9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Nonpareil]

The pictures of the healthy prisoners have been suppressed as they prove that the holocaust is a hoax.

No, they don't. They prove that there were some healthy prisoners.

And, the fact that the photos of dead and dying prisoners were victims of disease and were not killed by the Nazis is also suppressed as it disproves the hoax.

Even if you could prove that the photos were of those who were victims of typhus and not mistreatment by the Nazis (which you can't), all this would prove is that there was a typhus problem at some point. It would not prove that the Holocaust was a hoax.

The US Today linked earlier, written by a Zionist writer working with the USHMM, establishes that the prisoners at Belsen, where many of the photos were taken, died of a typhus epidemic.

No, it establishes that some of the prisoners at Belsen died of a typhus epidemic. 35,000 of them, to be precise - far from the total.

why are you obsessed with the pictures of smiling children?

Because, believe it or not, according to the USHMM holocaust narrative, children were unloaded from the trains and, as they were not able to work, gassed.

Thus, these pictures prove that the holocaust is a degenerate lie.

No, they don't. They prove that, at some point, some of the children in the camps smiled for the camera.

Let's look at another picture, courtesy of Yad Vashem ....

http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/education/educational_materials/adl/images/lesson5_24.jpg

The caption is 'Victims, unfit for work, on their way to gas chamber 4'.

The holocaust is nothing but a pack of degenerate lies, the caption being an example.

This picture proves that how?

 

[Saggy]

If you can't even handle the basic interpretation of a video clip, you shouldn't be posting here. You should find a nurse or a monkey to spoon you apple-sauce and wipe the spittle from your chin.

LOL..... you're the one who needs a reader to help you understand English, here's the quote

"every single member of my family, on both sides, was exterminated"

What part do you not understand?

 

[TraneWreck]

LOL..... you're the one who needs a reader to help you understand English, here's the quote

"every single member of my family, on both sides, was exterminated"

What part do you not understand?

This is how you want to move forward?

Even you have to feel like a moron for advancing that theory.

Why does he mention the lessons his parents taught him if he's claiming they died in the Halocaust?

The meaning is clear, and your pitiful attempt to pervert an obvious statement is instructive with respect to the rest of your claims. You take that same infantile approach to the Halocaust in general, which is why you end up with such laughable conclusions.

 

[Saggy]

Why does he mention the lessons his parents taught him if he's claiming they died in the Halocaust?

Are you a complete moron? He doesn't claim that he never had parents. He claims that they were exterminated.

 

[Moss]

LOL..... you're the one who needs a reader to help you understand English, here's the quote

"every single member of my family, on both sides, was exterminated"

What part do you not understand?

It is you who either fails to grasp what every other person gets from that, namely that every member on his father's side of the family except his father was exterminated, or you want to willfully misrepresent that to an extent that makes it no different than a lie.

 

[Schrodinger's Cat]

Because, believe it or not, according to the USHMM holocaust narrative, children were unloaded from the trains and, as they were not able to work, gassed.

Thus, these pictures prove that the holocaust is a degenerate lie.

Let's look at another picture, courtesy of Yad Vashem ....

http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/education/educational_materials/adl/images/lesson5_24.jpg

The caption is 'Victims, unfit for work, on their way to gas chamber 4'.

The holocaust is nothing but a pack of degenerate lies, the caption being an example.

First off, now you are changing your argument. before you were arguing that pictures of smiling children proves they were happy and not abused. But then I came back at you with:

"my foster sister was horrifically abused by her biological mother on an almost daily basis. she was beaten, starved, burned, thrown down stairs, made to sleep on the basement floor with no bedding, etc. she was finally taken out of her custody and came to live with us when her mother actually tried to kill her. Yet I could show you album after album of smiling family pictures, of pictures of her smiling and looking like any normal carefree kid. Just because a kid knows to smile for a camera, or just because a kid is able to experience moments of joy and happiness, that doesn't somehow prove they're not living in unspeakably abusive conditions."

and so now you are pretending like you were actually arguing something else because I debunked you. NOW you are saying that this proves the lie that all children were gassed as soon as they entered any concentration camp.

Well, if that was the narrative, then yes, that would be a lie.

However, the only people who claim that this was ever claimed are Holocaust deniers. Anyone with passing knowledge of the Holocaust knows that there were difference between camps, between sections within the camps, and within the camps themselves depending on the year in the Nazi Regime. There was never a time in which all concentration camps killed all children upon arrival, and I have never hear this claimed by a Holocaust scholar. I have read a lot of books on the life of Anne Frank and on the Holocaust. I've never read one that says children were "always killed upon arrival" only "Often killed upon arrival" like on this web page about Auschwitz:

http://www.auschwitz.dk/Auschwitz.htm


The problem is that you don't actually read source material. You read what holocaust deniers SAY is in the sourse material. So then you attack caims that Holocaust scholars never made, and pat yourself on the back for your cleverness at debunking them.

