What skills do you have?

sadhatter said:
Bardamu:

That is a dodge. If this was a conspiracy , then they wouldn't want people to go around talking about it now would they? I mean that is kinda the point of a conspiracy, no?

It just seems the nwo is the worst villian in the history of time. They had a couple of good ideas i guess, but then they can't take out a nutbar in an open public space? They can't block him from broadcasting? They can't set him up for murder? And more to the point, they can't do this to any of the little truthers?

So is what your saying though, that in this big evil world, you take no precautions against the big evil organization? Sounds like you don't fear them, plain and simple. And when they are doing things like building death camps in America that dosn't seem really all that smart. Your willing to admit they have power over the entire world, but that you don't have to worry. Simply put it dosn't make sense.
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Can you prove any of this or is it just waffle?
 
sadhatter said:
Quick question to our truther friends.

The government ( or nwo, or the jews, or whomever) is powerful enough to manipulate events on a world scale, to control entire television networks, to off so many people at a whim, both famous and non famous.

What special skills do you posses that make you immune to the evil attention of this organization?

I am just curious as to how someone can consistently post on internet forums, not change their day to day lives ( in most cases) , and in the case of more famous truthers hold rallies without any real security and still remain unharmed or unsilenced by the big evil organization.
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sadhatter said:
Bardamu:

That is a dodge. If this was a conspiracy , then they wouldn't want people to go around talking about it now would they? I mean that is kinda the point of a conspiracy, no?

It just seems the nwo is the worst villian in the history of time. They had a couple of good ideas i guess, but then they can't take out a nutbar in an open public space? They can't block him from broadcasting? They can't set him up for murder? And more to the point, they can't do this to any of the little truthers?

So is what your saying though, that in this big evil world, you take no precautions against the big evil organization? Sounds like you don't fear them, plain and simple. And when they are doing things like building death camps in America that dosn't seem really all that smart. Your willing to admit they have power over the entire world, but that you don't have to worry. Simply put it dosn't make sense.
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bardamu said:
Can you prove any of this or is it just waffle?
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So you think that when truthers say the Evil Conspiracy manipulates world events and prevents The Truth from being discussed in the mainstream media, they are waffling?

Interesting.
 
orphia nay said:
So you think that when truthers say the Evil Conspiracy manipulates world events and prevents The Truth from being discussed in the mainstream media, they are waffling?

Interesting.
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I'd like to see some evidence to back up the claim that if the nwo carried out 9/11, truthers wouldn't be able to walk around or access the internet.
 
bardamu said:
I'd like to see some evidence to back up the claim that if the nwo carried out 9/11, truthers wouldn't be able to walk around or access the internet.
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I love it. Why is it everytime you post it is an argument from incredulity or ignorance?

Now it does take a suppostion, but it is a fair one. If the NWO/illuminati/jews/ whomever YOU choose to claim is behind 9/11, then they have the power to plan, enact and cover up the murder of 3,000 people. That includes shutting up the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the NTSB, etc. That includes a massive conspiracy in the thousands. Yet they wouldn't do a single thing to people who are digging to uncover the "truth." Yet again, these folks must be a mixture of Rainman and the A team.

Yet again FAIL.
 
TruthersLie said:
I love it. Why is it everytime you post it is an argument from incredulity or ignorance?

Now it does take a suppostion, but it is a fair one. If the NWO/illuminati/jews/ whomever YOU choose to claim is behind 9/11, then they have the power to plan, enact and cover up the murder of 3,000 people. That includes shutting up the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the NTSB, etc. That includes a massive conspiracy in the thousands. Yet they wouldn't do a single thing to people who are digging to uncover the "truth." Yet again, these folks must be a mixture of Rainman and the A team.

Yet again FAIL.
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Just as I thought - no evidence.
 
Ambrosia said:
My special skills mostly involve chocolate and sugar.
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There was a priest in a Gabriel Garcia-Marquez novel who could make himself levitate, but only a little tiny bit, with some kind of spell that involved cacao. If you are going to be paranormal, be low-key about it. That's what I always say.
 
Quick question to our truther friends.

The government ( or nwo, or the jews, or whomever) is powerful enough to manipulate events on a world scale, to control entire television networks, to off so many people at a whim, both famous and non famous.

What special skills do you posses that make you immune to the evil attention of this organization?

I am just curious as to how someone can consistently post on internet forums, not change their day to day lives ( in most cases) , and in the case of more famous truthers hold rallies without any real security and still remain unharmed or unsilenced by the big evil organization.
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I watched a docuementary on free speech today. Covered were the Pentagon Papers, the Nazi march Illinois, and the protestors at the RNC in 2006. In each case there is clear gov't interference in free speech.

Not a word about 911 truth and indeed has there ever been a case of gov't interference in anything the various non-believers in the commonly accepted narritive of the events of Sept 11/01have done or professed ? (some of these people chaff at being called members of 911 truth movement, thus my long winded descriptor)
 
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orphia nay said:
So you think that when truthers say the Evil Conspiracy manipulates world events and prevents The Truth from being discussed in the mainstream media, they are waffling?

Interesting.
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bardamu said:
I'd like to see some evidence to back up the claim that if the nwo carried out 9/11, truthers wouldn't be able to walk around or access the internet.
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Yes, we're aware of your dodging skills, but thanks for proving our point.
 
bardamu said:
Just as I thought - no evidence.
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No, no, no. Bad twoofie.

