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[dafydd]

True, im just trying to explain it how i see it in my head. The picture best explains it - Now just think of ways something like that can be done.

It can't be done,so why waste time thinking about it?,unless you're thinking about writing an sf novel.

 

[Correa Neto]

...snip... If someone wanted to cause an earthquake the easiest way would be to drill down to a fault and set off a nuclear explosion right there, no one would know that there had been an explosion and no one would suspect it was man made...snip...

Uh, no. The shock waves from nuclear blasts have a seisimic "signature" completely diferent from those from earthquakes. A nuke's signature may look like those from huge conventional chemical explosions, however (remember the questionings from the early North Korean explosions?).

Assuming the passage of shock waves from a blast at a fault could trigger an earthquake, by enhancing the natural stress field and decreasing rock's mechanical resistence, the tell-tale signature of the blast would be recorded before the arrival of the earthquake it induced.

Of course, Rorylee's post are still nonsense. Might be the stuff for a scyfy channel movie, however.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Its been explained that haarp sends 'stuff' into the sky.

It's a transmitter. Transmitters send radio waves into the sky.

Radio waves are a particular kind of stuff. They are not seimic waves. Nor are they cold viruses, nor plagues of frogs, nor mystical mind control beams, nor dread harbingers of ill fortune. Just radio waves, with physical properties which are really very well understood indeed by many, many people from all over the world.

Other people, who do not know or care what radio waves are like, have fun making up crazy stories about what this "mysterious" technology may do. Please note that stuff is not actually true; it's just made up craziness.

Thanks.

 

[rorylee]

It's a transmitter. Transmitters send radio waves into the sky.

Radio waves are a particular kind of stuff. They are not seimic waves. Nor are they cold viruses, nor plagues of frogs, nor mystical mind control beams, nor dread harbingers of ill fortune. Just radio waves, with physical properties which are really very well understood indeed by many, many people from all over the world.

Other people, who do not know or care what radio waves are like, have fun making up crazy stories about what this "mysterious" technology may do. Please note that stuff is not actually true; it's just made up craziness.

Thanks.

It could be made up craziness, whateva tickles your fantasy. However i enjoy taking maybe 2 hours a week out of my time to think about it..

A wave gets sent into the sky, a satellite receives that wave while at the same time bouncing it back down with something(another wave maybe lol?) else inside that wave and when it hits the ground or goes into the ground like how they search for minerals, the wave that is trap instead the wave gets released. A perfect example on how you can make HAARP a public place with walk-thrus cause all it is doing is sending waves as they say. But can you work thru a satellite? or a space station

 

[EHocking]

It could be made up craziness, whateva tickles your fantasy. However i enjoy taking maybe 2 hours a week out of my time to think about it..

A wave gets sent into the sky, a satellite receives that wave while at the same time bouncing it back down with something(another wave maybe lol?) else inside that wave and when it hits the ground or goes into the ground like how they search for minerals, the wave that is trap instead the wave gets released.

No. Just, No.
Seismic surveys are not performed with radio waves, one type, a magnetometor, measures magnetic flux, but does not transmit.

ETA: Read up on techniques here, Geophysical survey^WP

A perfect example on how you can make HAARP a public place with walk-thrus cause all it is doing is sending waves as they say. But can you work thru a satellite? or a space station

Uh, yes - space stations were BUILT for walking through...

 

[rorylee]

No. Just, No.
Seismic surveys are not performed with radio waves, one type, a magnetometor, measures magnetic flux, but does not transmit.

Never said they are, i was implying it been held within the wave and released when they wave stops. hence the picture? see the blue dots inside the red lines?

Uh, yes - space stations were BUILT for walking through...

Common.. a monkey coulda said that.. let me rephrase then. Are they open to public walk-thrus?

 

[Cosmic Roy]

A wave gets sent into the sky, a satellite receives that wave while at the same time bouncing it back down with something(another wave maybe lol?) else inside that wave and when it hits the ground or goes into the ground like how they search for minerals, the wave that is trap instead the wave gets released. A perfect example on how you can make HAARP a public place with walk-thrus cause all it is doing is sending waves as they say. But can you work thru a satellite? or a space station

rorylee, you seem to be ignoring the fact that electromagnetic waves are an entirely different phenomenon to seismic waves. There is simply no signal one could send through space that would initiate seismic waves in the Earth. None at all. Really, this is true. Speculating that an earthquake could be caused by accompanying an electromagnetic signal with "something else" (what?!) is as valid as blaming magic or invisible unicorns. And if it's satellites that are the source of the magic earthquake-inducing radiation, what role would HAARP play at all?

 

[EHocking]

Never said they are, i was implying it been held within the wave and released when they wave stops. hence the picture? see the blue dots inside the red lines?

Meaningless science fiction. A sound wave is not a radio wave and therefore cannot be stored/hidden within one. Just because a radio makes sound, it does not follow that radio waves are sound waves.

It is a fantasy and your picture does nothing to dispell that conclusion.

Common.. a monkey coulda said that.. let me rephrase then. Are they open to public walk-thrus?

Irrelevant question since no member of the public is able to get to them.

I can't "walk through" the Hubble telescope either, but that is not evidence that it is used for any but a telescope.

 

[Akhenaten]

Errare humanum est; perseverare diabolicum.

 

[TjW]

HAARP turned me into a newt!

 

[Correa Neto]

Note:
You can visit the ISS if you have and are willing to pay something around U$ 20 million.
http://www.spaceadventures.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=orbital.Orbital

Pay me and I can go there see if it has something to do with HAARP.

