Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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Macgyver1968 said:
The total energy release in a 7.0 magnitude quake is 134.4 PJ. How does a 3.6 megawatt installation generate that much energy? Even if it was "multi-billion" watt...it would still be shy by a couple orders of magnitude.
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Why use math when she only uses delusional posts of stupid. Math does not work in the world of 911 truth where beam weapons, nukes, and anything else can be used to look exactly like a gravity collapse.

It is funny she has no clue how stupid her posts are. I have not seen this much negative learning; only a few neoNAZIs can beat bill at posting stupid and getting better at it.
 
bill smith said:
If I was alone then maybe I would be more circumspect. But there are millions of people running right up into the level of heads of State who believe ths stuff too. Ask Mr. Takanawa of japan for instance. See what the Malaysian guy thjinks.etc.
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So? How do you know Takanawa and 'the Malaysian guy' aren't idiots or crazy? Do you even know what they are basing their 'theory' on? I suspect you just believe, don't you?

And where is your skepticism now? For example, what is your response when a debunker says. "well, a lot of scientists and engineers believe the 'official story' is the best theory when all the evidence is taken into account, so it must be true"?

Exactly. You have an obvious double standard when it comes to some things. Conspiracy theories are one of them.
 
bill smith said:
So we all know that there was a massive Hurricane off the coast of New York on 9/11. That's no secret right ?

Many people think tht this Hurricane was created by the American Government who use a system based in Alaska and Greenland to generate billions of watts of power to fire into the ionosphere. This releases energy that they can control and use to create extreme weather effects such as Hurricanes and even Earthquakes.This system is called HAARP
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Mmmmmm, sinister and cool to boot! But why didn't they just crash planes into buildings and call it a day?

Hokulele said:
Because bill is a troll.

Duh. ;)
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bill smith said:
You say that like it was a bad thing Hokulele.
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Is trolling really the best use of an adult's time? I mean I guess you must be a troll, because (I hope) nobody can be as moronic as you pretend to be and still know how to work a keyboard. What do you hope to accomplish though? Are you trying to get people to believe your nonsense (and if so to what end?) or do you simply enjoy the meager attention that comes from annoying a bunch of strangers on the internet?

Isn't life rich (and short) enough without wasting so much time making stuff up and bothering people to no useful purpose?
 
twinstead said:
So? How do you know Takanawa and 'the Malaysian guy' aren't idiots or crazy? Do you even know what they are basing their 'theory' on? I suspect you just believe, don't you?

And where is your skepticism now? For example, what is your response when a debunker says. "well, a lot of scientists and engineers believe the 'official story' is the best theory when all the evidence is taken into account, so it must be true"?

Exactly. You have an obvious double standard when it comes to some things. Conspiracy theories are one of them.
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When I watch the recognised scientists of NIST lying in their teeth about WTC7 amongst other things I don't need to ask any more questions about who the traitors (and their friends) are.

There is almost nothing I can do about it but so be it. I will do what little I can.
 
bill smith said:
When I watch the recognised scientists of NIST lying in their teeth about WTC7 amongst other things I don't need to ask any more questions about who the traitors (and their friends) are.

There is almost nothing I can do about it but so be it. I will do what little I can.
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Can you point out one of these "lies"? Preferable without a youtube video.
 
JohnG said:
Mmmmmm, sinister and cool to boot! But why didn't they just crash planes into buildings and call it a day?
Can you even define 'trolling' and say why it is a bad thing ?







Is trolling really the best use of an adult's time? I mean I guess you must be a troll, because (I hope) nobody can be as moronic as you pretend to be and still know how to work a keyboard. What do you hope to accomplish though? Are you trying to get people to believe your nonsense (and if so to what end?) or do you simply enjoy the meager attention that comes from annoying a bunch of strangers on the internet?

Isn't life rich (and short) enough without wasting so much time making stuff up and bothering people to no useful purpose?
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Can you even define 'trolling' and say why it is a bad thing ?
 
DGM said:
Can you point out one of these "lies"? Preferable without a youtube video.
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Uh-Uh DGM. You don't get off that easily. If you persist I am perfectly willing to lay David Chandler's three-part destruction of NIST's final report on WTC7 before you. In all it's highly-effective youtube glory.
 