And as for the video....TW is correct, the person in the video never claims his parents died in the camps, only that their families were wiped out and his parents were IN the camps, and that they taught the lessons they learned there to him and his children. He states that his parents were in the camps. He states his family on his mother and his fathers side were exterminated. as in his parents were the only survivors. Obviously he is not claiming they were killed because he talks then about how they raised him to teach him the lessons they learned in the camps. How could they have taught him lessons they learned in the camps if they had died there?

You are not even capable of understanding words spoken in simple English, yet I'm supposed to believe you've cracked the case of the Holocaust?

Also, STILL no response to my question of if I kidnapped your children and put them in a diseased tent without sanitation and they got typhoid and died, if you'd consider me not at fault as you claim is true for the Nazis.

 

[TraneWreck]

Are you a complete moron? He doesn't claim that he never had parents. He claims that they were exterminated.

Alright, last time. Watch the video again. After this I will just assume you are either seven years old or some douche bag that gets a kick from trying to annoy people on the internet.

First, people are shouting him down, so pretending like his statements are going to be perfectly precise is just silly.

Second, he says his "late mother" and "late father," he doesn't say they were killed in the camps.

Third, then he says, "my entire family on both sides..." was killed. He obviously means, except his mother and father, because

Fourth, he discusses the lessons about the Halocaust they imparted on he and his siblings.

It's blatantly obvious. His parents were in camps, survived, had kids, and told them about it. The rest of his family was exterminated.

After all the nonsense you've spouted in this thread, that one has to be obvious, even for someone of your tragically limited capabilities.

 

[Saggy]

Alright, last time. Watch the video again. After this I will just assume you are either seven years old or some douche bag that gets a kick from trying to annoy people on the internet.

First, people are shouting him down, so pretending like his statements are going to be perfectly precise is just silly.

Second, he says his "late mother" and "late father," he doesn't say they were killed in the camps.

Third, then he says, "my entire family on both sides..." was killed. He obviously means, except his mother and father, because

Fourth, he discusses the lessons about the Halocaust they imparted on he and his siblings.

It's blatantly obvious. His parents were in camps, survived, had kids, and told them about it. The rest of his family was exterminated.

After all the nonsense you've spouted in this thread, that one has to be obvious, even for someone of your tragically limited capabilities.

Here's the quote ... your BS notwithstanding ...

"every single member of my family, on both sides, was exterminated"

....... LOL .... spin it again, you're cracking me up !

 

[Moss]

As usual Saggy seems to have only viewed that part of "American Radical: The Trials of Norman Finkelstein".
That's what you get when you only read and view what your wannabeführers in the holocaust denial cult prescribe as the whole truth. Nothing that could ever challenge your beliefs.
Else he'd know that Finkelstein of course speaks about his youth in America. And he'd know that Finkelstein's parents died in 1995.
Have you read Pressac's book yet?

 

[TraneWreck]

Here's the quote ... your BS notwithstanding ...

"every single member of my family, on both sides, was exterminated"

....... LOL .... spin it again, you're cracking me up !

Yeah, that's what we call the "insecure man's surrender." You know you're wrong but are too childish to admit it, so you just turn the obnoxious dial to 11 and repeat yourself over and over.

It's just amusing that you think this has some effect on people. You know how many fools in countless subjects have arrived at this point on these boards, Saggy?

Pouting with fingers in ears is the end game for crap like that.

 

[Schrodinger's Cat]

Here is Dr Norman Finklestein's Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#Personal_background_and_education

there are also many web pages about him if you simply google him, Saggy. he has talked extensively about his parents history in the camps and written about them as well. he never claimed his parents died in the camp. They were the only surviving members of their families from the camps. They immigrated to America. They both died in 1995.

Of his mother: "She considered the day of her liberation as the most horrible day of her life, since it first struck her then that she was alone, none of her parents and siblings having managed to survive."

 

[TraneWreck]

Here is Dr Norman Finklestein's Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#Personal_background_and_education

there are also many web pages about him if you simply google him, Saggy. he has talked extensively about his parents history in the camps and written about them as well. he never claimed his parents died in the camp. They were the only surviving members of their families from the camps. They immigrated to America. They both died in 1995.

Of his mother: "She considered the day of her liberation as the most horrible day of her life, since it first struck her then that she was alone, none of her parents and siblings having managed to survive."

The following comment is more appropriate for the paranormal board, but I'm going to show you guys my psychic powers:

Saggy's response to SC's post will be, "if her day of liberations was so horrible, then the camps must have been awesome and fun."

 

[Schrodinger's Cat]

lol

 

[VonKleist]

Here's the quote ... your BS notwithstanding ...

"every single member of my family, on both sides, was exterminated"

....... LOL .... spin it again, you're cracking me up !

