Illegal observation in the Netherlands

Earthborn said:
She would have now have been in a forced marriage, and quite possibly active in a terrorist organisation.
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Wow. I guess the choices a person from the maghreb has are limited to 1) immigrating to the Netherlands, or 2) becoming a terrorist.
 
MaGZ said:
Like charging people with a crime for denying the Holocaust.
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I agree completely with you on this: we shouldn't call them criminals, or make of them criminals with pointless laws. Everyone with a lick of sense knows they are just pathetic incompetant rectums who would not recognize historical truth if it reared up on it's hind legs and crapped all over them. Well, except the group of them who know the Holocaust was real but do their slimy best to hide and distort facts proving same due to their foul racism and anger over their tiny....................reproductive apparatus.
 
Arcade22 said:
Well, after reading the court order i must say that i am amused.

‘The borders are closed to all non-Western immigrants the same day.’ and ‘We want enough. Close the borders, no more Islamics in the Netherlands,
many Muslims deported from the Netherlands, denaturalisation of Islamic criminals.’ is apparently 'incitement of hatred'.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/188094b2d519eb5ec4.gif[/qimg] How exactly is this 'incitement of hatred'?

I also saw this: ‘Those Moroccan boys are really violent. They beat up people because of their sexual orientation. I
have never used violence.’ which i assume is true. Can we thus assume that they have banned the truth in the Netherlands?
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Truth is the first casualty of war............
 
MikeMangum said:
I guess the choices a person from the maghreb has are limited to 1) immigrating to the Netherlands, or 2) becoming a terrorist.
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Not true of every person, and I wasn't talking about every person, but one in particular. Considering who she hung around with and with whom she sympathised before she got the chance to learn about Western political philosophy, I think it is a fair statement.
 
Seems like the multiculturalist and those that proclaim that we should 'allow all the darkies to come over and take our jobs, rape our women and live on our welfare for the rest of their lives'
can't debate their views and must censor all those that disagree with them... :eek:
 
MaGZ said:
Like charging people with a crime for denying the Holocaust.
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What everyone else said. Holocaust deniers are liars and among the lowest forms of pond scum. But it shouldn't be criminalized to deny the Holocaust, any more than it should be criminalized to offend the deniers' delicate sensibilities by making unkind comments about them.
 
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The problem with racists like this guy and Steyn is that they equate muslims with islamist ideology. This guy's summons make that clear:


"‘A moderate Islam does not exist."

"The man is absolutely right. The Muslim population doubles with every generation – 25 years – and the number of Islamics in each and every European country is taking disturbing forms.’"


By extension, all muslims are fundamentalists. The only solution, and one implied by Steyn's chauvinist tracts, is to get rid of the muslims themselves.

"‘I have had enough of the Islam in the Netherlands: no more Muslim immigrants. I have had enough of the adoration of Allah and Mohammed in the Netherlands: no more mosques."

As I think I've pointed out before, this is akin to suggesting a way to deal with the gang problem in Los Angeles would be to deport black people.

It might be different in the US or Canada, but in Europe the Nazis came to power democratically while similarly promoting stereotypes of Jews. Checks and balances on democracy are perfectly acceptable, and I'm not convinced that 'freedom of speech' should be exempt from any kind of circumscription by law (though on the balance I do find myself in favour of freedom of speech, I find that instances like this one challenge my belief).

Anyways, for those with a fetishistic obsession with this liberty, this should be worth a chuckle (also from the summons):

"I have had enough of the Quran in the Netherlands: prohibit this fascist book."
 
ravdin said:
What everyone else said. Holocaust deniers are liars and among the lowest forms of pond scum. But it shouldn't be criminalized to deny the Holocaust, any more than it should be criminalized to offend the deniers' delicate sensibilities by making unkind comments about them.
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What about saying the holocaust was a good thing and it's time for a new holocaust? Would it be okay for a politician to promote this?
 
Captain.Sassy said:
What about saying the holocaust was a good thing and it's time for a new holocaust? Would it be okay for a politician to promote this?
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Legally? Yes. I want people who believe that to say it if for no other reason than so that I know who they are.
 
One thing about Geert Wilders should be know. He is a stooge for the Jews and Israel, which explains his Islam bashing.
 
Captain.Sassy said:
What about saying the holocaust was a good thing and it's time for a new holocaust? Would it be okay for a politician to promote this?
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Not okay, but I don't think the speech itself should be criminalized. Let the voters decide if that politician should be elected to public office.
 
CORed said:
Yes, but criminalizing idiocy will fill even more prison cells than criminalizing drug abuse, and be even less effective at eliminating idiocy than criminalizing drug abuse has been at eliminating drug abuse.
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I must have been unclear... I am 100% AGAINST criminalizing his or anybody else's speech (within the usual "fire in a crowded theater" limit, which is something totally different than "so-and-so might be insulted").

I am just pointing out that despite what is happening to Geert being a cruel farce, he is still an idiot.
 
Arcade22 said:
Seems like the multiculturalist and those that proclaim that we should 'allow all the darkies to come over and take our jobs, rape our women
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Well, I know at least one dark-skinned barbarian whose coming over, despite his explicit intention to take over the place and rape the women, had been enthusiastically supported by all the womenfolks, for some strange reason:

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