You see, since you are making the claims, it is up to you to provide the evidence.

Apparently we can add BURDEN OF PROOF to the list of things you don't understand.

Thanks for playing, we do have some lovely parting gifts.
 
TruthersLie said:
You see, since you are making the claims, it is up to you to provide the evidence.
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Are you no longer claiming that because truthers can walk around freely, 9/11 can't have been an inside job? Glad to see you've withdrawn that unprovable assertion. Now maybe we can focus on the falsifiable arguments.
 
bardamu said:
Are you no longer claiming that because truthers can walk around freely, 9/11 can't have been an inside job? Glad to see you've withdrawn that unprovable assertion. Now maybe we can focus on the falsifiable arguments.
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Well, when you finally bring one of those, we can indeed focus on something.
 
bardamu said:
Are you no longer claiming that because truthers can walk around freely, 9/11 can't have been an inside job? Glad to see you've withdrawn that unprovable assertion. Now maybe we can focus on the falsifiable arguments.
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It is not a simple claim that because you can walk out your door 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy. It is pointing out the internal inconsistencies of the 9/11 truth mythos.

The large evil group you mention has the ability to manipulate the fbi, cia, 90 per cent plus of engineers and people in relevant fields, yet it has no ability to stop, or even hinder any of the people that are constantly posting online the "truth" , or for that matter take out, or otherwise manipulate the main members of the "truth" movement.

This only makes sense if the truthers have access to methods that us regular Joes wouldn't have. But from everything i have heard, you don't, not a single truther has been able to come in here and say what these special techniques are.

What you are saying, in a nutshell is that they have the resources to shut anyone up.....except for you and your heros ( by this i am refering to Jones et al. ). This does not seem like a legitimate threat, this seems like an entity made up by someone to galvanize a group of people into believing a certain way. I mean if i were to draw a comparison i would say the NWO is much like the christian satan. Big , evil, but as long as you believe what the head of the good guys is saying, harmless to you.

And as to your statement of proof that you wouldn't be able to do your 9/11 thing ( and by you in this case i am referring to the truth movement in general.) , i hear the united states compared to a dictatorship. Now, lets take what would be a similar situation ( death camps being built, a government that kills off people without punishment, etc) Nazi germany. How many jews do you think could have walked around openly shouting " hitler sucks" in the middle of the street? Or as one poster said, go to north korea, and start protesting, if you do this i am sure you will see the difference between a dictatorship and free speech, rather quickly, and possibly at the end of a billy club.
 
bardamu said:
Are you no longer claiming that because truthers can walk around freely, 9/11 can't have been an inside job? Glad to see you've withdrawn that unprovable assertion. Now maybe we can focus on the falsifiable arguments.
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falsifiable? I love it; someone who believes pure hogwash, lies and delusions brings up falsifiable; Why? Does it proves they have no evidence or proof of their ideas on 911 which are only dirt dumb delusions? Or are they lacking evidence to make a rational claim so they need the smoke screen of falsifiable arguments which they fail to make.

911 truth has claimed fantastic scenarios where some secret organization of massive proportions, all knowing, screwed up and allowed only special untrained morons the ability to see 911 was an inside job pulled off by the super secret government group, yet the all knowing super government agency fails to silence these few fringe nut cases, and instead they let them make their super arguments of delusions to keep rational people from discovering what only morons can figure out?

We don't need falsifiable arguments to debunk evidence free 911 truth which uses hearsay, failed opinions, and lies to form their delusions.
 
Actually, to falsify my arguement , a truther could provide me an example of another dictatorship that killed without punishment, controlled the media, set up death camps within its countries walls, could manipulate any country with reletive ease, yet did nothing to silence rebels or leaders of rebel movements.

Or they could provide me an example of the super sweet Mel-Gibson-From-Conspiracy-Theory ways of making sure big brother can't find and stop them.

Or if a truther wants to insist that training and special skills are not required, then point to an example of any large scale dictatorship overthrown without Combat training, militant activities, or taking any other actions that would change the day to day life of the rebels.

But i won't be holding my breath.
 
bardamu said:
Are you no longer claiming that because truthers can walk around freely, 9/11 can't have been an inside job? Glad to see you've withdrawn that unprovable assertion. Now maybe we can focus on the falsifiable arguments.
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I never made the claim.

I said it is a valid claim to which truthers have no answer. And yet again you dont' have one.

The supposition is that da government, da jews, da nwo, da illuminati, (whomever you chose) is capable of creating fake tv footage, nanothermite, set bombs unseen, have the FBI, NTSB, the NSA, the CIA and all the other alpahbet soup agencies cover it up, then they would have the power and influence to shut up anyone who would be close to uncovering their dastardly plot.

It wouldn't be hard. Not as hard as murdering 3,000 people on live television for money or political power.

so then following that supposition out to its logical conclusion it would mean that
1. either no truthers are even close to what brought down the towers (MOTHRA did it) that "they" don't have to worry about it.

or the only real other choice
2. there was no super sekret massive conspiracy from the start.

Either way I don't really give a rats ass.... I just want you all to produce ANY evidence... got any?
 
Wow i thought once i would have given examples of how the premise i stated in my op could be falsified , i would be getting owned left right and center by some hardcore truth.

I guess they are just on holiday at the moment, i'll keep waiting.
 
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