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What about this crop circle?

What about this crap circle??


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Sacred geometry is the lamest of all geometries. No math required!

Pyramids are the other sacred hooplah.
A pyramid can be made without a measuring stick.
The only thing easier to make is a circle.
Intersecting circles look really cool.

A good oval requires one extra point of i.q.
 
A whirlwind of highly excited plasma that spewed like an insidious fountain of war... Spilling out deep demented fire.
A blast furnace deep inside this mother ship's bowel that endlessly fuels its inner desire for the ultimate and complete annihilation of our wheat, corn, and barley fields.
It all seemed to flow with ease ...With every blast more stalks laid away and down, submitting to these whirlwinds ...Twisting and weaving like an old woven cap.

The only relief was short lived, just blinks and minuscule lulls between each pulsating spasm ...
The only chance to prepare...Before the next mad spinning vortex carves out its final circular pattern.

But one small and numerous earthly creature, a nuisance, a pest that hides away in our tall grasses...
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Silently stands its ground and seems to be resistant, unharmed from these electrified photonic razings. The first, second and then third burst, flattening, twisting and weaving ...leaving their telltale circular marks of war. Has them face to face with this green hideous homegrown resister. Their desperate full tilt bombardments, had a null effect on these earthly grass beings.
...The Grain Aliens retreated past Jupiter to reform and recalculate...Their urge to fill this bottomless pit of craving with victory, doesn't go unnoticed here. To us they look like random pretty circles. To these little alien kernels they are glee, little steps toward a final and glorious victory.
 
I want a dodecahedron with a reverse twist.
Plus a likeness of a giant ear of corn. Just in case it is Corn Gods.
Oh, and a giant Corndog, in case it's alien Corndogs, too.

Cover all the bases.

With mustard. (for the corn dogs)
 
While you have the people who know, on ignore, you're hardly going to get an opportunity to talk to them :rolleyes:


Except you have refused to answer my questions. Have you changed your mind? If you won't answer my questions I can't trust you. If I can't trust you I might as well have you on ignore.

Have you ever made a crop circle from which something unexpected and powerful came, like a new mathematical theorem or whatnot? Or do you know any circlemakers who have had that sort of experience and said something like, "hey ya'know when I was making that circle I didn't intend the design to come out that way, the design just sort of happened by accident because I don't know **** about X."
 
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Have you ever made a crop circle from which something unexpected came, like a new mathematical theorem? Or do you know any circlemakers who have had that experience and said, "hey ya'know when I was making that circle I didn't intend the design to come out that way, the design just sort of happened by accident because I don't know **** about X."

This happens to me when I draw, write fiction, play music and dream. I wonder if aliens are in my brain directing my every move???????
 
Mathematicians are known to exist, aliens are not.

Can't you imagine crop circle groups trying to outdo each other?
 
Fractals do not require a "genius" to design them, and certainly not an alien. Human beings, such as the astrophysicist who identified the above-linked circle as a pattern representing pi, and designed the accompanying graphic to illustrate this value, is not an alien, although he might be a genius. What's your point, Limbo?

If you think only geniuses or aliens could divide a circle into ten segments and ten rings, then count a number of segments from the center before shifting the borders of each ring, then you haven't been paying attention to human history or geometry class.

ETA: Stray Cat and Toke: Exactly.
 
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Except you have refused to answer my questions. Have you changed your mind? If you won't answer my questions I can't trust you. If I can't trust you I might as well have you on ignore.
I can and will give verifiable information about the history of crop circles.
I will freely give verifiable information that fills the gaps that the crop circle researchers don't tell.
I wont discuss details of my personal involvement.

Have you ever made a crop circle from which something unexpected and powerful came, like a new mathematical theorem or whatnot? Or do you know any circlemakers who have had that sort of experience and said something like, "hey ya'know when I was making that circle I didn't intend the design to come out that way, the design just sort of happened by accident because I don't know **** about X."
No one has ever made a circle from which a new mathematical theorem came. Hawkins' work was badly flawed and circular, what he found were not actually theorems and most of what he wrote about was actually a part of established Euclidean geometry in the first place.

But yes fantastic claims have been made about circles I know to have been made by people. Including: People claiming to have been watching the field (in which a team of 9 made a circle) all night and so whatever made the crop circle must have been invisible. On other occasions apparently I have been given the power of levitation as there were no footprints and no sign of human involvement, at other times it has been reported that it would have taken people 3 days solid to make something which was in fact made in four and half hours. In other designs, many people have found 'hidden' messages that were not intentionally designed in. But as a good crop circle design leaves a LOT of room for personal interpretation, this surprises me least as that is mostly the intent of the ambiguous designs.
 
Fractals do not require a "genius" to design them, and certainly not an alien. Human beings, such as the astrophysicist who identified the above-linked circle as a pattern representing pi, and designed the accompanying graphic to illustrate this value, is not an alien, although he might be a genius. What's your point, Limbo?
Strangely enough even though iteration has been around a while, it wasn't until the graphic pictorial representation of fractals became possible with the advancement on computers, that the first fractal crop circles started turning up. Maybe it would have been slightly more 'alien' if the Juliaset fractal designs had been made in the wheat fields BEFORE the 80's.
 
