Ed Tea Party protest descends into madness, racism....

[MattusMaximus]

A little off topic, but does anyone know what the teabagger view of social security and Medicare/Medicaid?

The ones I've talked to want to get rid of both of them. Their answer is to privatize it all.

 

[Loss Leader]

I'm not surprised by any of this. Look at the pro-segregation crowds back in the 50s and 60s, screaming and shouting at a little girl trying to go to school - I'm sure that many of those people felt pretty darn ashamed as the years wore on. This'll be the same. Twenty years from now, they won't even remember what they were so mad about.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

No video or audio of an event?

It didn't happen!

Also see: 9/11 attack on Pentagon.

If one of these alleged racists exploded on impact and left behind 100 tons of aircraft wreckage (part KluKKer, part TARDIS?), that would be something.

 

[Random]

A little off topic, but does anyone know what the teabagger view of social security and Medicare/Medicaid?

Yes. They should be eliminated, weakened, left as is, and strengthened. The Social Security Trust Fund does not exist, Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme, and Medicare is a well-run Private company.

 

[Unabogie]

I denounce any and all racists (and thanks for saying that you don't think I am one).

So...

How about those numbers on what percentage of teat partiers are racists backed up by actual research?

Look up the poll I posted about the Birthers. Birthers are racists. There's just no other explanation for such a whackjob CT.

 

[quixotecoyote]

How about those numbers on what percentage of teat partiers are racists backed up by actual research?

Sorry, I let my subscription to Journal of Number of Racist Protesters Quarterly lapse. Could I use yours?

 

[MattusMaximus]

Look up the poll I posted about the Birthers. Birthers are racists. There's just no other explanation for such a whackjob CT.

Racism isn't the only explanation... there's always insanity

 

[Tricky]

Racism isn't the only explanation... there's always insanity

This was a joke, but really, racism is not insanity. I personally believe that racism is a natural condition, arising from protective xenophobia. In early days of humanity, "people not like us" were to be distrusted, at best, and killed at worst. The idea that all the various kinds of humanity just happily get along is, for me, quite unbelievable.

But as we learn more, we expand our definition of "who is like me". It is important in order to build a society that is greater than primitive tribalism. The world changes. We need to change with it.

But racism doesn't go away. It is deeply woven into our history and perhaps even into our genes. In order to overcome it and build a global community, we have to consciously, intelligently, make the effort to overcome our primitive, maybe instinctual distrust of "people not like us". And it is hard to do. I can't do it completely, even though I try. I admit, that in my heart, I am still afraid of "people not like me". Yes, I'm a racist. I admit it. I recognize it. I will do my very best to overcome my primitive feelings and be as unprejudiced as I possibly can be. But I will never succeed 100%. I will always be swayed, at least a little, by those distant callings. Damn it.

 

[Ohforf]

This was a joke, but really, racism is not insanity. I personally believe that racism is a natural condition, arising from protective xenophobia. In early days of humanity, "people not like us" were to be distrusted, at best, and killed at worst. The idea that all the various kinds of humanity just happily get along is, for me, quite unbelievable.

But as we learn more, we expand our definition of "who is like me". It is important in order to build a society that is greater than primitive tribalism. The world changes. We need to change with it.

But racism doesn't go away. It is deeply woven into our history and perhaps even into our genes. In order to overcome it and build a global community, we have to consciously, intelligently, make the effort to overcome our primitive, maybe instinctual distrust of "people not like us". And it is hard to do. I can't do it completely, even though I try. I admit, that in my heart, I am still afraid of "people not like me". Yes, I'm a racist. I admit it. I recognize it. I will do my very best to overcome my primitive feelings and be as unprejudiced as I possibly can be. But I will never succeed 100%. I will always be swayed, at least a little, by those distant callings. Damn it.

Bonus points for understanding racism and being honest.

 

[Nosi]

Haha, wtf, do you even know what teabagging means?

It harks back to a rebellion against taxation without representation before the American Revolutionary War aka Boston Tea Party. The colonists tossed a bunch of English tea overboard an English ship with out paying for it or paying the exorbitant tax.

 

[Nosi]

Because the "n-word" has no other application in the English language. Faggot, spade, coon, spook, spear chucker and a lot of other terms do. There are other contexts in which they may be used.

