Merged Interesting Analysis of Changing Media Attitudes toward 9/11 Alternative Theories

[Thunder]

9/11 conspiracy is huge and just keeps getting bigger. Especially with younger people.

wrong. 9-11 Truth is getting smaller every year.

how many folks do u think will show up at GZ this September 11th? maybe 200?

as a mass-movement, you all have utterly failed.

 

[RedIbis]

wrong. 9-11 Truth is getting smaller every year.

how many folks do u think will show up at GZ this September 11th? maybe 200?

That's hardly the barometer by which to judge people's interest in studying the fraud and cover-up of the official story.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Give the people what they want.

But isn't that exactly why the majority of you people relegate yourselves to the Internet almost exclusively? Why would you suddenly want to get in bed with mainstream media again; because you think they're telling you what you want to hear?

Seems kind of pointless...

Oh, right. It's just a popularity contest for you, it seems.

Especially since the debunking movement still can't put it all to rest. It's been 9 years.

That's not how it works, champ. The logical point of view is that, even after 9 years, 9/11 truthers haven't proven their case. That goes even more significantly for JFK assassination nutters and Moon landing loons. They've had even more time to prove their case and still haven't managed to do so.

But if those are the "stars" you're shooting for, be my guest. The rest of humanity will continue to march forward, actually accomplishing things, without you.

 

[Pardalis]

I thought truthers didn't trust mass media, now they find it validating that they're talking about them?

 

[DavidJames]

Especially since the debunking movement still can't put it all to rest. It's been 9 years.

People believe crazy things. Bigfoot, magnets cure illness, talking to dead relatives, astrology and CT's. The human mind is susceptible to all sort of illogical thinking.

Religious beliefs dominate thought throughout the world, 100% based on faith.

"debunking" is irrelevant and isn't effective against such ingrain, inherently flawed thinking.

It's all about belief and little about facts.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I thought truthers didn't trust mass media, now they find it validating that they're talking about them?

"It's a trap!"

 

[Thunder]

That's hardly the barometer by which to judge people's interest in studying the fraud and cover-up of the official story.

its the one i use.

 

[RedIbis]

its the one i use.

That's not particularly shocking.

 

[Foolmewunz]

That's not particularly shocking.

Well, no it wouldn't be, would it? You believe that "powers" within the US government conspired to kill off more than 3000 people and destroy billions of dollars in property and earnings, all with an impossibly vast conspiracy and technology that didn't exist.

So, essentially, you're sort of like the Mikey of beliefs. You'll believe anything.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Conspiracy in general is just getting bigger. This happened primarily in my opinion from the inadequate investigations surrounding the JFK assassination..

In MY opinion, it happened because modern technology has made it possible for any idiot to quickly reach a large audience.

 

[funk de fino]

That's hardly the barometer by which to judge people's interest in studying the fraud and cover-up of the official story.

Except there was no fraud and cover up. The 911TM just study the lies and incompetence from morons then repeat it. Certain suckers then lap it up and post threads here which are pitiful.

 

[Dave Rogers]

That's hardly the barometer by which to judge people's interest in studying the fraud and cover-up of the official story.

What a classic piece of conspiracist thinking. A piece of evidence disagrees with what you want to believe, so you automatically discard that piece of evidence. Care to justify your assertion that a decline in activism is not evidence of a decline in interest?

Dave

 

[Scott Sommers]

Really? I clearly identified their perspective when I said,



Bolded to make the point.

My point is that you can't tell the difference between right-wing and wing-nut. This is a paper run by a Christ-based anti-Communist cult. Opposing North Korean political ideology does not make you right-wing. This is a paper that is run as an extension of a cult that defrauds people of money and this, use bizarre indoctrination techniques, as well as numerous other questionable practices.

The Unification Church is NOT a right-wing organization. They are a wing-nut religious cult that runs a newspaper. This newspaper reflects their anti-North Korean ideology. If you can't get this, you should stop reading newspapers because you probably can't understand them properly. But then we already know this.

 

[BigAl]

My point is that you can't tell the difference between right-wing and wing-nut. This is a paper run by a Christ-based anti-Communist cult. Opposing North Korean political ideology does not make you right-wing. This is a paper that is run as an extension of a cult that defrauds people of money and this, use bizarre indoctrination techniques, as well as numerous other questionable practices.

