actually, this would be a check to your insurance company.

Are you certain your current care doesn't cover d and i?
 
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