Chavez vs the USA

[The Platypus]

Chavez is an idiot, and so is anyone that thinks that earthquakes are caused by the gov't.

Plate Tectonics is not hard to understand.

 

[Dandyone]

You said that it was a possibility. Which is a staggeringly ignorant statement to make.

There is no such thing as scalar technology. If you're going to draw from science fiction for your theories, try using recent examples like "Babylon 5" rather than stuff that was written in the 1920s.

Zero |= "several". You fail at 1st grade arithmetic.

From the link you provided:

“Indeed, Soviet energetics weapons are now capable of destroying both our triad shield, our homeland, our armed forces in the field, and our population, quickly and efficiently. We have a new “gap” of monumental proportions: not a missile gap, not a submarine or bomber gap, and not even a particle beam or laser gap. We have a scalar electromagnetics or electrogravitation gap.”

“History does repeat itself. But this time it’s not we Americans who got the great new superweapon first.”

Have you bothered to watch the news in the last 20 years? The commies gave up in 1990. They had no superweapon with which to pwn us and they couldn't compete or keep up economically. So they threw in the towel.

Mind you... if you believe the crap on that page, you probably also believe Hitler and the nazis escaped into the hollow earth in 1945 and have spent the last 65 years building the master race on the moon.

The "commies" didn't give up, neither did the Nazis, they just moved over here. Read about "Operation Paperclip". What do you think the neo-CON movement is? Podhoretz, Kristol, Medved, Perle, et al are all neo-Trotskyite-commies. Check out their backgrounds. The Nazis and the Bolcheviks were funded and controlled by the same entity.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Check this out...

Meaning someone who disagrees with your position?

We're such horrible people that, when someone disagrees with us, we call them a troll. Dandyone, being such a perfect specimen of human rationality, is above such nastiness. When some disagrees with him, he shows respect and compassio--

I have my opinion and you have yours. Yours is obviously fed to you by the Madison Ave propagandists who created and control our media, and sell the flag waving battle glory crap that you apparently eat up with a spoon.

Oh, right. We're brainwashed. That's sooo much classier than suggesting someone might be a troll.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Nevermind.

 

[kookbreaker]

Tesla was a genius who was far ahead of his time, and is responsible for pioneering our electrical power grid. If Edison's idiotic ideas were implemented, there would be a huge power plant on every corner.

That much is true, but it does not make the claims about his later works any less cranky.

If Tesla were allowed to continue his research unharrased we would have no ugly power lines and energy would have been clean and cheap a long time ago.

No. If his work continued we'd have an extremely wasteful transmission method, and the woowoo hypochondriacs would be crying about how the electricity transmissions in the air were killing them. Electricity generation and pollution were not Tesla's concern so it would not have been 'clean' nor 'cheap'.

What Berdon was talking about has nothing to do with "perputual motion machines", he is not a crank by any means.

Yes he is. He makes unsupported claims about fantasy weapons that never existed and if they had would have turned the balance of world power on its side. He's nuts, pure and simple.

Reich was a genius on many levels, far surpassing both Freud and Einstein in their respective fields.

No, he was a crank. He invented a magic energy for which there is zero evidence and started practicing medicine with it. That is a crank by any means.

He was systematically destroyed by the FDA and US courts and his books and laboratory works were confiscated and actually BURNED in the USA.

You forgot to mention that the reason the books were BURNED was because he wouldn't stop selling them as medical texts even after ordered to cease doing so!

What was done to Reich is one of the most despicable chapters in US history.

Not really. Reich was a crank who thought he could be above the law.

Surpression of energy technology is a well documented FACT.

For lesser definitions of 'documented FACT' only.

The good news is that soon all three of these men will be proven to be right and the existing laws of conservation of energy and thermodynamics will be exposed for the flat earth hoaxes that they are.

Any day now.....any day now....any day now....any day now.

I wonder why every highschool student knows about Edison, Freud, and Einstein but not Tesla, and Reich?

I learned about Tesla because he actually had some accomplishments. They glossed over much of his eccentricities, however.

I didn't learn about Reich because he was a fraud and a kook. We had a limited time in high school and didn't want to waste it on scammers and fakes like Reich.

Maybe even YOU could figure that out after you have read some of their works.

I already have. Beardon and Reich were utter nutcases.

 

[Stout]

So did Chavez say this or not?

I hate Chavez as much as the next guy (unless the next guy is Childlike Empress of DC), but we should refrain from attributing him things he didn't say.

I don't know...

I tried to figure this out yesterday and failed. Apparently.....the quote(s) came from some Venezuelan state owned TV station and were under some sort of opinion column. I'm unable to determine the reliability of the original source.

Then a major Spanish newspaper ran with the story and from there it got picked up by the English speaking MSM , like FOX.

I found a bunch of Socialist sites denying the quote, but that's about it

FWIW

 

[technoextreme]

Tesla was a genius who was far ahead of his time, and is responsible for pioneering our electrical power grid. If Edison's idiotic ideas were implemented, there would be a huge power plant on every corner.

