Merged Interesting Analysis of Changing Media Attitudes toward 9/11 Alternative Theories

Woody- said:
What exactly is a professional librarian?
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One who:

1. Has a thorough understanding of and employs the Dewey Decimal System.
2. Keeps track of overdue books and assigns fines based on the length out past due date.
3. Trains chosen teenage girls to protect Sunnydale from the vampire menace.

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There seems to be a reading issue involved in our disagreement. The original post that our exchange refers to is not related to the Elizabeth Woodsworth article. Instead, it refers to a post and link from MacKay

Mackay said:
We already have a stickied thread about the "media response." It has been both strong and almost unanimously negative.
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You then commented

RedIbis said:
Proving that you didn't even bother to scan the examples they cite.
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Your more recent comment is that
RedIbis said:
The article makes a persuasive argument that 9/11 "Truth" (as they call it) is being reported in international media outlets more objectively than in recent years.
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My response to this was that if you read Mackay's original link, it's clear that the articles linked to DO NOT in anyway support the position there is a Truther position in the media or that it has changed. I suspect your original position is wrong and that Mackay has read the thread. In your more recent post, you are confused about the topic of the original comment.

I shouldn't complain too much about this because I do this sort of thing all the time. But your more recent point has nothing to do with MacKay's original point that you responded to.

As for the article? Well, it certainly sums up the Truther position. Since anyone can pay a fee to be a member of Global research and with that status submit an article, its presence in the periodical means nothing at all. In fact, as I point out, at least one quarter of the citations completely trash Gage and are keeping in the tradition of mainstream "international media outlets" to treat Truthers and Truthing like it is a joke.
 
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I'd like to read the article red links to but it's unavailable:

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Which one of you fried the server?
 
Drudgewire said:
One who:

1. Has a thorough understanding of and employs the Dewey Decimal System.
2. Keeps track of overdue books and assigns fines based on the length out past due date.
3. Trains chosen teenage girls to protect Sunnydale from the vampire menace.

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Protects and collects mystical artifacts. Such as Excalibur and the Judas Chalice

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RedIbis said:
The article makes a persuasive argument that 9/11 "Truth" (as they call it) is being reported in international media outlets more objectively than in recent years.
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No, it does not.

What is particularly irksome for the resident debunkers is when this discussion moves from the realm of kooky conspiracy theories to genuine skepticism.
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It doesnt.
 
RedIbis said:
What is particularly irksome for the resident debunkers is when this discussion moves from the realm of kooky conspiracy theories to genuine skepticism.
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evidenceless based opinion noted. Well done, in keeping with the MO of the TM.

TAM:)
 
RedIbis said:
The article makes a persuasive argument that 9/11 "Truth" (as they call it) is being reported in international media outlets more objectively than in recent years.

What is particularly irksome for the resident debunkers is when this discussion moves from the realm of kooky conspiracy theories to genuine skepticism.
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That's because the TM has been slowly dying out, which makes Truthers a rare breed in the Media spotlight. If the TM can't seek National Media, they'll seek attention from countries who don't want no part in it or hear what the TM has to say. Those countries know what the TM is up to, to get a foreign Government power to overthrow the U.S. Government. In the U.S. Constitution, we as American citizens have a right to defend & uphold the Constitution from enemies, both foreign & domestic. The TM is an enemy to the American citizens & we will do everything in our power to stop the TM & their cult followers. You are such an enemy!

In order for it to become "genuine skepticism", you really need evidence first before being a skeptic.
 
Umm..what analysis is in this article? All she did was summarize the shows with their own biases in mind.

Love the credentials of the author:
Elizabeth Woodworth is a retired professional health sciences librarian, and a freelance writer.
 
LightinDarkness said:
Umm..what analysis is in this article? All she did was summarize the shows with their own biases in mind.

Love the credentials of the author:
Elizabeth Woodworth is a retired professional health sciences librarian, and a freelance writer.
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If she writes on article on the effect of the Dewey Decimal System on Swollen Prostates, I'm there. Otherwise, she's outside her area of expertise.

Where have I heard that before?
 
R.Mackey said:
Ironically, if Truthers paid more attention to librarians, as in actually asked them for help while doing real research, there probably wouldn't be any Truthers. :p
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Those librarians and their fancy cars and their summer homes in Florida...think they're better than me!

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I love how this idiot claims that edutainment documentaries on basic cable mean that people are taking the "science" seriously."

That is quality thinking for the You Tube generation!

Make sure you read her self published novel! The November Deep. I made it to the second page when I burst out laughing. His "Irish Lisp."

BWHAHAHA!! Another winner Red Ibis!!
 
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I went to look for her 'novel' and found another post that was critical of Israel. That's probably a coincidence, right?

ETA - She had me at his "Irish Lisp" but lost me at his "tweed back." She's exacerbating librarian stereotypes with her fiction.
 
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Case Study 13: New Zealand TV's "Close Up" hosts Architect Richard Gage, November 27, 2009


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Concluding Comment: (Public). New Zealand's national television station allowed open and unopposed discussion, by the founder of the world's largest professional organization calling for a new 9/11 investigation, of the claim that nano-thermite was used in a controlled demolition of the World Trade Center. The coincidence that this program and the CBC's "The Unofficial Story" both aired on the same day may prove to be a turning point in media coverage of the 9/11 issue.
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...Just had to point out something.

Firstly: while TVNZ is New Zealand's "national broadcaster", there has been significant debate over its adherence to its charter. The ten minute segment on Close-Up was a puff piece-it was not serious journalism or even an attempt at it:

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/tvnz_story_skin/111535?format=html

Richard Gage was also on Kim Hill's show: which I have posted about before. A link to that interview is here:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/20091121

In terms of relevance to the study: I would say that the Kim Hill interview would be much more significant than a ten minute human interest story: I wonder why the author of the study didn't use the Kim Hill interview as her case study?
 
BAnquetbear.

That would be because the author of this "study" is a truther who is using psuedo scientific claptrap that may sound good to the uninformed truther masses.

AFter all Red Ibis fell for it.

That is why. Very simple.
 
TruthersLie said:
BAnquetbear.

That would be because the author of this "study" is a truther who is using psuedo scientific claptrap that may sound good to the uninformed truther masses.

AFter all Red Ibis fell for it.

That is why. Very simple.
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Fell for what? An analysis and summary of instances where international media are treating 9/11 alternative theories more objectively?

Here's another:
http://www.stratfordgazette.com/stratford/article/86274
 
RedIbis said:
Fell for what? An analysis and summary of instances where international media are treating 9/11 alternative theories more objectively?

Here's another:
http://www.stratfordgazette.com/stratford/article/86274
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Oh, the Stratford Gazette! Founded in 1883 by Johnny Newspaperseed, the Stratford Gazette is Stratford's number one newspaper - in fact, after merging with The Stratford Times, Stratford Post, Stratford Globe, Stratford Herald, Stratford Jewish News and Hot Sex Weekly, it is now the only major newspaper in Stratford. At one time it was free, but the price has risen over a period of time and is currently sold at 50¢.

/cool story bro
 
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