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Chavez vs the USA

Dandyone said:
I simply don't let mainstream thought and propaganda define my reality as you obviously do. I suspect that "reality" is much different than what we were taught in our history classes or what is churned out by the major news/propaganda sources.

You on the other hand seem to be in lock step with this so called reality that has been socially engineered into your psyche by the boys on Madison Ave and their masters at CIA which is nothing more than the US wing of disinfo for the international banking cabal.
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:jaw-dropp
 
Dandyone said:
I never said that the US caused the Chile earthquake or any other earthquakes. I simply stated that Hugo Chavez has ample reason to distrust the US military and the CIA.
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There was even far more reason to distrust the enemies of the US military and the CIA.

As far as all your calculations regarding what it would take to cause an earthquake, the jury is definitely out.
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No. No it is not.

There is a large body of data regarding so called 'scalar' technology that is not generally known to the public or admitted to by the US government.
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No, there is not. There are a bunch of cranks trying to claim there is, but it is simple untrue.

Several prominant Scientists are of the opinion that causing an earthquake using this technology is very plauseable, and they suspect that it has been done in the past. Here is a breif summary regarding the existence of such technology.

http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/a-brief-primer-on-scalar-weapon-technology/

There are links to a large body of research therein.
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And it is junk. The people who wrote it have no sense of scale or energy. The pages are laughable and mostly written by cranks of the Cold War era.
 
So did Chavez say this or not?

I hate Chavez as much as the next guy (unless the next guy is Childlike Empress of DC), but we should refrain from attributing him things he didn't say.
 
Pardalis said:
So did Chavez say this or not?

I hate Chavez as much as the next guy (unless the next guy is Childlike Empress of DC), but we should refrain from attributing him things he didn't say.
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There were rumors that he had said such things about the Haitian Earthquake, but i recall there were some problems with initial reports and translations. It would not surprise me as he tends to shoot his mouth off about non-threats to keep his populace cowed. Read his recent babbling about the Netherland's military.
 
kookbreaker said:
There was even far more reason to distrust the enemies of the US military and the CIA.



No. No it is not.



No, there is not. There are a bunch of cranks trying to claim there is, but it is simple untrue.



And it is junk. The people who wrote it have no sense of scale or energy. The pages are laughable and mostly written by cranks of the Cold War era.
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Correct!

Nikolai Tesla-Crank

Colonel Thomas Beardon-Crank

Wilhelm Reich-Crank

Believe me, if there were any truth to this silly woo, it would have been reported on the O'reilly Factor or Hardball. All else is woo.

How can I nominate you for a major award? Can you get me the major award nomination link. You are doing a swell job debunking all this woo.
 
Pardalis said:
So did Chavez say this or not?

I hate Chavez as much as the next guy (unless the next guy is Childlike Empress of DC), but we should refrain from attributing him things he didn't say.
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I don't think he said it yet but I would not be surprised if he does at some point.
 
Tesla hasn't claimed anything for a very long time, nor has Reich. I'm assuming you mean Col. Thomas BeardEn. Seems to be a pretty obvious crank.
 
Dandyone said:
I'm not sure I would call what Chavez does "scapegoating". He hates the US policy makers because he feels that they have illegally tried to usurp his power as the duly elected leader of his country. He also believes that there have been attempts to murder him that were CIA induced. Perhaps he has talked to family members of Salvador Allende or one of the several other elected former leaders in his region that have been murdered. What I am saying is that perhaps he is not just some paranoid nut case and that his fears are based on reality. That's another way YOU could look at it.

As far as earthquakes being caused by other than natural means, the jury is out on whether or not this could be carried out. However if it could, and there was any sort of political reason for causing a genocidal, destructive and disruptive earthquake, naturally, for many reasons, THE prime suspect from any intelligent South or Central American leaders perspective would be the US and the CIA.
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What jury is that?

The enegry requirements to trigger even a modest earthquake is beyond the ability of any country. Plus how would you place the trigger device?

CT'ers are as stupid about geology as they are about politics.
 
Dandyone said:
Correct!

Nikolai Tesla-Crank

Colonel Thomas Beardon-Crank

Wilhelm Reich-Crank

Believe me, if there were any truth to this silly woo, it would have been reported on the O'reilly Factor or Hardball. All else is woo.
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Tesla exhibited signs of mental illness. Beardon aparently believes that the government is withholding perpetual motion machines. And Einstein called Wilhelm Reich out on his antics. So yeah its pretty much all woo.
 
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Dandyone said:
Correct!