 

[rorylee]

rorylee, you seem to be ignoring the fact that electromagnetic waves are an entirely different phenomenon to seismic waves. There is simply no signal one could send through space that would initiate seismic waves in the Earth. None at all. Really, this is true. Speculating that an earthquake could be caused by accompanying an electromagnetic signal with "something else" (what?!) is as valid as blaming magic or invisible unicorns. And if it's satellites that are the source of the magic earthquake-inducing radiation, what role would HAARP play at all?

Yea your right, iam. Im trying to define gravity in a sense. Why im putting crazy ideas out to see if anyone here could answer it with facts =]

Haarp plays a role in sending the wave first to a space station or a satellite which holds something similar to a seismic wave that could cause earthquakes. Then like a needle the space station or satellite inject the other half(whether it be a seismic wave, vibrations - something that could cause an earthquake) into the initial wave sent up and bounces/beams it back down to the target zone. When the wave stops, the injected wave/vibration(?) sets the earthquake off.

I have no idea how or what or even it could be done, but its just an idea ive further more come up with.

 

[Marduk]

I have no idea how or what or even it could be done,

colour me surprised

 

[dafydd]

Yea your right, iam. Im trying to define gravity in a sense. Why im putting crazy ideas out to see if anyone here could answer it with facts =]

Haarp plays a role in sending the wave first to a space station or a satellite which holds something similar to a seismic wave that could cause earthquakes. Then like a needle the space station or satellite inject the other half(whether it be a seismic wave, vibrations - something that could cause an earthquake) into the initial wave sent up and bounces/beams it back down to the target zone. When the wave stops, the injected wave/vibration(?) sets the earthquake off.

I have no idea how or what or even it could be done, but its just an idea ive further more come up with.

Develop it into an sf movie script.

 

[gambling_cruiser]

And your ideas are wrong.
Satellites orbit in near vacuum, therefore no sound/seismic waves can transmitted to earth. Your electromagnetic waves of HAARP don't help. A mechanic wave like sound is only transmitted through dense material effectively, not through the vacuum that surrounds satellites. We can't make gravity waves, neither on earth nor in space.
I don't want to ridicule you but your physics knowledge appears to be nowhere at the necessary level to really discuss any waves.

 

[EHocking]

Yea your right, iam. Im trying to define gravity in a sense. Why im putting crazy ideas out to see if anyone here could answer it with facts =]

Trolling perhaps?

Haarp plays a role in sending the wave first to a space station or a satellite which holds something similar to a seismic wave that could cause earthquakes.

No. Explained previously. Cannot be done.

Then like a needle the space station or satellite inject the other half(whether it be a seismic wave, vibrations - something that could cause an earthquake) into the initial wave sent up and bounces/beams it back down to the target zone..

No. Explained previously. Cannot be done.

When the wave stops, the injected wave/vibration(?) sets the earthquake off. .

No. Explained previously. Cannot be done.

I have no idea how or what or even it could be done,.

Yes you have, it has been explained multiple times to you on this thread. Cannot be done.

but its just an idea ive further more come up with.

It's pointless speculation on science fiction? Other than trolling, what purpose do these posts serve? It is not even a mind experiment since the initial premise is flawed.

 

[Cosmic Roy]

Yea your right, iam. Im trying to define gravity in a sense. Why im putting crazy ideas out to see if anyone here could answer it with facts =]

Haarp plays a role in sending the wave first to a space station or a satellite which holds something similar to a seismic wave that could cause earthquakes. Then like a needle the space station or satellite inject the other half(whether it be a seismic wave, vibrations - something that could cause an earthquake) into the initial wave sent up and bounces/beams it back down to the target zone. When the wave stops, the injected wave/vibration(?) sets the earthquake off.

I have no idea how or what or even it could be done, but its just an idea ive further more come up with.

I don't know where you think gravity comes into this, but you should know that seismic waves are generally oscillations within a solid medium; only specific types can be transmitted through a fluid, and none at all can be transmitted through the vacuum of space.

If you vibrate an object within a solid or liquid medium, you will cause pressure waves to propagate outward from the disturbance. In the Earth these are called seismic waves, and they come in a couple of forms depending on the plane of oscillation. If on the other hand you vibrate an object within a vacuum, there are no particles adjacent to the disturbance to carry the energy away. The only kind of waves that can be sent through space are electromagnetic, but there is no way by which these, when reaching the Earth, can initiate seismic waves.

To the best of my knowledge, you can consider this to be a factual response to your crazy ideas.

 

[rorylee]

Yea fair enough. (*cough* without knowing of any kind of alien technology humans may have )

and trolling when it merits the thread? sure im not an expert or read articles day in day out about this, why a back and forth decisions is on it.. and im learning. Given most replies are insults or people really trolling.

Well since a electromagnetic wave is the only thing that can be sent into space or a satellite/space station. there goes the idea of manipulating that wave.. now to think more outside of the box =] maybe a plane?

Only reason i thought of a satellite was cause of North Korea getting theirs shot down (if i remb right by Japan) around the same time as testing nukes.

 

[Sledge]

You're trolling because you're asking questions then ignoring the answers.
"What if HAARP caused earthquakes?"
"It doesn't."
"But how could it?"
"It can't."
"But what if it did?"
etc

 

[dafydd]

Yea fair enough. (*cough* without knowing of any kind of alien technology humans may have )

and trolling when it merits the thread? sure im not an expert or read articles day in day out about this, why a back and forth decisions is on it.. and im learning. Given most replies are insults or people really trolling.

Well since a electromagnetic wave is the only thing that can be sent into space or a satellite/space station. there goes the idea of manipulating that wave.. now to think more outside of the box =] maybe a plane?

Only reason i thought of a satellite was cause of North Korea getting theirs shot down (if i remb right by Japan) around the same time as testing nukes.

Think about what you post,read it back and you won't be open to insults