Danny Jowenko - Manipulated by 9/11 Deniers

RedIbis said:
I think the word you overlooked in my post was 'reasonable'.
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I think you haven't read the relevant sections of the NIST report where they go over why they didn't look for explosives.

That is REASONABLE.

What is REASONABLE is to see that 2 freaking huge jets struck 2 of the tallest buildings in the world.

What is REASONABLE is to see that those buildings were literally towering infernos.

What is REASONABLE is to see that they were probably going to collapse because they couldn't fight the fires.

What is REASONABLE is to see that wtc7 was hit with THOUSANDS OF TONS of debris from one of the towers.

What is REASONABLE is to see that wtc7 burned for 8 hours

What is REASONABLE is to see that for most of that time it was unfought

What is REASONABLE is to understand that there are people with lots more specific education than you have

What is REASONABLE is to understand that many of those same folks have lots more relevant experience than you do

What is REASONABLE is to then look at their conclusions and see if there is any hew and cry from others in the field. (so please provide any peer reviewed engineering journal from ANYWHERE in the world. That is very REASONABLE.)

That is REASONABLE.

You bitch and whine about how they didn't test for explosives, when they explain WHY they didn't test for explosives.

Now that means in order to be REASONABLE you need to provide proof that there are explosives (or other means of cutting the steel columns) which are silent.

Now that we have covered what is REASONABLE, lets see your proof that you have ANY type of device which is silent, which would have brought down WTC7 that is not based on a simple idea that steel weakens in fire.

Provide your REASONABLE proof or STFU.
 
RedIbis said:
NIST admitted that it didn't look for an alternative cause because it would have been a waste of time since evidence of it wasn't there to begin with.

Do you catch that carousel of logic?
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RedIbis said:
You mean "any explosive" like RDX? Who proposed that as an alternative other than NIST?
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RedIbis said:
I think the word you overlooked in my post was 'reasonable'.
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You never stated "reasonable" to me in any of the posts that I asked you about. Not once.

Reasonable wasn't part of it.

You are claiming NIST didn't do their job. You are claiming that something brought down the towers.

GREAT. ****ING PROVE IT!!!!

If you think there is a way to cut the steel columns that NIST missed please provide an example. Either silent explosives, thermite or duck farts. Provide an example. If you try the nanothermite crap, then show me nanothermite being used to cut steel horizontally or obliquely. It should be a piece of ****ing cake.

so again
PLEASE, I am BEGGING you provide me with another "explosive" which can cut steel beams that is silent.

I'll wait for it. ANY explosive capable of cutting those beams. I'd love to know what it is.

Really. That is what you have? That is it?

super duper stealth explosives? Really?

It would help if you PROPOSED ANYTHING besides for just JAQing off. PROPOSE something.
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That seems very reasonable. Now find some and provide some, or admit that you are full of crap and STFU.
 
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Anyone know if the part of the interview were Jowenko says wtc1 and 2 were absolutely not CD is still available? The original clip is gone, none of the truther-posted clips contain it.
 
Panoply_Prefect said:
Anyone know if the part of the interview were Jowenko says wtc1 and 2 were absolutely not CD is still available? The original clip is gone, none of the truther-posted clips contain it.
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Have you watched these HERE? Its billed as an "Extended version" and states it's raw and unedited. Perhaps this covers what you want? I haven't got time to look through myself sorry.

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Anyone know if the part of the interview were Jowenko says wtc1 and 2 were absolutely not CD is still available? The original clip is gone, none of the truther-posted clips contain it.
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CompusMentus said:
Have you watched these HERE? Its billed as an "Extended version" and states it's raw and unedited. Perhaps this covers what you want? I haven't got time to look through myself sorry.

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Nope, the video "HERE" links to is all-WTC7.

Jowenko's video about WTC1 and 2 is still missing.
 
Panoply_Prefect said:
Anyone know if the part of the interview were Jowenko says wtc1 and 2 were absolutely not CD is still available? The original clip is gone, none of the truther-posted clips contain it.
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This is the original show from Dutch television, unfortunately only Dutch language and no English text.

http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=3273161

In the same show they made 3 simulated attempts to hit the Pentagon with an inexperienced person in a commercial jet simulator and succeeded all 3 times.
 
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The first one has the part where the reporter is asking about the towers and Danny J states that wtc7 was CD as opposed to the towers. he is then asked a question about it, and the look he gives the reporter is great...
 
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thecritta said:
woops to late video is all gone
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whoops... I posted the three videos where danny J says that the towers WERE NOT CD. Look RIGHT ABOVE your bs claim.

whoops.. can you do 5 minutes of real research
 
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Danny Jowenko re-confirmed his opinion that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition in 2007. He says "absolutely" it was CD, and could not have been done by fire.
In YouTube, enter the code: QajDxF9uEf4 or "Phone Call With Danny Jowenko" to hear it from the source.
 
cicorp said:
Danny Jowenko re-confirmed his opinion that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition in 2007. He says "absolutely" it was CD, and could not have been done by fire.
In YouTube, enter the code: QajDxF9uEf4 or "Phone Call With Danny Jowenko" to hear it from the source.
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Debunked years ago. Check the date, the Star Date is 2010, this is not 2005!

But if you insist he is the expert, then he said WTC1 and WTC2 are not CD. Is this a 50 percent debunking thing? Did you just wake up after 8 years of silence? 8 years and no evidence. When did Jowenko investigate the WTC7 damage in 2001?
 
cicorp said:
danny jowenko re-confirmed his opinion that wtc 7 was brought down by controlled demolition in 2007. He says "absolutely" it was cd, and could not have been done by fire.
In youtube, enter the code: Qajdxf9uef4 or "phone call with danny jowenko" to hear it from the source.
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2007?
 
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cicorp said:
Danny Jowenko re-confirmed his opinion that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition in 2007. He says "absolutely" it was CD, and could not have been done by fire.
In YouTube, enter the code: QajDxF9uEf4 or "Phone Call With Danny Jowenko" to hear it from the source.
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Oh look a new twoof.

GREAT.

Please go back and watch the earlier videos.

Those are great because they have some information missing from his "re-confirmed" opinion.

Things like
1. I haven't seen the plans, so I'm guessing here
2. I'm just guessing here
3. The towers were NOT CD.

Now he does say he stands by his claim that it could have been CD for wtc7. so what?

He has also NOT read the final NIST report (which came out AFTER this phone call) and he had not read the NIST report. He is NOT an engineer.

But hey, I'll take his word for it. I love taking witness claims. I'll take EVERYTHING HE SAYS. WILL YOU?
 
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I was commenting on the video upload date, which was in February 2007.

IOW, old news. The video hasn't even had a comment in months, mobs aren't marching down the street demanding The Truth... the world collectively yawned at Jowenko's proclamation.
 
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cicorp said:
Danny Jowenko re-confirmed his opinion that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition in 2007. He says "absolutely" it was CD, and could not have been done by fire.
In YouTube, enter the code: QajDxF9uEf4 or "Phone Call With Danny Jowenko" to hear it from the source.
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Since no evidence exists in support of Mr. Jowenko's opinion, we have to conclude that Mr. Jowenko is wrong.
 
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