Nikolai Tesla-Crank
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Tesla was a bit of nutter, but he did have some good inventions. Sadly, he also pursued some ideas that just were nonsense.

Colonel Thomas Beardon-Crank
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Complete crank

Wilhelm Reich-Crank
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Yup. Mr 'Orgone Energy' was a outright nutter.

Believe me, if there were any truth to this silly woo, it would have been reported on the O'reilly Factor or Hardball. All else is woo.
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ooooh, did you get off beating up that strawman?

How can I nominate you for a major award? Can you get me the major award nomination link. You are doing a swell job debunking all this woo.
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Such bitterness!
 
MontagK505 said:
What jury is that?

The enegry requirements to trigger even a modest earthquake is beyond the ability of any country. Plus how would you place the trigger device?

CT'ers are as stupid about geology as they are about politics.
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Especially in the times before we had access to anything of massive destructive power. (and still nothing in the quake category.)
ISTR Darwin went on a bit about quakes in Chile in "Voyage...."
 
Several prominant Scientists are of the opinion that causing an earthquake using this technology is very plauseable, and they suspect that it has been done in the past. Here is a breif summary regarding the existence of such technology.

labvirus.wordpress.com/2010/0...on-technology/

There are links to a large body of research therein.

Oh my God, if we can come up with this technology, why is it that we can't come up with something that would clear the mind of a CTer who believes in this crap.
 
For crying out loud. Chavez is nuts. The US did not cause the Haiti earthquake.

Everyone knows it was God who punished them for not praying to him.

Geez! When are people gonna get their facts straight before talking?
 
Dandyone said:
I never said that the US caused the Chile earthquake or any other earthquakes.
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You said that it was a possibility. Which is a staggeringly ignorant statement to make.

There is a large body of data regarding so called 'scalar' technology that is not generally known to the public or admitted to by the US government.
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There is no such thing as scalar technology. If you're going to draw from science fiction for your theories, try using recent examples like "Babylon 5" rather than stuff that was written in the 1920s.

Several prominant Scientists are of the opinion that causing an earthquake using this technology is very plauseable,
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Zero |= "several". You fail at 1st grade arithmetic.

http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/a-brief-primer-on-scalar-weapon-technology/
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From the link you provided:

“Indeed, Soviet energetics weapons are now capable of destroying both our triad shield, our homeland, our armed forces in the field, and our population, quickly and efficiently. We have a new “gap” of monumental proportions: not a missile gap, not a submarine or bomber gap, and not even a particle beam or laser gap. We have a scalar electromagnetics or electrogravitation gap.”

“History does repeat itself. But this time it’s not we Americans who got the great new superweapon first.”

Have you bothered to watch the news in the last 20 years? The commies gave up in 1990. They had no superweapon with which to pwn us and they couldn't compete or keep up economically. So they threw in the towel.

Mind you... if you believe the crap on that page, you probably also believe Hitler and the nazis escaped into the hollow earth in 1945 and have spent the last 65 years building the master race on the moon.
 
Dandyone said:
I'm sure the people in Baghdad were singing this tune while thier ancient and beautiful city [...]
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Baghdad, being founded in AD 762, doesn't exactly qualify as ancient. That label is generally given to anything prior to the fall of the Roman Empire (AD 476).
 
technoextreme said:
Tesla exhibited signs of mental illness. Beardon aparently believes that the government is withholding perpetual motion machines. And Einstein called Wilhelm Reich out on his antics. So yeah its pretty much all woo.
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Tesla was a genius who was far ahead of his time, and is responsible for pioneering our electrical power grid. If Edison's idiotic ideas were implemented, there would be a huge power plant on every corner. If Tesla were allowed to continue his research unharrased we would have no ugly power lines and energy would have been clean and cheap a long time ago. What Berdon was talking about has nothing to do with "perputual motion machines", he is not a crank by any means. Reich was a genius on many levels, far surpassing both Freud and Einstein in their respective fields. He was systematically destroyed by the FDA and US courts and his books and laboratory works were confiscated and actually BURNED in the USA. What was done to Reich is one of the most despicable chapters in US history. Surpression of energy technology is a well documented FACT.

The good news is that soon all three of these men will be proven to be right and the existing laws of conservation of energy and thermodynamics will be exposed for the flat earth hoaxes that they are. I wonder why every highschool student knows about Edison, Freud, and Einstein but not Tesla, and Reich? Maybe even YOU could figure that out after you have read some of their works.

"Mans Right To Know" google video

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But in your defense you spouted the party line chapter and verse. You assimilate well! Eddie Bernays would be proud.
 
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