CIT Fraud Revealed

[dtugg]

I wonder if the CITiots are fully aware of the extent of their fraud, or if they have somehow deluded themselves into not seeing it.

 

[tsig]

I wonder if the CITiots are fully aware of the extent of their fraud, or if they have somehow deluded themselves into not seeing it.

I'm sure they think they're doing it for a Higher Cause. Kinda like the liars for Jesus.

 

[Hokulele]

I'm sure they think they're doing it for a Higher Cause.

$$

 

[dtugg]

$$

I would agree that money may be a possible motive except for the fact that there is no way that they have made any money off of this ridiculous charade. With the plane tickets alone, I would bet that they have lost a ton of money. And then factor in the likely thousands of hours they have spent on this crap. There is no way that they have sold enough DVDs to cover all of this. And also, Craig apparently has a good job paying over 100k/year. I just can't see money being a motive in this. I think that they are either literally insane, or it is about inflating their egos, or some combination thereof.

 

[Hokulele]

Well, I think it all goes back to the complete inability to admit making mistakes that has been seen repeatedly when dealing with 9/11 CTists. I am guessing that at the beginning, the Dyspeptic Duo saw the money being made by people like Avery and thought they could replicate that success. Even though they are most likely losing money over this whole nonsense, they simply cannot admit that it was a mistake from the get-go.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

If you guys think this stuff is crazy you shoulda seen Craig and Aldo's conspiracy theory before they came up with this silly concoction. They used to claim that the plane parts were planted and pointed to a white passenger van in the pictures as the van used to transport all of the plane parts at the scene.

I couldn't make this stuff up.

 

[BCR]

I'm sure they think they're doing it for a Higher Cause. Kinda like the liars for Jesus.

They are NWO operatives tasked with discrediting the 911 Truth Movement by making it look like a bunch of crazy morons. They have been very successful in their assignment and I was told at the last NWO meeting that they might be promoted to run the Memphis NWO operation.

 

[dtugg]

Well, I think it all goes back to the complete inability to admit making mistakes that has been seen repeatedly when dealing with 9/11 CTists. I am guessing that at the beginning, the Dyspeptic Duo saw the money being made by people like Avery and thought they could replicate that success. Even though they are most likely losing money over this whole nonsense, they simply cannot admit that it was a mistake from the get-go.

Good point. This is also possible.

 

[dtugg]

They are NWO operatives tasked with discrediting the 911 Truth Movement by making it look like a bunch of crazy morons. They have been very successful in their assignment and I was told at the last NWO meeting that they might be promoted to run the Memphis NWO operation.

I think that this is about a billion times more likely than the NoC/Pentagon flyover idea. Although that doesn't really say much.

PS: Are you John Farmer/911files? If so, I didn't notice that you were back until now. Good to see you again.

 

[BCR]

Are you John Farmer/911files? If so, I didn't notice that you were back until now. Good to see you again.

Did I blow my cover?

 

[mudlark]

Interesting!
Although this is where he draws the path of the plane it would put the plane more than twice its wingspan north of the VDOT tower which the next day Paik speculates may have been clipped by the plane.

Again?? Jesus...

¨Pickering: Did you actually SEE it hit the tower or you THOUGHT it hit the tower...Did you see the repair guys working on it?

Ed Paik: I DIDN´T SEE IT HIT THE TOWER, I SAW THE GUYS WORKING AT IT THE NEXT MORNING¨

Got that?

We note that if Paik was in the parking lot where the CiT interviewed him he cannot see the roof of the Annex but he can see the VDOT tower.

At best this suggests that Paik's drawing is incorrect. It is unlikely that he would have wondered if the plane had clipped the tower if he never saw the plane anywhere close top the tower and especially if it were more than a wingspan north. However given that he cannot see the Annex from where he was he could easily be incorrect in his estimation of where the Annex is.