The Unification Church is NOT a right-wing organization. They are a wing-nut religious cult that runs a newspaper. This newspaper reflects their anti-North Korean ideology. If you can't get this, you should stop reading newspapers because you probably can't understand them properly. But then we already know this.

Here's a documentary on Moon's church in 6 10-minute parts.

The Unification Church part 1 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOY3Sxe4TeE
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He's subsidized the Washington Times to the tune of a billion bucks over the years.

 

[Scott Sommers]

9/11 conspiracy is huge and just keeps getting bigger. Especially with younger people.

I thought we went through this one ages ago. Is this why they can't get more than a handful of people out to a rally? Let me tell you one more time...We Are Change holds a rally every year in New York at Ground Zero on September 11...every year the number goes down. You dip heads claim you got 80,000 bazillion signatures on a petition, but then you hold a rally for the same petition and it got a hundred people. And guess what? It's the same hundred people who went the 911 rally at Ground Zero. Do you know that rally had people come from Ohio and Georgia and all over the USA? It was a dogawned national rally and there was only a hundred people there.

Babble on Truther friend, say whatever you want. We'll still love you here at JREF. But just go try striking up a conversation with a stranger about 911 or better yet, bring it up next time you're on a date - if you do that sort of thing. Why not go down to the nearest fire station and try to sign up some of the firefighters to one of those petitions you guys have around. You'll see how "huge" it is.

 

[RedIbis]

My point is that you can't tell the difference between right-wing and wing-nut. This is a paper run by a Christ-based anti-Communist cult. Opposing North Korean political ideology does not make you right-wing. This is a paper that is run as an extension of a cult that defrauds people of money and this, use bizarre indoctrination techniques, as well as numerous other questionable practices.

The Unification Church is NOT a right-wing organization. They are a wing-nut religious cult that runs a newspaper. This newspaper reflects their anti-North Korean ideology. If you can't get this, you should stop reading newspapers because you probably can't understand them properly. But then we already know this.

What in the hell are you talking about? You're suggesting that THe Washington Times is a Moonie paper?

 

[RedIbis]

What a classic piece of conspiracist thinking. A piece of evidence disagrees with what you want to believe, so you automatically discard that piece of evidence. Care to justify your assertion that a decline in activism is not evidence of a decline in interest?

Dave

What this is is a classic piece of debunker "logic." You are evaluating worldwide interest in researching alternative theories on 9/11 by the amount of people who are able to attend an event in Manhattan.

For instance, I was born in NYC, I still have many friends and family there. I've been to GZ about 10 times and never have I been able to make it to GZ on 9/11.

So has my interest declined?

 

[BasqueArch]

What in the hell are you talking about? You're suggesting that THe Washington Times is a Moonie paper?

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The Washington Times was founded in 1982 by Unification Church leader Sun Myung Moon[1], who has said that he is the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ and is fulfilling Jesus' unfinished mission.[2][3] Bo Hi Pak, Moon's chief aide, was the founding president and the founding chairman of the board.[4] In 1996 Moon discussed his reasons for founding the Times in an address to a Unification Church leadership conference, saying "That is why Father has been combining and organizing scholars from all over the world, and also newspaper organizations, in order to make propaganda."[5] In 2002 Moon said: "The Washington Times is responsible to let the American people know about God" and "The Washington Times will become the instrument in spreading the truth about God to the world."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times

 

[Scott Sommers]

What in the hell are you talking about? You're suggesting that THe Washington Times is a Moonie paper?

Have you read anything posted here? Yes. The Washington TIMES is completely owned by the Unification Church of Sun Myung Moon. Ohhhh, I see. You don't know that the Unification Church = Moonies.
Here ya' go rocket scientist.

The Unification Church is a new religious movement founded by Korean religious leader Sun Myung Moon.

and here

The Washington Times is a daily broadsheet newspaper published in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States. It was founded in 1982 by Unification Church founder Sun Myung Moon, and has been subsidized by the Unification Church community.

and here

Moonie (plural Moonies) is a term which refers to members of the Unification Church; it is derived from the name of church founder Sun Myung Moon.

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha...yes, Red, I'm laughing at you.

 

[RedIbis]

Fair enough, I really didn't know that. I knew the WT was a right wing paper, but I had no idea they were associated with the Moonies.