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Merged Skeptics vs. Knowers/Believers

Accusing people who offer possible explanations of dismissing your account out of hand. I believe I've already mentioned this, so did you not read it or did you not understand it?
 
KOTA: You say that what you saw resembled stars. Stars, basically, appear as lights in the sky. How can you be sure that the lights you saw were material objects of any considerable size at all?
 
King of the Americas said:
I'll concede that.

I am COMPLETELY unaware of any craft we have that can meld together with another similar craft to create a 4-fold larger version...

So, what would that be, exactly?

Could you post a video?
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That -you- are "completely unaware" is your shortcoming.
The numerous problems with visual perception, including orientation and motion of an object, the potential for atmospheric phenomena, wishful thinking, and a lack of state-of-the-art knowledge as to what is possible doesn't lead to what you have convinced yourself you experienced.
Your reasoning such as it is is little more sophisticated than:
"Since today isn't July the 4th (it isn't), it must be Christmas (which it isn't also)". i.e. "I believe it, therefore it's true", which is the bedrock of "true belief", to hell with reality.
 
Just very, very briefly.

"light in night sky" is not "ideal conditions" for identifying anything. Your bias appears to be from knowing about aircraft. That you have dismissed, out of hand, all of the obvious natural explanations for "light in night sky" is odd. Pasted from the UFO thread for your consideration here:

carlitos said:
As a teenager, a buddy and I were driving and we saw a "huge fire over in the next subdivision." We were curious, so we drove that way. There was no fire, it appeared to be just a bit further. And again, and again, we drove from the next town to the next town. We ended up driving 30 miles to an oil refinery, where we saw the gas burnoff flame. It was nothing extraordinary, just an oil refinery having a normal night.

We thought it was a house fire a mile away, but it was an oil refinery 30 miles away. And we were on the ground in a car, not floating through the air in a plane.

But anyway, this phenomenon is obvious to most.
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If we hadn't made that drive, today I would still be telling everyone about the "great house fire of '85," and posters here might be checking news reports or mundane explanations and trying to help me think. See a connection?

ETA - Or potentially, if we only drove a little way and gave up "because the light kept moving away from us" and concluded that this was "no human-piloted craft." For instance.
 
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King of the Americas said:
I saw 'something'. It didn't look familiar, at all.

So, I started looking for potential 'known' objects that it could have been.

To date, I have found and have been offered exactly ZERO matches.

At present, I conclude that it was something other than a human piloted craft.

When I am presented with a depiction of a known entity, that MATCHES what I saw, I concede.

Where did I go wrong?
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You went wrong by being so dead set on pursuing your excitement about seeing aliens that you are steadfastly willfully ignorant. And that is the foundation of your argument from ignorance that I, and several other people, have been telling you about.
 
I Ratant said:
"Since today isn't July the 4th (it isn't), it must be Christmas (which it isn't also)". i.e. "I believe it, therefore it's true", which is the bedrock of "true belief", to hell with reality.
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Indeed. "To hell with reality," describes King of the Americas's argument to a T.
 
Spektator said:
KOTA: You say that what you saw resembled stars. Stars, basically, appear as lights in the sky. How can you be sure that the lights you saw were material objects of any considerable size at all?
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They were star-like in appearance in that they weren't 'solid', but rather sparkled as though they were light...

They weren't stars, however, because they didn't look like 'distant' points of light.

Admittedly I can't say that they WERE 'material' objects. They certainly didn't perform or behave like any material I know of.
 
King of the Americas said:
They were star-like in appearance in that they weren't 'solid', but rather sparkled as though they were light...

They weren't stars, however, because they didn't look like 'distant' points of light.

Admittedly I can't say that they WERE 'material' objects. They certainly didn't perform or behave like any material I know of.
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Gods. They were gods.
 
RoboTimbo said:
Misperception of something mundane. Unless you're simply going to do as I said earlier when you whined "strawman"?

Or are you saying that it could have been something you haven't eliminated?
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I have REPEATEDLY said, "I have seen, heard of, and been presented with NOTHING that resembles, what we saw."

If you have something PLEASE feel free to post pictures, video, or whatever...!?
 
King of the Americas said:
I have REPEATEDLY said, "I have seen, heard of, and been presented with NOTHING that resembles, what we saw."

If you have something PLEASE feel free to post pictures, video, or whatever...!?
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I was thinking of calling that the "Rramjet defense". Would you prefer it be named in your honor? No matter what anybody suggests, you will say, "Nope, not that".
 
RoboTimbo said:
So you'd be willing to accept a plausible mundane explanation?
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No. He would not. Don't you get it? He saw aliens. He wants it to be aliens. And other than getting pissy about people calling his aliens "aliens" and his arguments from ignorance "ignorance", he will not have it any other way.
 
I am not surprised to see the OP ignoring my last post. Dude, you like feeling special with your IMPORTANT INFOMATION. We all get it.
 
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