Now if the port wing actually was within a few feet of the Sheraton (as Alauf's literal statement suggests) AND the center of the fuselage within 75 feet of the VDOT tower (which would certainly allow Paik's next day consideration to be a valid speculation) it would mean that the plane was essentially following Columbia Pike, along a path that would take it south of the Citgo.

Umm..let´s see how ´wrong´ you guys are claiming his description actually was..

Here´s Farmer´s ´JREF accepted´ flightpath

Here is the actual height Farmer claims the plane to be as it passed Ed Paik´s shop (450ft) The Sheraton roof in view.

Just to put this into perspective..the Annex is 70ft tall. The tallest spire of the Air Force Memorial is 270ft tall.
Deb Analuf wouldn´t have even SEEN the plane until it had reached point -3
allegedly descending from almost 250ft ABOVE the Sheraton 460+ft to her and Ed Paik´s right.

Here is where Farmer´s path actually places the plane (-4)

Distance from Paik´s pov to data point -4 = 460 ft

You can cry ´witness subjectivity´ all day but as with the other NOC witnesses, to claim that they are SO spectacularly off is ridiculous.
How does BCR´s above assertions correspond in ANY way whatsoever with what Paik described?

´..and then at the time feeling like IT ALMOST HIT MY ROOF´

Don´t pat yourself on the back just yet Jaydeehess.

 

[mudlark]

,and possibly the Annex? 55 feet is only 5 stories

The Annex is 23m/70ft.

 

[Thunder]

you know, if truthers spent as much time working for a new investigation, as they spend debating with debunkers on JREF, there would have been a new investigation by now.

***** and giggles. that's all this is about. just ***** and giggles.

 

[Gamolon]

Why do 5 of the 13 witnesses place the plane's flightpath over the annex and everyone else puts the flightpath north of the annex?

Do the 8 eyewitness flightpaths to the north of the annex now invalidate the 5 that say it went over the annex? Who is telling the truth here?

Mudlark?

 

[Thunder]

Who is telling the truth here?

Mudlark?

i guess you didn't see one of yesterday's stunning admissions.

They do not need truth...all they need is doubt.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Why do 5 of the 13 witnesses place the plane's flightpath over the annex and everyone else puts the flightpath north of the annex?

That's not true.

It doesn't help btw if you start treating every single testimony as if it were the absolutely exact truth. They are all in range of expectable exactness for witnesses, the closer the plane was to them, the better.

The corroboration is the point which renders the blue line, where nobody saw the plane flying, moot.

 

[Horace Wheeljack]

Mudlark,

Edward Paik says in the CIT interview that the wings were over the road (Columbia Pike), why do you think CIT choose to ignore this and make a reconstruction of the plane completely over the Annex?

Terry Morin states in his interview with CIT that the plane was not completely over the annex but over the edge, why do you think CIT choose to ignore this and make a reconstruction of the plane completely over the annex?

It is clear that CIT have misrepresented these witness accounts in an attempt to support a north of citgo claim. This is very dishonest wouldn't you agree?

 

[Scott Sommers]

you know, if truthers spent as much time working for a new investigation, as they spend debating with debunkers on JREF, there would have been a new investigation by now.

***** and giggles. that's all this is about. just ***** and giggles.

This is a good point. CIT Truthers talk on JREF. AE911 Truthers talk to each other, but in fact, almost all of them don't do anything except sign their name somewhere. WAC Truthers talk to each other on Facebook. No one seems in the slightest interested in getting themselves noticed. I keep saying this to the Truther freaks we have here, start picketing TV stations or firehouses. No one cares about what you do right now. Do something that really gets attention. Either that or shut up.

 

[Childlike Empress]

@Horace: It doesn't matter, even if it were true. Look at the blue line, the official data. Nowhere north of Columbia Pike.

That's what you should be worried about.

 

[Horace Wheeljack]

CE,

I understand that Paik and Morin's recollections are not exactly on the official path but CIT have fraudulently represented their accounts to support a north of citgo claim. This is thoroughly dishonest.

If they were honest researchers they would have included Paik and Morin as south of citgo witnesses but note that they were placing the plane north of the official path.