What skills do you have?

TruthersLie said:
I never made the claim.

I said it is a valid claim to which truthers have no answer. And yet again you dont' have one.

The supposition is that da government, da jews, da nwo, da illuminati, (whomever you chose) is capable of creating fake tv footage, nanothermite, set bombs unseen, have the FBI, NTSB, the NSA, the CIA and all the other alpahbet soup agencies cover it up, then they would have the power and influence to shut up anyone who would be close to uncovering their dastardly plot.

It wouldn't be hard. Not as hard as murdering 3,000 people on live television for money or political power.

so then following that supposition out to its logical conclusion it would mean that
1. either no truthers are even close to what brought down the towers (MOTHRA did it) that "they" don't have to worry about it.

or the only real other choice
2. there was no super sekret massive conspiracy from the start.

Either way I don't really give a rats ass.... I just want you all to produce ANY evidence... got any?
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Hmmm, third choice is an out for the TM.

3. The super secret phantom government just does not care about them.
 
bardamu said:
Are you no longer claiming that because truthers can walk around freely, 9/11 can't have been an inside job?
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It's because 9/11 truthers are walking around freely that we know we aren't in a tyrannical dictatorship (like the countries ruled by 9/11 truthers Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, where critics of the regime are routinely imprisoned and/or shot in the street).

The fact that we aren't in a tyrannical dictatorship drastically diminishes, if not eliminates outright, the probability that 9/11 was an inside job.
 
twinstead said:
Well, when you finally bring one of those, we can indeed focus on something.
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My two main arguments are falsifiable.

1. Three buildings were demolished.
2. CGI planes were shown on TV.

(Falsifiable in theory, that is.)


sadhatter said:
What you are saying, in a nutshell is that they have the resources to shut anyone up.....except for you and your heros ( by this i am refering to Jones et al. )
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, for example, that random fires can't cause the simultaneous failure of 57 massive steel columns.


sadhatter said:
Actually, to falsify my arguement , a truther could provide me an example of another dictatorship that killed without punishment, controlled the media, set up death camps within its countries walls, could manipulate any country with reletive ease, yet did nothing to silence rebels or leaders of rebel movements.

Or they could provide me an example of the super sweet Mel-Gibson-From-Conspiracy-Theory ways of making sure big brother can't find and stop them.

Or if a truther wants to insist that training and special skills are not required, then point to an example of any large scale dictatorship overthrown without Combat training, militant activities, or taking any other actions that would change the day to day life of the rebels.

But i won't be holding my breath.
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Please make your mind up. Are we talking about dictatorships or the nwo? You're asking me to compare apples and oranges.

On the other hand, you could falsify the truth movement's "smoking gun" argument by naming one tall building anywhere in the world that completely collapsed primarily due to fire.

(Hint: save yourself some legwork and read NIST's final report on WTC 7.)


Sword_Of_Truth said:
It's because 9/11 truthers are walking around freely that we know we aren't in a tyrannical dictatorship (like the countries ruled by 9/11 truthers Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, where critics of the regime are routinely imprisoned and/or shot in the street).
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Chavez gets over 60% of the vote at elections monitored by international observers. If he's a dictator, where does that leave Western leaders who are put into power on well under half the vote?
 
bardamu said:
My two main arguments are falsifiable.

1. Three buildings were demolished.
2. CGI planes were shown on TV.

(Falsifiable in theory, that is.)




That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, for example, that random fires can't cause the simultaneous failure of 57 massive steel columns.




Please make your mind up. Are we talking about dictatorships or the nwo? You're asking me to compare apples and oranges.

On the other hand, you could falsify the truth movement's "smoking gun" argument by naming one tall building anywhere in the world that completely collapsed primarily due to fire.

(Hint: save yourself some legwork and read NIST's final report on WTC 7.)




Chavez gets over 60% of the vote at elections monitored by international observers. If he's a dictator, where does that leave Western leaders who are put into power on well under half the vote?
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First i would like to remind you, this is not a thread about the towers themselves, or how they fell, or anything of that nature, please, if you want to talk about these things there are many other threads out there dedicated to this. Please stop attempting to derail the thread.

In response to your comment regarding dictatorships, any description of the nwo given is akin to a dictatorship, with the notable difference of being much more powerful on a world scale. Anything the nazi's could or had done, i have heard claims of greater from the NWO. I call dodge on this commentary.

The rest of your comments are simple dodges of the question, and attempts to change the subject. If i were to venture a reason as to why your doing this, i would say that you realize that if you were to answer the question in a straight forward manner, you know you would come off as self contradictory.

I mean for all the dodges and attempts at derailment, you really could just say, " i don't do anything different than a normal person in regards to my personal security.". That has been the extent of any information you have given that is relevent to this particular topic.
 
Bradamu:

I will honestly say you hooked me with this one, but this will be my only reply to something that is very off topic. I just couldn't stand to let this comment go uncommented on.

"Chavez gets over 60% of the vote at elections monitored by international observers. If he's a dictator, where does that leave Western leaders who are put into power on well under half the vote?"

In a system with more than 2 parties, a 50 per cent majority is not required. Nor is it somehow evil, it is like saying i didn't win a race fairly because i didn't lap someone.

This is another example of a random fact being tossed out and used as proof ( wihtout a source). Btw, if politics are controlled by a big evil organization, then why are you using voting percentages no doubt gained by using government information? Seems like another point for internal inconsistancy.

( now that we both have our ot's out of the way, i am sure we will both remain on topic.)
 
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