The "N" is a bastardized word for the French word for "Black". It hatched bad. Therefor, it was a Rule 10 from inception and an insult from day one.

 

[Nosi]

Not an exclusively homosexual act as implied by corplinx .

Daredelvis

That is

DISGUSTING!

 

[Nosi]

The TP movement, with no leadership structure, and no actual policy platform ("Fiscal Responsibility" is a bumper sticker, not a policy), is perfectly designed to exploit the No true Scotsman falacy.

A simple fiscal conservative and a virulent racist can stand arm and arm in a crowd and denouce the President. When someone points out to the fiscal conservative that he is standing with a racist, he can say he had no idea and move to another part of the crowd, stand next to someone else and denouce the President. When it is pointed out that this person is a black helicopter nutcase, the fiscal conservative can say that he had no idea and move to another area of the crowd, find someone else, and denouce the President again. When the next person says he wants to assassinate the President because he is a British spy working for alQueda, no idea, another part of the crowd...

There is always the ability to take anybody in the TP crowd and say he doesn't really represent the TP movement and distance yourself from that individual while still being part of the TP movement. Of course, since there is no leadership structure, there is no way to boot anyone out, so that person can still show up at the next TP event...

And Obama won the Presidential Race by campaigning via the Internet, the first President 2.0.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Although the American taxes weren't that high...

 

[Nosi]

jimtron
A little off topic, but does anyone know what the teabagger view of social security and Medicare/Medicaid?

The ones I've talked to want to get rid of both of them. Their answer is to privatize it all.

Their ideas regarding the disabled give me the Hitler flavor horrors. I'm disabled myself

 

[Nosi]

Although the American taxes weren't that high...

Taxation is relative: At the time of the Boston Tea Party, The King tried to tax everything, and the taxes were high relative to the colonist's income at the time. There were other issues then that were creating the salt in wound effect out of the taxes. It isn't ever just the one issue that causes revolution, it is the snowball of many small things that creates one big thing.

Other things bothering the colonists were social mobility, religious freedoms, solders housing under their roofs, and taxation with out representation. It was the representation that bugged more than the taxation itself.

 

[Travis]

Come on liberals/leftists/democrats, just admit that you were approving of the calls for the murder of your political opponents by your refusal to stop them.

So far... all of those I've seen screaming in this thread about the alleged unproven racism of the Tea Party are all giant flaming hypocrites.

Had I been at that protest rally (not likely since I'm not anti-war and I pretty much hate all protest rallies) I surely would have let that guy have a piece of my mind.

 

[Juniversal]

The "N" is a bastardized word for the French word for "Black". It hatched bad. Therefor, it was a Rule 10 from inception and an insult from day one.

You mean Spanish I assume? Negro is spanish for black. Noir is French for black. Nigra was a deragatory pronouncement of the word (negro) and the "N" word was born from that mispronounciation.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Had I been at that protest rally (not likely since I'm not anti-war and I pretty much hate all protest rallies) I surely would have let that guy have a piece of my mind.

This is good to hear. And for the record, I walked away from the last racist I found myself confronted with at a political gathering (thought admittedly, I was rather naive at the time and I kinda needed it spelled out first).

I'm glad we're all united in opposing the looney tunes on both sides.

 

[brodski]

The TP movement, with no leadership structure, and no actual policy platform ("Fiscal Responsibility" is a bumper sticker, not a policy), is perfectly designed to exploit the No true Scotsman falacy.

A simple fiscal conservative and a virulent racist can stand arm and arm in a crowd and denouce the President. When someone points out to the fiscal conservative that he is standing with a racist, he can say he had no idea and move to another part of the crowd, stand next to someone else and denouce the President. When it is pointed out that this person is a black helicopter nutcase, the fiscal conservative can say that he had no idea and move to another area of the crowd, find someone else, and denouce the President again. When the next person says he wants to assassinate the President because he is a British spy working for alQueda, no idea, another part of the crowd...

There is always the ability to take anybody in the TP crowd and say he doesn't really represent the TP movement and distance yourself from that individual while still being part of the TP movement. Of course, since there is no leadership structure, there is no way to boot anyone out, so that person can still show up at the next TP event...

so what you are saying is that the TP movement is big tent politics?