The pot calling the kettle black...

That's right. When Israel mistreats the Palestinians, we never hear the end of it, it's thread after thread with 20 pages of inflamed discussion, but when Arabs mistreat Palestinians, it's "what's new?"

Double standards much?

You got nothing more to say than "what's new"?

like I said, when Muslims abuse fellow Muslims, its not big news. However, if Christians or Jews abuse Muslims, its big news.

is it a double-standard? sorta.

should I care? not really. such double-standards are a fact of life. deal with it.
 
I gave you four. And why should it be rocking in the Arab world? The way, say, Holland (mis)treats asylum seekers isn't frontpage news either all over Europe.

I dunno, maybe because the Palestinian "cause" is the rallying cry in the Arab world? It's the one thing that inflames passions over there, the mere mention of Palestinians can get a war started there, as long as it's Israel the culprit of course. When the injustice is caused by fellow Muslims or Arabs, not alot of anger and crying is being heard, no protests or terror threats against the Jordian regime.

It's really just about them not accepting Israel being there, it was never about the Palestinians, otherwise they'd be as upset with this Jordanian situation.
 
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like I said, when Muslims abuse fellow Muslims, its not big news. However, if Christians or Jews abuse Muslims, its big news.

is it a double-standard? sorta.

Glad you're honest about it. Why is it less of a problem when Muslims mistreat fellow Muslims? Why is there a double standard?

I mean, injustice is injustice, right?

should I care? not really. such double-standards are a fact of life. deal with it.
Wow, such honesty again. Patently ridiculous honesty.

You sound almost as if you're proud that you have a double standard.
 
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no. im just realistic

What's realistic about it? I know there is a double-standard, I want to know why, and why you accept it?

and pragmatic.
How does there being a double standard solve anything?

Injustice is still being done. You're perfectly willing to give it a pass because it's Muslims vs Muslims? Why is that? Muslims have a special free card to oppress when other Muslims are concerned?
 
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I dunno, maybe because the Palestinian "cause" is the rallying cry in the Arab world? It's the one thing that inflames passions over there, the mere mention of Palestinians can get a war started there, as long as it's Israel the culprit of course. When the injustice is caused by fellow Muslims or Arabs, not alot of anger and crying is being heard, no protests or terror threats against the Jordian regime.
Hyperbole much? The last time Arab states started a war against Israel was in 1973.

It's really just about them not accepting Israel being there, it was never about the Palestinians, otherwise they'd be as upset with this Jordanian situation.
Nonsense. You don't know yet how upset they are, the report is just out. Yes, it's about a couple of thousand Palestinians, but over a period of six years. That's a couple of people per day. Compare it to the daily deaths in traffic accidents. They don't hit the news either, but when an airliner crashes and takes 100 or 200 lives, it hits the news for days to come - though the number of deaths from airline accidents is much less than that from traffic accidents.
 
Hyperbole much? The last time Arab states started a war against Israel was in 1973.

And what about the multiple intifadas, the fatwas against the West and Israel? Where have you been the last 60 years?

Nonsense. You don't know yet how upset they are, the report is just out.
I won't be holding my breath.

Yes, it's about a couple of thousand Palestinians, but over a period of six years.
And?

That's a couple of people per day. Compare it to the daily deaths in traffic accidents. They don't hit the news either, but when an airliner crashes and takes 100 or 200 lives, it hits the news for days to come - though the number of deaths from airline accidents is much less than that from traffic accidents.

Car accidents? WTF?

This is a policy, a racist policy of a state directed at an entire population. It's discriminatory, isn't it? Aren't you against discrimination and injustice? Or do you reserve your indignation only when Israel is concerned?
 
I think this thread is less about Jordan than it is about people who habitually attack Israel's every percieved failing as a calumny that demonstrates the unworthiness of Israel to exist.
The OP has just, twice, emphatically stressed this thread is about Jordan. So it's not about Israel.
 
It's the same thing with what happened in Sri Lanka and Gaza last year. In both cases a state went into a brief but violent military campaign against a terrorist group resulting in the death of innocent civilians. All the attention was on Israel and Gaza, there was an overwhelming international uproar of indignation and many dozens of threads were created about it that went on for days on end, but nobody mentioned Sri Lanka, even though the Sri Lanka government went on to kill 20 times more civilians in their operation.

I guess it was deemed 'OK', since it was brown people against other brown people.
 
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This is a policy, a racist policy of a state directed at an entire population. It's discriminatory, isn't it? Aren't you against discrimination and injustice?

After WW2, the Benes government in Czechoslovakia decided to deport most citizens of German descent, to Germany. Many Germans had happily supported the Nazi invasion and annexation of the Sudetenland and the rest of Czechoslovakia, but not all Sudeten Germans were guilty of such crimes against the state. Nevertheless, most were sent packing to der Fatherland.

you got a problem with that too?
 
You haven't answered my questions Parky, what's realistic and pragmatic about accepting an obvious double-standard?
 
You haven't answered my questions Parky, what's realistic and pragmatic about accepting an obvious double-standard?

i was more acknowledging it....rather than accepting it.

i never said it was a "good thing". i simply see it for what it truly is.

Kuwait's exile of its Palestinian population had NOTHING to do with race, religion, or ethnicity. It was all....about politics.

While on the contrary, Israel's discriminatory laws against the Palestinians and Arab Israelis has everything to do with religion and ethnicity.
 
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And what's pragmatic about it? What does it solve anything to accept such a thing?
 
And what's pragmatic about it? What does it solve anything to accept such a thing?

um...calm down their cowboy. I ain't looking to solve anything. JREF is for education and entertainment, not to save the world.
 
I wonder if a bloke could make a living, posing as a racist or anti-jew, and getting hired to attend liberal parties, wherein the passionate liberals could feign a decent rebuking, preferably in front of their girlfriend, to increase their odds of reproduction?

(hope this isn't off-topic. I'm always thinking of novel ways to make a buck in today's competitive economic landscape.)
 
I wonder if a bloke could make a living, posing as a racist or anti-jew, and getting hired to attend liberal parties, wherein the passionate liberals could feign a decent rebuking, preferably in front of their girlfriend, to increase their odds of reproduction?

(hope this isn't off-topic. I'm always thinking of novel ways to make a buck in today's competitive economic landscape.)

Meh, playing villain to the suitor's hero has been a gambit for so long it's probably a cliche.
 

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