JohnG said:
I mean I guess you must be a troll, because (I hope) nobody can be as moronic as you pretend to be and still know how to work a keyboard. What do you hope to accomplish though? Are you trying to get people to believe your nonsense (and if so to what end?) or do you simply enjoy the meager attention that comes from annoying a bunch of strangers on the internet?

Isn't life rich (and short) enough without wasting so much time making stuff up and bothering people to no useful purpose?
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If you really believe he's a troll, there's an easy solution - stop responding. That's all you have to do.
 
bill smith said:
Uh-Uh DGM. You don't get off that easily. If you persist I am perfectly willing to lay David Chandler's three-part destruction of NIST's final report on WTC7 before you. In all it's highly-effective youtube glory.
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But I've seen it, It contains no lies by NIST. Only Chandlers unproven accusations of them.

Please don't start with the "NIST was forced to admit free fall" lie.
 
DGM said:
But I've seen it, It contains no lies by NIST. Only Chandlers unproven accusations of them.

Please don't start with the "NIST was forced to admit free fall" lie.
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Shall I post the three parts and let the readers see what they think ?
 
bill smith said:
When I watch the recognised scientists of NIST lying in their teeth about WTC7 amongst other things I don't need to ask any more questions about who the traitors (and their friends) are.

There is almost nothing I can do about it but so be it. I will do what little I can.
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Another big lie except the part where you claims you do little. Good job posting bigger lies and dumber ideas. You are perfect 911 truth follower posting nothing but lies and delusions.

Your anti-intellectual stand on 911 is perfect as the terrorists you apologize for laugh at your stupid and non-productive posts.
 
So no answer to my question as to why the conspirators chose the Doctor Evil plan over simply crashing the planes into the buildings? That's alright. You are wise to avoid discussing it as not a single Truther, Troll or some combination of the two has ever been able to provide a sensible explanation.

bill smith said:
Can you even define 'trolling' and say why it is a bad thing ?
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I'm afraid I have no idea where you're going with this. Maybe it would save time if you simply stated what you are on about?

deep said:
If you really believe he's a troll, there's an easy solution - stop responding. That's all you have to do.
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Countless posters here regularly accuse bill of being a troll and yet you choose to single me out when to the best of my recollection, this is the first time I've ever made the allegation? Up until recently I was reasonably sure he was in fact as stupid as he pretends but his comments in this very thread show that he admits to deliberate trolling.

Asking someone one time why they are a troll isn't remotely the same thing as regularly being baited into arguing with one.
 
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JohnG said:
Mmmmmm, sinister and cool to boot! But why didn't they just crash planes into buildings and call it a day?
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Well they had to take down the buildings or America would not have gone to war. The hijackers would only have killed 1,000 or so, rather than 3,000 and that might not have been enough. And Larry Silverstein was promised a new building at WTC7.

But more importantly someone would have discovered the thermite, that was stashed at other floors in fire proof containers, just in case the planes struck at a different level.

There are truthful reasons to explain all the CD evidence.
 
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Well they had to take down the buildings or America would not have gone to war. The hijackers would only have killed 1,000 or so, rather than 3,000 and that might not have been enough. And Larry Silverstein was promised a new building at WTC7.

But more importantly someone would have discovered the thermite, that was stashed at other floors in fire proof containers, just in case the planes struck at a different level.

There are truthful reasons to explain all the CD evidence.
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Please tell me you are kidding.
 
bill smith said:
You may have missed a post I made earlier with videos explaining how the American government may make Earthquakes. As I understand it the capacity of the ground stations has been increased to move into the multi-BILLION watt range. The videos are in the attached hyperlink.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5545499&postcount=2106 hyperlink
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Problem is:

"A magnitude 8 earthquake releases as much energy as detonating 6 million tons of TNT. ."

http://www.geo.mtu.edu/UPSeis/intensity.html

And:

"TNT equivalent is a method of quantifying the energy released in explosions. The ton (or tonne) of TNT is a unit of energy equal to 4.184 gigajoules, which is approximately the amount of energy released in the detonation of one ton of TNT. ."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiloton

So we have (6 x 106)x(4.1x 109)=2.4x1016 J vs 109watts


The orders of magnitude are way out of whack
 
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