If I can't trust you I might as well have you on ignore.
If all of us followed that rule, no one would see anything you post.

Have you ever made a crop circle from which something unexpected and powerful came, like a new mathematical theorem or whatnot? Or do you know any circlemakers who have had that sort of experience and said something like, "hey ya'know when I was making that circle I didn't intend the design to come out that way, the design just sort of happened by accident because I don't know **** about X."

This stuff has already been debunked on this thread. You can keep ignoring it and reading silly stuff to stay misinformed if you like, but it's obviously your willful decision to remain ignorant.

And no, you still have no right to any personal information about any forum member.
 
Mathematicians are known to exist, aliens are not.


So I guess we can just say that if it exists, circlemakers have it if they need it. Engineering experts? Check. Math? Check. Alchemy? Check. Astronomy? Check. Religion? Check. Nuclear? Check. Experts trained to be stealthy, silent artists. They work night or day, they work for free, they work in any weather, and they have the resources and organization to travel or network all over the world. Is that the picture of the crop circle community we are meant to have? It sort of clashes with the punk-ass prankster picture, doesn't it?
 
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So I guess we can just say that if it exists, circlemakers have it if they need it. Engineering experts? Check. Math? Check. Alchemy? Check. Astronomy? Check. Religion? Check. Nuclear? Check. Experts trained to be stealthy, silent artists. They work night or day, they work for free, they work in any weather, and they have the resources and organization to travel or network all over the world. Is that the picture of the crop circle community we are meant to have? It sort of clashes with the punk-ass prankster picture, doesn't it?
But 'argument from ignorance' is synonymous with the woo promoter.

None of the subjects you list above have ever given the science community any information that they didn't already know.
All reported 'predictions' supposedly geometrically embedded into the designs of the circles have been made in hindsight.
All the designs, the math, the science purported to have been designed in the circles is easily available to find on the internet by anyone with a web enabled computer. All it takes is a slight creative streak and an interest and knowledge of the crop circle community to continue to provide them with food for thought every year.
 
So I guess we can just say that if it exists, circlemakers have it if they need it. Engineering experts? Check. Math? Check. Alchemy? Check. Astronomy? Check. Religion? Check. Nuclear? Check. Experts trained to be stealthy, silent artists. They work night or day, they work for free, they work in any weather, and they have the resources and organization to travel or network all over the world. Is that the picture of the crop circle community we are meant to have? It sort of clashes with the punk-ass prankster picture, doesn't it?

Maybe you should take up crop circles, since you seem to have the skill of making strawmen down to an art.

What are you trying to say? Where does "nuclear" come into this? "Alchemy"? No one but you has claimed anything out of the ordinary or non-mundane for crop circles or their artists.

Not that it necessarily has anything to do with reality, but my mental image of the crop circlers is a sort of artist/geek ("geek" in the sense of techy, highly intelligent person.) And yes, plenty of genius geeks are punk-ass pranksters. They have slightly skewed senses of humor. I believe punk-ass pranks have even been institutionalized into a week of such stuff at MIT.

My brother is a graph theorist and I can see him seriously getting into designing a crop circle. He's not an outdoors type of person so he probably wouldn't participate in making it, but he would have a good time designing it.

p.s. Limbo, would you please state in so many words what you think crop circles are all about? You hint this and imply that, then when somebody says, "Aliens aren't involved," you say you don't believe in aliens. Then you go on and on about psi but never say what role you think psi might play in crop circling. I repeat my earlier request. Would you please say:

This is what I think happens with crop circles:
1. _____
2. _____
3. _____

This is why I think so:
1. _____
2. _____
3. _____

If you would do this, people who know about crop circles might be able to address your questions.
 
So I guess we can just say that if it exists, circlemakers have it if they need it. Engineering experts? Check. Math? Check. Alchemy? Check. Astronomy? Check. Religion? Check. Nuclear? Check. Experts trained to be stealthy, silent artists. They work night or day, they work for free, they work in any weather, and they have the resources and organization to travel or network all over the world. Is that the picture of the crop circle community we are meant to have? It sort of clashes with the punk-ass prankster picture, doesn't it?

You're making the same absurd arguments you've been making.

Nuclear? Surely you're not saying nuclear energy is required to make a crop circle. Or do you mean that some very basic knowledge available in seconds on the interwebs can be rendered into a crop circle? Yes, it is.

And this business of "experts trained to be stealthy, silent artists" is just BS and you know it.

You've gone beyond willfull ignorance now.

And why is it that you haven't yet given a direct answer to the questions many of us have been asking you: what do you believe about crop circles, and what is the evidence to support your position?
 
And why have you never responded to my questions about snowboarding, Limbo?

Many of these guys have skills way beyond average humans. Most of them work for free in all sorts of weather. It's something done all over the world (which you equate with having the resources and organization to travel or network all over the world).

Why don't you think it requires paranormal activity? Or do you?
 

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