Hahah.... You do realize that parts of power grid are DC current right????? The fact is that Edison's ideas weren't implement because it was a technological impossibility. You need these big huge switches that are very hard to build. Nowadays its still pretty dam annoying but you do run into scenarios where DC current is vastly superior in terms of power transmission despite its inconveniences. If you are going to bash a technology make sure you bash it correctly.

The good news is that soon all three of these men will be proven to be right and the existing laws of conservation of energy and thermodynamics will be exposed for the flat earth hoaxes that they are. I wonder why every highschool student knows about Edison, Freud, and Einstein but not Tesla, and Reich? Maybe even YOU could figure that out after you have read some of their works.

Wait a second wait a second wait a second. I find it really stupid that you are whinnying about Tesla being unknown when anyone with a modicum of physics background knows that he's one of the few people with a unit named after him.

 

[Childlike Empress]

I don't know...

I tried to figure this out yesterday and failed. Apparently.....the quote(s) came from some Venezuelan state owned TV station and were under some sort of opinion column. I'm unable to determine the reliability of the original source.

Then a major Spanish newspaper ran with the story and from there it got picked up by the English speaking MSM , like FOX.

I found a bunch of Socialist sites denying the quote, but that's about it

FWIW

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165367

Officially debunked.

This thread we're in is about the prejudices of Alferd Packer.

 

[technoextreme]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165367

Officially debunked.

This thread we're in is about the prejudices of Alferd Packer.

Nah... Its still a thread about how stupid people can be. Just not Chavez.

 

[Childlike Empress]

There's ample evidence of this in it, indeed.

 

[technoextreme]

There's ample evidence of this in it, indeed.

Or Alfred Parker mind you.

 

[scissorhands]

Correct!

Nikolai Tesla-Crank

Colonel Thomas Beardon-Crank

Wilhelm Reich-Crank

Believe me, if there were any truth to this silly woo, it would have been reported on the O'reilly Factor or Hardball. All else is woo.

How can I nominate you for a major award? Can you get me the major award nomination link. You are doing a swell job debunking all this woo.

Wilhelm Reich and his orgone accumulator inspired this classic track.

Not sure he accomplished anything with the actual device though.



You know you are on solid scientific ground when psychedelic rock bands latch on to your ideas.

 

[I Ratant]

Baghdad, being founded in AD 762, doesn't exactly qualify as ancient. That label is generally given to anything prior to the fall of the Roman Empire (AD 476).

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And the trashing was done by the Baghdadites... Some of us watched them do it on live tv.
The idiot stealing the door frame.. Great find, that.
Finding a place to put it his hovel... wonder how that worked out?
The trashings of the museums.. The curators there -expected- it once the government failed, and took some pains to hide some of the goodies.

 

[Stout]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165367

Officially debunked.

Cheers Childlike Empress

Poster "Lucky" follows the same path I did in post #50 in that thread.

This thread we're in is about the prejudices of Alferd Packer

I must have missed those, I'm here for the conspiracy lunacy.

Now back to orgone energy...that's the stuff they're using to keep us safe from chemtrails isn't it?

 

[scissorhands]

Now back to orgone energy...that's the stuff they're using to keep us safe from chemtrails isn't it?

Lookee here.
Its an orgone energy chemtrail buster in action.

 

[Travis]

The "commies" didn't give up, neither did the Nazis, they just moved over here. Read about "Operation Paperclip". What do you think the neo-CON movement is? Podhoretz, Kristol, Medved, Perle, et al are all neo-Trotskyite-commies. Check out their backgrounds. The Nazis and the Bolcheviks were funded and controlled by the same entity.

So, in addition to believing that aspartame kills, that free energy is suppressed and that there is something called "scalar technology earthquake weapons" you think that the neo-con movement is just communism in disguise?


I disagree with just about everything you say but this is turning out to be mighty entertaining.

 

[dtugg]

The good news is that soon all three of these men will be proven to be right and the existing laws of conservation of energy and thermodynamics will be exposed for the flat earth hoaxes that they are.

x infinity

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Note for OP:

Assassin's Creed 2 is not a historical documentary.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Although both George W. Bush and Colin Powell had said they would not send U.S. troops to Haiti until there was a political solution, U.S. troops were ordered to Haiti within one hour of President Aristide’s departure. Dick Cheney denied that the United States arrested or forcibly ousted President Aristide, saying that President Aristide, who had “worn out his welcome with the Haitian people,” had “left of his own free will.”

It would have been pretty difficult to forcibly oust President Aristide by sending troops in an hour after he was gone.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Tesla was a genius who was far ahead of his time, and is responsible for pioneering our electrical power grid. If Edison's idiotic ideas were implemented, there would be a huge power plant on every corner. If Tesla were allowed to continue his research unharrased we would have no ugly power lines and energy would have been clean and cheap a long time ago.

Tesla was free to continue his research all along. He simply had to use his own money, since his investors didn't want to pay for a system where everyone got electricity for free.