John said:
To answer Orphia, perhaps it wasn't God who killed those Haitians as much as it was our lack of caring that did. Similar to my not being attentive to the command of cleaning and preparing my house to be ready to move, have we (the planet as a collective) used all of the science, and technology and means of educating, taking care of and evolving, as one people of this Earth, instead of being focused on the petty, inane, mundane, illogical and wasteful things we fill our minds with and spend our time on? Perhaps if we were similar to the Na'vi and in tune with this planet, but also able to utilize our technological advancements, Earthquake detection would be a more accurate science, underwater and space exploration more underway, wars a thing of centuries old and the blaming of GOD for the death of so many as well as all other wrongs on this Earth... simply no more.
Not this tripe again.
"Sure, God can override the free will of my neighbour to make her buy me a shed with money she might have been better off spending on other things, but saving people from a colossal earthquake? That we need to do ourselves, because, you know, we have the ability and the know-how to reduce loss of life drastically in that regard!"
At least he's got his priorities straight
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ETA: Not the least bit hypocritical either, telling orphia to prioritize when he himself finds it perfectly OK that God gave him a shed while letting the true horrors of the world continue on unabated. "Being focused on the petty, inane, mundane, illogical and wasteful things we fill our minds with and spend our time on" indeed.
We are not at a place of coming together yet. There has not been that one catalyzing, or is it, cataclysmic event that would be so great so that everyone
on Earth would have to give up on the things that are failing and focus on that which needs to be done. Events like that, like Haiti, bring us back to the
realization that WE ARE HUMAN and COME TOGETHER and WORK TOGETHER in an extraordinary way when we are made to. The human spirit perseveres
and overcomes all obstacles and hardships... with Peace being the greatest one yet to achieve, yet when we do achieve it, and look back on all that it took
to get to it, it will only make it that much greater and worth keeping, knowing that there could never be any other way... not the way we are living now.
Angel: "Hmm, let's see, people are not prioritizing the way I'd want them to. What can we do?"
God: "How about we take this third-world failed state that no one's ever heard of and kill a quarter of a million of their population, while throwing the country into even bigger turmoil than before?"
Angel: "Sounds like a plan. I'll get the choir of angel to start playing their HAARPs".
ETA #2: I see Orphia summed it up much better than me:
So, God killed the Haitians due to humanity's lack of caring.
But John, who's careless about packing, still got a great deal on his rent, a new shed, and a trip to Hawaii.
But you see, Orphia, Haiti is just a bunch of foreigners. John is
John, and without the shed he'd be sad! Surely you see that the Lord needs to prioritize?
ETA #3: I like this ridiculous strawman, too:
Let me guet this right: god is bad because dying is bad, death is bad when it is a murder, thousands died in Haiti killed by god, being killed is recognized as a bad thing, god if he wants to be good he should let people die from old age..even better for god to be good we are not to be dead "killed" in any way shape or form. Dying is bad in any way shape or form therefor god is bad in any shape or form. then i dont believe in a killer "god".
Sorry guys whom ever think this way is not able to see further than his nows, (if he can see at all), this "logical" thinking process can be valid if you control all the parameters in the experience, all those who try to apply this so called "logic" to refute the existance of god end up being CONTROL FREEKS and/or Goloms.
Yep, kheirddine, that's exactly how it is. No shades of grey, only black and white.You want a hamburger instead of starving? Well, if you want one burger, that must mean you want a thousand burgers! How greedy of you! Surely you see how that's impossible, and that the only remaining option is to let you starve!
ETA #4: Couple pages in and now two trolls have arrived with ad hominems - "if you insult god you insult yourself, he's probably just in pain, etc. etc. etc.". Why discuss the issue when you can just sidestep and bully? ETA #5: And here comes the first mention of Soddom and Gomorrah, paraphrased, "cut the disobedience or we're gonna massacre every single one of you, down to the innocent infants!".
Beautiful. ETA #6: No, wait, there's a twist here - he was comparing
Haiti to S&G. Even more beautiful! And it's a Muslim fundamentalist for a change!
