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Dawn Vignola Account

mudlark said:
And the NOC, Navy Annex and right-bank witnesses? Oh wait, they all ¨misremembered¨.
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Yes mudlark, the ALL 'misremembered'. EVERY eyewitness has subjective recall of events. That is why it is so unreliable and must be supported by objective evidence of some form. That is the reason so many rape and murder convictions were overturned when DNA evidence became reliable. You have to take a body of eyewitness accounts in their totality, which in this case ALL indicate a large plane traveling from west to east and slamming into the west facade of the Pentagon. Quarrellings over one guy saw it bank right, and another saw it bank left, another saw an American Airlines, and another a United is nothing more than an exercise in foolishness.
 
BCR said:
I know your world is falling apart, but please pay attention.
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No, YOUR reputation on telling porkies is splattered throughout these threads.
Pay attention to what? You´ve made unbased claims and not backed any of them up.
You want me to kick back and listen to your opinion and ´stories´?

My statement is what she claims, and you are claiming she is lying. Suddenly I am lying because I am reporting what she claims. They did grant you an interview, but declined to have it recorded.

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I have asked you exactly where this ´interview´ can be found. Back your claims up.
Just to cut the crap here...what exactly are you claiming was distorted?
I personally have never seen any alleged interview with her. OR seen her quoted in any way, shape or form by CIT.
Which investigative piece distressed her? What EXACTLY was said? Does she appear in any presentations? Do they use her to support the NOC path?
Enough of the innuendo. As I said, put up or...
 
BCR said:
Yes mudlark, the ALL 'misremembered'. EVERY eyewitness has subjective recall of events. That is why it is so unreliable and must be supported by objective evidence of some form. That is the reason so many rape and murder convictions were overturned when DNA evidence became reliable. You have to take a body of eyewitness accounts in their totality, which in this case ALL indicate a large plane traveling from west to east and slamming into the west facade of the Pentagon. Quarrellings over one guy saw it bank right, and another saw it bank left, another saw an American Airlines, and another a United is nothing more than an exercise in foolishness.
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There ya go leftysergeant.
They were ALL wrong.

I´ve been through this before. I hope you have interviewed the ANC and Citgo witnesses. Sean Boger? What did they say when you told tem they were ALL wrong?
But before that...back those previous claims up. It should be very easy to do.
 
mudlark said:
No, YOUR reputation on telling porkies is splattered throughout these threads.
Pay attention to what? You´ve made unbased claims and not backed any of them up.
You want me to kick back and listen to your opinion and ´stories´?



I have asked you exactly where this ´interview´ can be found. Back your claims up.
Just to cut the crap here...what exactly are you claiming was distorted?
I personally have never seen any alleged interview with her. OR seen her quoted in any way, shape or form by CIT.
Which investigative piece distressed her? What EXACTLY was said? Does she appear in any presentations? Do they use her to support the NOC path?
Enough of the innuendo. As I said, put up or...
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So you are categorically claiming that Dawn did not invite Craig and Aldo into her apartment and talk to them at length? How did they get the video footage from inside her apartment?

Just for reference:

Interview - meeting for asking questions: a meeting during which somebody is asked questions, e.g. by a prospective employer, a journalist, or a researcher
 
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BCR said:
He also conducted an number of other interviews, but I'm waiting on him to complete his summaries of them before saying much more
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´Summaries´? Is that another way of saying ´twist´ or ´censor´?
Again, DID Larson tell any of these witnesses that he described some as ´liars´, ´cointel´?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3974889&postcount=1

Robert Turcios, the Citgo employee. Watch his testimony in The PentaCon, Smoking Crack Gun version [19:00 –30:00]. Is it really so clear that he’s being honest here?

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A bad sign: The witness’ behavior is dodgy and unsettled. He fidgets, hands in pockets, the sunglasses of course. In places he’s clearly trying to keep a straight face. Did anyone else catch him starting to bust up at 22:50, right before mentioning the pull-up?

If he’s not lying, that means he honestly believes all the tripe he’s spewing, and must have been thinking of a joke when he nearly laughed.

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I know he's not a "twoofer," but there's something wrong with Robert.
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The thread starts and ends in this tirade of calling into question the integrity of the NOC witnesses.
Pot calling the kettle black Farmer?
 
BCR said:
So you are categorically claiming that Dawn did not invite Craig and Aldo into her apartment and talk to them at length? How did they get the video footage from inside her apartment?

Just for reference:

Interview - meeting for asking questions: a meeting during which somebody is asked questions, e.g. by a prospective employer, a journalist, or a researcher
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Stop avoiding the issue. Links. Quotes. Exactly WHAT was distorted?
I´ll leave and you can think up an answer. If it contains none of the above, you´ve been called out...again.
kthxbye
 
mudlark said:
Stop avoiding the issue. Links. Quotes. Exactly WHAT was distorted?
I´ll leave and you can think up an answer. If it contains none of the above, you´ve been called out...again.
kthxbye
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Called out? He is burying your weak support for the delusions of CIT under piles of real evidence and logical analysis. You lost when you believed the moronic lies from CIT.

it may take you 8 years to craw out of the CIT pit of ignorance with all this evidence you ignore blocking your way
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Say Farmer, are you still a truther or do you now support the official story, after CIT were so mean to you the last time?
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What did Aldo cut in front of him the last time they went to the Buffet together? Damn that is mean, because the last time Aldo did that, he pulled up a chair right to the buffet.

ALDO The Buffet Slayer.

Hey, how is the National Security Alert coming? heh heh heh.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Say Farmer, are you still a truther or do you now support the official story, after CIT were so mean to you the last time?
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Off topic yet a full presentation of all your evidence to support CIT.

Farmer is the only real truther, using real investigation techniques to find the truth. CIT is not mean, they are delusional.

if math is required to be a real truther, Farmer is the only real truther
 
Childlike Empress said:
Well, IIRC our friend Farmer retired after CIT posted a recorded phone call with him or something. He said something to the effect that CIT are worse than the perpetrators of the crime. Real meanies!
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Do I look retired?
 
Childlike Empress said:
Well, IIRC our friend Farmer retired after CIT posted a recorded phone call with him or something. He said something to the effect that CIT are worse than the perpetrators of the crime. Real meanies!
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This is again your best yet presentation of evidence to support the delusions of CIT. You never let anything get in your way of presenting the ample evidence you have to support your support of CIT.

With the zero evidence you have, you can post all the weak attacks you want and still present your evidence at the same time. Outstanding, super, perfect, don't try to understand your plight, just keep on trying to best billsmith, she is beating you at posting delusional garbage on 911 but your continued support of CIT is forcing bill to reach deep into the pit of stupid to keep ahead of your failed support.

Does testimony of seeing an impact of 77 into the Pentagon stop CIT? No they ignored Boger except where they make up junk to support them and they will ignore Dawn if they can't twist her testimony.
 
Pardalis said:
Show me your beliefs and I'll tell you who you are.

No-planers are mentally ill...
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Show me your faith without works, and I will show you my faith through my works.

Oh, sorry, this wasn't Sunday bible study?
 
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