Cool. Here's another quote, from David Irving:

I've changed my views. I spoke then about Auschwitz and gas chambers based on my knowledge at the time, but by 1991 when I came across the Eichmann papers, I wasn't saying that any more and I wouldn't say that now. The Nazis did murder millions of Jews. ..I made a mistake by saying there were no gas chambers, I am absolutely without doubt that the Holocaust took place.

 

[Saggy]

Here is Dr Norman Finklestein's Wikipedia page:

I managed to scan it ..... but really, the details of the cat fight between Finklestein and Dershowitz are of interest to whom?

By sheer chance I have watched one other video with Finklestein speaking, and he discusses how he became interested in the 'holocaust industry' - the problem was that his parents, who did indeed survive the war despite his claim to the contrary in the video linked above , thought that the Jews were stealing their reparations money. The problem was - not enough money ! They were supposed to be dead, right? They were in Auschwitz and Majdanek, two ghastly extermination camps. Why in the hell weren't they happy to be alive, after millions had died? No, hell no, they wanted more MONEY. Even more, it was other Jews who were stealing their money. LOL. Why didn't that make it into wiki ? ???

Now, why would Finklestein claim that his entire family had been exterminated when obviously they weren't? The answer is simple - the Jews think that they can say any absurd thing in the world about the holocaust, and not be called on it, because, after all, they are Jews and they have suffered so horribly. They don't even have to think about what they are saying. The more outrageous the better. Wiesel says that babies were thrown into the air and used as targets by machine gunners and he wins a Nobel prize. What prize should Finklestein get for his degenerate lies?

 

[Cleon]

I managed to scan it ..... but really, the details of the cat fight between Finklestein and Dershowitz are of interest to whom?

By sheer chance I have watched one other video with Finklestein speaking, and he discusses how he became interested in the 'holocaust industry' - the problem was that his parents, who did indeed survive the war despite his claim to the contrary in the video linked above , thought that the Jews were stealing their reparations money. The problem was - not enough money ! They were supposed to be dead, right? They were in Auschwitz and Majdanek, two ghastly extermination camps. Why in the hell weren't they happy to be alive, after millions had died? No, hell no, they wanted more MONEY. Even more, it was other Jews who were stealing their money. LOL. Why didn't that make it into wiki ? ???

Now, why would Finklestein claim that his entire family had been exterminated when obviously they weren't? The answer is simple - the Jews think that they can say any absurd thing in the world about the holocaust, and not be called on it, because, after all, they are Jews and they have suffered so horribly. They don't even have to think about what they are saying. The more outrageous the better. Wiesel says that babies were thrown into the air and used as targets by machine gunners and he wins a Nobel prize. What prize should Finklestein get for his degenerate lies?

I can only think of one response that seems appropriate.

 

[Hokulele]

Did anyone else see the show "Who Do You Think You Are?" last night? It was about Lisa Kudrow, who lost a family member in the Holocaust. The interview with the woman who witnessed the events in Ilya, Maria Aleksiyonok, was chilling.

"May the Gods allow it to never happen again."

 

[Saggy]

Let's look at Finklestein's lies a little more closely - he says that his entire family on both sides was exterminated. Well, we know he is lying about his mother and father, and that raises the question, who else is he lying about?

Of course, the truth is that no member of Finklestein's family was exterminated, as the holocaust is a hoax. But, I'm willing to be proven wrong, so the challenge to the holocaust believers is to supply the name of ONE of Finklestein's relatives who was 'exterminated' and the evidence that supports that claim. Perhaps Finklestein has been thoughtful enough to provide this info in his writings.

 

[TexasJack]

I managed to scan it ..... but really, the details of the cat fight between Finklestein and Dershowitz are of interest to whom, really?

I have watched one other video with Finklestein speaking, and he discusses how he became interested in the 'holocaust industry' - the problem was that his parents, who did indeed survive the war despite his claim to the contrary, thought that the Jews were stealing their reparations money. Now, why didn't that make it into wiki ? ???

Now, why would Finklestein claim that his entire family had been exterminated when obviously they weren't? The answer is simple - the Jews think that they can say any absurd thing in the world about the holocaust, and not be called on it, because, after all, they are Jews and they have suffered so horribly. They don't even have to think about what they are saying. Wiesel says that babies were thrown into the air and used as targets by machine gunners and he wins a Nobel prize. What prize should Finklestein get for his degenerate lies?

Are you using a bot?

 

[George 152]

Had they only been malnourished they probably would have been saved. And you are ignoring the pictures showing all the healthy non-starving prisoners. So, your 'bias' is apparent.

And besides, the holocaust idiocy is that Jews unable to work were killed on arrival at the camps in gas chambers. These pictures were taken by the US/Brits when they liberated the camps, that is, at the end of the war. Do you not see that these pictures, even the pictures of the dead and dying, prove that that DID NOT HAPPEN.

Here is a picture to contemplate .....

try http://www.ushmm.org/research/collections/highlights/auschwitz/ if you want pictures